Could Joe Flacco's comeback actually herald a revolution in how NFL players approach their careers? That's just one burning question Scott Nyberg and I, Shocker Allstar, along with Jameson Wall, get into as we tear into Week 17's matchups from our IGNTR bunker. But we're not just about plays and pauses; our gridiron gabfest takes a wild detour into the Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2024. You won't want to miss the heated debate over which legends like Jared Allen and Tori Holt might clinch football immortality. And, of course, no show is complete without our notoriously off-kilter game picks.
We don't shy away from the turmoil rippling through the league, either. The seriousness of recent domestic incidents involving players like Roderick Teamer and Von Miller has us taking a sobering pause. It's a tough discussion, but it's crucial, and we bring our full, unfiltered perspectives to the table.
As we barrel towards the postseason, we dissect the playoff picture with all the fervor of fans whose teams are still in the hunt. From the Niners to the Lions, Eagles, and maybe-even-the-Buc’s, we dissect the chances, the drama, and the potential upsets in store. And with weekend games like Green Bay at Minnesota on the horizon, we're making predictions that might just shock you. So, whether you're a die-hard for the stats or just here for the smack talk, pull up a chair and let's get into the nitty-gritty of another NFL showdown!
Ideas, rage, praise, dirt? Send it to igntrnetwork@gmail.com
Could Joe Flacco's comeback actually herald a revolution in how NFL players approach their careers? That's just one burning question Scott Nyberg and I, Shocker Allstar, along with Jameson Wall, get into as we tear into Week 17's matchups from our IGNTR bunker. But we're not just about plays and pauses; our gridiron gabfest takes a wild detour into the Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2024. You won't want to miss the heated debate over which legends like Jared Allen and Tori Holt might clinch football immortality. And, of course, no show is complete without our notoriously off-kilter game picks.
We don't shy away from the turmoil rippling through the league, either. The seriousness of recent domestic incidents involving players like Roderick Teamer and Von Miller has us taking a sobering pause. It's a tough discussion, but it's crucial, and we bring our full, unfiltered perspectives to the table.
As we barrel towards the postseason, we dissect the playoff picture with all the fervor of fans whose teams are still in the hunt. From the Niners to the Lions, Eagles, and maybe-even-the-Buc’s, we dissect the chances, the drama, and the potential upsets in store. And with weekend games like Green Bay at Minnesota on the horizon, we're making predictions that might just shock you. So, whether you're a die-hard for the stats or just here for the smack talk, pull up a chair and let's get into the nitty-gritty of another NFL showdown!
Ideas, rage, praise, dirt? Send it to igntrnetwork@gmail.com
Live from the igniter bunker deep deep under cold spring Minnesota. It's the NFL Pickham Show, with your host, the two-time boatman of the year and 2023 cold spring lions golf scramble champion Shucker Allstar, joined in studio by the big-wing Jameson wall oh my god and remotely from their smoke stain shed. Interim producer. Interim producer Scott Nyberg. Nfl analysis and inside information from across the league. Meant to edify and entertain. It's the igniter NFL Pickham show and it starts now. Are you ready for some? We're ready for some football baby.
Speaker 2:I tell you what I'm ready for football to be done, man you're almost there everyone week 17 of the igniter NFL Pickham show coming down the home stretch now, halfway down now, I'm your host shocker, all star, joined by Jameson wall and, of course, a man that needs no introduction, scott Nyberg but you were just gonna leave it there with your introduction don't think. I didn't think about it that would have been great how's everybody doing tonight? Are we happy we good son was shining all day.
Speaker 3:So it was a beautiful day, yeah, on seasonable weather.
Speaker 2:I saw people taking walks there's there. I mean there wasn't. No. It was cold, 35 40 degrees today, but like the sun was out, it was very pleasant. I could get used to this.
Speaker 4:I like it yeah, december in Minnesota, it's wonderful glory and is a good thing, yeah yeah, al Gore, be damned, I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't think what he's talking about is in our best interests. I hear the moose are gonna suffer. That's the thing that cracks me up about this state like we're all feeling good that we can go outside, not be depressed, get a little vitamin D, and all I hear about is how horrible the moose are going to have it come spring, like.
Speaker 4:I hope you're happy. Minnesota shut up people. You ever seen a fucking moose?
Speaker 3:take it easy you don't want to see yours. They got Canada they're assholes, moose.
Speaker 4:Don't, don't mess with them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's far away from here like I'm only concerned what's happening within about 10 miles of me. Am I okay? How conservative what happens in St Cloud?
Speaker 2:none of my business we don't want to think about besides the roads, boy, oh boy, boy, am I glad I got the off road vehicle. I literally saw when I went to get my haircut recently. A woman was out in the parking lot. One cut hair there at the joint and she's like I hit a bump, a pothole, and they come in and the thing is just driving all weird. I look down there, the whole damned axle snapped. I never seen that before in my life, like a two year old Corolla. And they're always like drive smaller cars, move out here. You need a fucking four by four just to go to Costco yeah, try the try the Camry's on those potholes once in a while and we saw what happened broke slipped it's old differential fucked it.
Speaker 2:Shit up. Don't hit the potholes. You know almost impossible. St Cloud might have the worst roads I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 4:You're right, and I've been to some third and fourth world countries this is without all the snow and ice already bitten being dug up by the snow removal crew right, you are Scotty anyway.
Speaker 2:Week 17 happy to have everybody with us. 17 weeks, it's a lot of weeks, but we are happy to deliver a high quality show to you week over week.
Speaker 4:Joined by my two good friends in studio, we hope to edify and entertain you for the next 60 minutes or so and without further ado, scotty, take her away you wanted to talk about last week, obviously, since we're doing a little bit late this week, we took a couple of days off from a normal recording routine because we all had a lovely Christmas and figured we'd give ourselves a little bit longer. So we're recording this after Thursday night football for the first time in a while. But we all took Cleveland, as you might have expected, and they, they did a real good job, didn't they? Your boy, flakko david, you called it. You've been talking about it flakko's killing it yeah, flakko ain't wacko.
Speaker 2:When he, when he got signed, what is he? 38? 39 so he had been out of the league for a season or two.
Speaker 2:I believe he was on a team last year but I mean not playing accurately, was not starting correct. So no wear and tear, I mean practice. He's thrown with the, probably this. You know, the second team, maybe the first team reps to warm him up a little bit, but not not game worn. So there was a. When grunkoski left for a season and then came back again with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, he commented how that one year and I think we've talked about this before really benefited him because it gave his body a full year and then some really to heal you never heal all the way.
Speaker 2:Other right yeah and so I'm I'm wondering. To a certain extent, flakko was always a good quarterback. He wasn't great, but he's looked really good. If part of it is, he just took some time and was able to heal his body a little bit and get things back in alignment. I think I made this point last year that at some point, if you're one of these players, you may want to start negotiating in your contract. You're taking an entire fucking year off and you might talk about this every season, I think you might get some port.
Speaker 2:Instead of an average of six, seven seasons, you might get nine, ten seasons out of some of these guys if you let them space it out a little bit at certain positions. But this whole, there might be something to it. You know, when you talk about how you equate an NFL career to the sheer brutality like I think equates out to like over 4550 car accidents that you basically are in the NFL on average, the way your body takes trauma, it certainly seems like a good idea to give these guys a year off and and and I don't know. I just think that it's something that might be worth. If I was an NFL player, knowing what I know, especially things around CTE and the way that the the trauma in the body accumulates and then it rears its head in the present. But you really see it later in life 4550 you start having a.
Speaker 2:You know, jerome Bettis is the perfect example of this. The guy can't take a flight of stairs without collapsing. His legs are in such bad shape. So I think it's interesting that flakko is playing as good as he is, but again it I think that there was something to him just kind of walking away for a bit and getting his body back to where it needed to be, because he looks crisp, he's making good decisions and the body looks good, but that's another thing too.
Speaker 4:How long can that last at any players, any, at any age. It takes it's a long season. So you wonder if mid season breaks isn't maybe the way Cleveland is yeah, because he's doing something.
Speaker 3:Until what? Four weeks ago, yeah?
Speaker 4:and he's been lightening it up. When we I sent you guys that meme where he's already he's about to crest Johnny Manzell's Cleveland Browns Browns passing record, you know it doesn't take much and Manzell had a, had a good joke or he had a good spirit about it he said, well, some records are made, meant to be broken, because obviously his like there's shadowed and marred and controversy and bad play. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I still assume he's gonna retain the cocaine consumption for record. Cocaine consumption for a rookie. That one will not be broken, yeah, only in Miami's party boy. Yeah, well, congratulations, flak old Browns, helmed by us to fans key. A guy that I was really and honestly I this was not just me in hindsight really wanted him to be the next coach of the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2:I thought they should not have let him go. I thought that was a huge mistake, and clearly it was, and we again have been left with the sloppy seconds of what's it? Sean McDermott, who's a coach out in LA, an unimpressive Kevin O'Connell, who is playing musical chairs with quarterbacks? I think that this is what the sixth or seventh quarterback change now that we've made. Yeah. I think we're. I think so because it was like cousins to Dobbs, dobbs no, cousins to Hertz no, was his name Jalen.
Speaker 4:Hall Jaren Hall.
Speaker 2:Jaren Hall, jalen Jaren Hall, and then to Dobbs, then back to Mullins, mullins and then Dobbs again and now back to Hall, or so maybe that's five or six changes okay, a number of changes, so any embarrassing is. What I'm saying is we can't seem to find the solution which you know. Again, not to say that I want to, you know, be right and rub everyone's nose in it, but I've said for weeks, just let Jiren Hall play, because you what you got right.
Speaker 2:If he's the guy that's going to take you there and he's uh, you know, from a young, bring him young, young, young. If, if he's got the pedigree which it looks like he does, and he's a talented guy, give him the space and the time to develop, Cause I'm certainly not interested in giving $45 million to cousins and I'm certainly not interested in signing dobs and I'm certainly not interested in having Nick the pick, be anything more than a backup quarterback.
Speaker 4:That's his job backup, excellent backup quarterback will be his job, and that's fine.
Speaker 2:You know, if somebody goes down he'll get, maybe get you the first down, maybe he can lead you back in the fourth quarter or at least hold off, make enough complete passes and be smart with the ball oxymoron than it might be with Nick Mullins. Um, to least you know, keep the, keep the clock and play, roll it out and get that victory. But I do not want him starting, none of these guys. Kirk Cousins statistically very good, puts up a lot of production but historically doesn't win anything. Uh, mullins and dobs are they are who we think they are. Denny green Um, I want to see what Jaren Hall is, so I want that opportunity. So anyway, congratulations to Joe Flaccoon a good dude, um, and the Browns are going to roll right into the playoffs. I think they're dangerous. I think they're a team that people do not want to play.
Speaker 4:First time in a long fucking time and congratulations to them.
Speaker 2:And also congratulations to the Detroit Lions for taking the NFC North. I think it's been three decades since that happened 93. Yeah, uh, one my my. If the Detroit Lions I think reasonably have a chance to win the Super Bowl I don't see there's anybody that that's so good that couldn't be beaten by them. Uh, if they do win, I honest to God think they need to put Barry Sanders on that float and let him be in the Super Bowl parade. He deserves it. Yes, why not yeah?
Speaker 4:He carried that fucking franchise on his back. I give him Megatron, yeah, oh that'd be fun, but certainly.
Speaker 2:Barry, they did nothing for that man. I mean they're not going to be able to get it. I mean they gave him no resources, they ran his ass into the ground and he basically kept. He gave that entire city a reason to root for that team for about seven, eight seasons and then he even he couldn't take it anymore.
Speaker 4:So round him down so hard. He said it's just yeah.
Speaker 2:So he should get a fucking ring. He should be on on the Super Bowl team photo. He should be there. He should be celebrating Fuck. They should put him in uniform. Just let him fucking take the knee at the end as a Detroit Lions. They could be on the squad.
Speaker 4:So They'll, they'll. He's already in the Hall of Fame. Do you want to?
Speaker 2:see, well, yeah, he's one of the best running backs of all time.
Speaker 4:Yeah, did you see who the nominees were for this year?
Speaker 2:All I know is my boy Jared Allen's in it and I hope he gets in.
Speaker 4:Lots of good names in there.
Speaker 2:Well, I was.
Speaker 4:Class of 24, 2024 revealed finalists Eric Allen, defensive back for the Eagles, and so on. Jared Allen, of course, defensive end. Well, willie Anderson, offensive tackle. Jari Evans, offensive lineman. Dwight Frenney, defensive end. Antonio Gates, tight end. Rodney Harrison, defensive back. Devon Hester, whatever position you need. Tori Holt, wide receiver Jesus Christ, this fucking thing is jumping around. Andre Johnson, wide receiver. Julius Peppers, defensive end. Fred Taylor, running back Nice work, been journeyman running back. Just crush it Like Robert Smith, reggie, reggie Wayne, wide receiver. Patrick Willis, linebacker. And Darren Woodson, safety. That's your Okay.
Speaker 2:So nominees on that list who for sure should be walking right in.
Speaker 3:Tori.
Speaker 2:Holt, tori Holt, probably Tori Holt. Yeah, maybe I think that's it.
Speaker 3:I mean he's the most explosive punter turn in history. Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 2:I think Jared Allen should be in there, and Allen yeah.
Speaker 2:And I would also perhaps hear some arguments for Woodson who are at, and maybe even Rodney Harrison Rodney Harrison, because he was pretty shut down and a lot of Super Bowls. Again, I think that we're softening the criteria in which people are getting into the hall, so I would like them to be a bit more selective, but the fact is is that Jared Allen was one of the most dominant DNs I've ever seen. He was so good. He may have a sack record for the longest time too. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And he just played fun. You know, right, fun guy to watch. Yeah, yeah, he's a good guy for the NFL. He's a great guy for the NFL.
Speaker 2:And, let's be honest, probably one of the more entertaining speeches that would be given, because the mullet would be flying. The crowd would be into it, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he ain't getting rid of that thing.
Speaker 2:You give me a trademarked it. His middle name is Yeehaw. So that's, I think, that at least two or three of those and I'm. I think I could be moved on on, uh, heston.
Speaker 3:Hester, hester, I think I could be I think I could be persuaded.
Speaker 2:I just don't know.
Speaker 4:Special teams guys almost never go the first way yeah.
Speaker 2:But he was so good that he he transcended special teams. I mean, he changed the way.
Speaker 3:Pundit was done. Yeah, he was so good. I mean he was so good, I mean he was electricity at the ball Right Exactly.
Speaker 2:Unless you're the Vikings is like fuck it, let's kick it to him and maybe that's the and maybe that's the argument that he fundamentally changed the way that the game was played, because he was just so good at what he did. So Fair enough. Three, four guys, I would say, are probably I mean Tori Holt, would just lit it up for a long time.
Speaker 4:Andre Johnson, I'm not convinced.
Speaker 2:Freedney never blew my skirt up. He's a good player, yeah.
Speaker 4:Dwight Freeney for the Colts defensive end. He was. He was had a good career there.
Speaker 2:He's had a good career, but I don't think he like JJ Watts first ballot hall of fame.
Speaker 3:He shouldn't have a good career and be hall of fame worthy?
Speaker 4:Right. I agree with that. Right Right, julius Peppers.
Speaker 2:I know Again very good player. It's like Terrell Suggs, no Super good, but JJ Watt in year one he's got to go. Reggie Wayne, I don't know.
Speaker 4:Again, these are. That's 13 years with Peyton Manning.
Speaker 2:Right. But if there's even any question, that's where you need to have the discussion right. You need to really talk it through. But I paid Manning, is he shit? Yeah, but you can't make that argument either. I mean, you play with the circumstances that you've got. The fact is, you know he fucking tore it up.
Speaker 2:What I'm saying to you is that does, when you say Reggie Wayne, and then you think about the Jerry Rice's and the Randy Moss's and the guys who are in, does he belong in that? That's how I look at it. Like, if you look at the great DNs, jared Allen belongs in that group. He would be just as dominant as any of them, regardless of era. He was so athletic and he was so good and every now and then he would catch balls out of the backfield and he would be a receiver and he'd catch touchdowns. So, yeah, I don't know, I think he, yeah, I think he transcended his position. So anyway, I think it's a grid list. I wish them all the best, but I would probably as much as I like Rodney Harris. Even he's on the fence for me.
Speaker 3:Antonio Gates real listen, yeah, he's pretty good, but how many?
Speaker 2:oh yeah sorry Gates should be in. He was one of the statistically one of the top three or four tight ends.
Speaker 3:And when, tony Gonzalez, I think we're the top eight for a while. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:They, they too, kind of became the new prototypical tight end design.
Speaker 2:Is it set up right now? Did the both Grunkowski and Brady walk away the same season?
Speaker 3:I don't think so.
Speaker 2:Shit.
Speaker 3:I think Grunk went out a year earlier.
Speaker 2:I was really hoping that the two of them would go in together. They'll find a way, don't worry, cause they're both first ball at all, famous too, obviously clearly. Yeah, anyway, good list, scotty. Appreciate that, you fucker.
Speaker 4:You're welcome. Speaking of which, do you want to hear who won last week's picks?
Speaker 2:I have some trepidation here. I think I did okay, but I don't know.
Speaker 3:David only cares. He got the Baltimore pick right.
Speaker 2:That's what I'll be honest. I've been dining out on it for a week.
Speaker 4:First, he asked on Thursday if he had picked LA, which he didn't. I thought everyone did, but I guess David was going anti the whole way. As it turned out, for many of the games you went off book on purpose to try to gain ground and it well did the opposite, as it often has. Has that effect. Not the worst outing. You've had seven total for the week for David and you did call the Baltimore game so you did get one back on us with that one. Jameson I tied, Jameson I tied with nine a piece, with the score being totaled at 52 for Monday night. That goes to me with the lower choice of 55 versus Jameson 61. So no points gained for me, total for you, but I won the week yeah.
Speaker 3:It's been a while since I won a week. This is what it feels like to be David normally.
Speaker 2:Overall scores.
Speaker 4:Thank you so much, david's at one 32. This might be our last episode.
Speaker 3:I don't know if I can take anymore.
Speaker 2:How close am I?
Speaker 4:You're still a week away. What if I? What?
Speaker 2:what if I'm being serious? What if you guys didn't pick this week and I just picked and we'll see if it gets me? If I get like eight right, I'm still six fucking behind.
Speaker 3:You might not make up either way, I have a new fond respect for what you guys do.
Speaker 2:This is not easy. I mean, I won the last two weeks and I'm still 14 fucking behind. What do you know? What do you think about that?
Speaker 4:It doesn't seem right, you've done more correct picking earlier.
Speaker 3:Yeah, how many do we got right then 132.
Speaker 4:132 for David, 149 for you, 148 for me and 150 for the spread. So you, jameson, and 16 behind, jameson and I in the spread are hanging pretty tight with more of the experts.
Speaker 2:Let's, let's put this if I picked out of my mind, I would still be two or three behind Scott, if you guys didn't pick it all this week. So you're saying there's a chance there is if we didn't pick. Next.
Speaker 4:Well, I suppose you can add another point for everyone on the overall total, since we all picked Cleveland. Yeah, you watched the game.
Speaker 3:No, no, that's not part of it. A little bit.
Speaker 4:Pretty entertaining. First half 51 points.
Speaker 2:I think I've watched maybe five games all year.
Speaker 3:I watched, I watched right.
Speaker 2:I watched a big time. I watched the red zone replays.
Speaker 3:That's all you need. Yeah, get the highlights. Yeah.
Speaker 4:I love watching red zone. If if nothing else is going on, red zone is on, it's perfect.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, you know, it's just so many other things I'd rather be doing. I like to get the house picked up on the weekend. I like to smoke a brisket.
Speaker 3:I mean.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, some of that, some of that domestic.
Speaker 2:Excellence. Yeah, well, unlike the Vikings, that issues me. It's something that I can emerge victorious in and I have some control over. So that's where I'm at. What are we doing now, but where we going?
Speaker 4:Well, you're dumb. Your domestics and my domestics are different than some of the NFL players. I Forgot to report, or rather I didn't see, some domestic incidents recently with some of our Criminal minds. Yeah, you can play me in the.
Speaker 2:Asperger. We're going to federal palmy in the who slapped who?
Speaker 4:who did it? Well, nothing that well. We have some of that. We'll get to that. That's the best. So Roderick teamer, safety for Las Vegas, in November 13th had a misdemeanor us a DUI Speeding in Las Vegas. Nothing too crazy, but he did break the law. But the real juice comes from our higher or more Marquis name, guy Vaughn Miller, linebacker for Buffalo. At the end of November on the 30th, domestic violence Accused of assaulting the pregnant mother of his children near Dallas. Pulling out her hair and prosing her neck was the accusation. No more on that until Future date.
Speaker 2:Hopefully they won't was there a plea. Is there a police report online that we can peruse possibly?
Speaker 4:possibly, but Most more the same from some of these guys to get in a bit of altercation with their babies mama, some shit gets reported and they go back to work.
Speaker 2:WFAA out of Dallas has obtained the a 911 call NFL star Vaughn Miller. His girlfriend placed on Wednesday, reached by tax. She downplayed the incident to WFAA. No one assaulted anyone. Dallas Taxes star NFL linebacker Vaughn Miller's accused of assaulting his pregnant girlfriend at their high-rise apartment in Dallas this week, according to multiple police sources, police officials in court documents obtained by WFA on Thursday, dallas police Confirmed that a warrant for a third-degree felony charge of assaulting a pregnant person had been issued for Miller, a 34 year old DeSoto native who plays for the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2:You don't say yeah, miller's employer, the Buffalo Bills, released the following statement on the allegations his employer this morning. We are made aware of an incident involving Vaughn Miller. We are in the process of gathering more information and we'll have no further comment at this point. Please said that officers are spotted at 11 am Wednesday to a major, quote-unquote major disturbance Calling the 3100 black of North Harwood in the uptown area of Dallas. That's not far from my hotel, was down there about three blocks. Nice, oh, it was nice. I Stole some of the soaps. Officers arrived and found Miller's longtime girlfriend with minor quote-unquote minor abrasions on her left hand and bruising her neck, injuries consistent with applied pressure to the neck. Officers learned that Miller and the alleged victim were in an argument when Miller allegedly assaulted her. In An arrest warrant affidavit said police learned that Miller and his girlfriend were arguing in their bedroom because she didn't want to travel on her birthday this week. Vaughn, you're gonna have a kid with this woman.
Speaker 4:Reminds me Indiana Jones and his idea was like not anymore you chose poorly.
Speaker 2:Affidavit said the alleged victim went from the bedroom to the office of the home and slammed the door out of anger Miller then became visibly angry. The affidavit said he went into the office and yelled at his girlfriend to get out of the apartment.
Speaker 4:The after it's at the girlfriend.
Speaker 2:The after. He said the girlfriend quote-unquote attempted to comply with Miller's request to leave the home, but wanted to gather some items before leaving, as one would when they're being thrown out. As she did this, the affidavit said Miller began to shove and push her all the while, telling her to leave from the unit. The affidavit said Miller then began trying to film his girlfriend on his phone. Oh well, you can take me to push and shove her out of the home. Girlfriend kept yelling stop, I'm pregnant.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, the office. Oh Okay, the affidavit said. The affidavit said Miller then began applying pressure around the girlfriend's neck For three to five seconds. There's a lot of specificity going on here, much. The girlfriend tried to gather her belongings, but Miller grabbed her phone, threw her laptop on the floor and stopped on it I. Gotta tell you this just sounds like an old-classy east side dust up to me.
Speaker 4:No, that we used to hear about this right this one.
Speaker 2:The police would just show up and be like god damn it, not again.
Speaker 1:Damn it. I've been here three times. Come on, terry.
Speaker 2:The girl Terry. Oh, terry Miller was gone by the time officers arrived on the scene. His girlfriend told officers that she is six weeks pregnant. According to the affidavit, she was treated for minor injuries at the scene and then officers took her to headquarters. Who wrote this? Officers took her to headquarters for a full interview about what happened. My police call it. Headquarters Must be your downtown. Wfa obtained a recording of the night one. One call the girlfriend placed quote my boyfriend is choking and hitting me. I have bruises all over me.
Speaker 2:She can my way, you're reading this she's she can be heard saying, quote my hair is out.
Speaker 4:My hair is out. Did he pull her wig off? Is that what it?
Speaker 3:was it an abundant? It came out, or?
Speaker 2:I don't know so. And then the 91 just 911 dispatcher said the boyfriend was so with her. The girlfriend said he just stormed out. I don't know. She said when somebody asked the dispatcher she needed paramedics quote he pulled my hair out. I have like some blood on me but not like, yeah, I don't know. Love that reached by text messages by WFA Miller's girlfriend downplay the incident. Quote we're fine, things were blown way out of context. This is actually outrageous, unquote.
Speaker 4:I love that written. That read right after the nine one will call was perfect.
Speaker 2:Just so we're clear. And then she goes quote no one assaulted anyone. She texted this is insane and sad. I'm gonna go back to the 911 call, quote my boyfriend is choking and hitting me and I have bruises all over. My hair is out. A couple days later we're fine. Things were blown way out of.
Speaker 4:God, no amount of football picks is gonna top that yeah that's funny.
Speaker 2:So I mean geez, louise, I Love that there's this much reporting on this. Okay, I love that he threw the laptop down and just stomped on it. Well, man everything's taken out of context, I guess I hope, I hope her hair are gonna be okay.
Speaker 4:Speaking of things might be taken out of context. Yeah, Russell Wilson tweeted God's got me looking forward to what's next.
Speaker 2:Oh, we fucking got God. I quoted well, to the G.
Speaker 4:He was publicly benched, yeah, the remainder of the season. Because he sucks, let's ride. They're saying it's financial flexibility because he's guaranteed for de Mella next, next year. So mainly it's trade purposes so he doesn't get hurt. Jared Stidham, to start.
Speaker 3:That's not a good sign. You should leave Russell Wilson in you make so. Yeah, I know you guys aren't big fans of Wilson, but just so we're clear stats. Yeah he has better stats than Mahomes this year. Would you think about sitting in Mahomes?
Speaker 2:No, but Mahomes has been throughout his career the best quarterback in the NFL, top two, top three.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying you have 17, 16 weeks worth of yeah this year.
Speaker 2:Sure, well, obviously, russell. So here's. Here's some of the things that I've heard of. What Sean Payton was fed up with like day one Was Russell Wilson's posse, his own way his own way of doing everything, his overall attitude and bullshit. I think Peyton was of the opinion that I don't need that here, so especially now for 40 million dollars, and so I think he's been trying to find justification for getting the fuck out for for probably months, and now he's got it agree with that yeah so Goodbye Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2:And again, you know, according to him, god's got him, so he should be okay.
Speaker 4:What it was his exact quote that he tweeted. God's got me looking forward to what's next, so it seems like he's accepted it.
Speaker 2:Scott, I think you remember probably five, six weeks ago, I prophesied that Siara would divorce or at least leave Russell Wilson by February. The way things are going, I mean, if that ends up being right if he ends up in Minnesota, she's definitely not coming here.
Speaker 2:I swear to God, if we replace Kirk Cousins of Russell Wilson, I'm telling you right now I will pick up the green and gold and I become a lifelong packer supporter. I'm making the public proclamation If Russell Wilson gets brought to the Minnesota Vikings, I'm full on board. I'm buying season tickets to Lambo. You and I are going once a year New team Supporting the squad. I love it. I'll go to. Hattiesburg, mississippi, fucking jerk Brett Farve off. Help him find another volleyball stadium, whatever it takes.
Speaker 4:Vegas money has Vikings as the high favorite to land Russell Wilson in the offseason right now, as of right now.
Speaker 3:Wilson came out today and tweeted that he still wants to win championships in Denver, though Of course he's got to say, that's got to say that bullshit about looking forward to what's next this is a.
Speaker 2:This is just marketing. This is public appearance. Now. Yeah let's just managing the.
Speaker 4:I'm not a trouble case. Please take me next season.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean O'Connell. Such a strong coach, I'm sure he'll be able to fucking absorb and contend and manage Russell Wilson's diva bullshit. Seriously the biggest diva in the NFL, russell Wilson.
Speaker 4:He's not even a wide receiver A wide head. Speaking of wide receivers that have earned a little bit of diva status. Recently a Mari Cooper with Cleveland yeah had himself 11 catches for 265 and two touchdowns. He broke the Brown single game receiving yards record, passing Josh Gordon's previous mark of 261 from all the way in 2013. So 10 years old.
Speaker 2:Mark Cooper's been around a bit too Good to see him do it yeah.
Speaker 4:New career high for himself. Fourth game of 200 plus yards, tied for thirst third most in NFL history.
Speaker 2:So for him it was pretty good. Mark Cooper's it seemed like a good dude too. I know we're gonna talk about the Vikings, but I want to make the comment again. Jordan Addison is oppressed the hell out of me. I'm looking forward to see what he does year two.
Speaker 3:You'll get better. Yep Agreed.
Speaker 2:Sky. What else you got?
Speaker 4:Well, apparently, if everyone can stay healthy, might not all be up to Jordan Addison, because Hawkinson's out for the rest of the season with an ACL and MCL.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what will we do without all that production?
Speaker 4:You can argue, and I know it's not fun to watch, but it's, you know he does. He does do his job a lot at the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah who's the backup. Tight end on the Minnesota Vikings, who can do everything that he can do for an eighth of the cost.
Speaker 4:Basically anybody out of correct, fine, thank you yeah.
Speaker 2:It's got you on the line. They called you up, fucking game time you could catch my passes.
Speaker 4:My big country shenanigans got me in trouble on the basketball court, but they would do me well.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, fuck yeah. No, we would want to cover you. They'd be like fuck that.
Speaker 4:Speaking of nobody can cover me. Jacobi brisett nearly saved the day two weeks in a row.
Speaker 3:It's a man.
Speaker 4:Washington. It's good dude he's. He has a hammy issue. He may start this week if he's, if he's healthy enough. Otherwise they'll have to resort back to haul. But I only bring it up because you love Jacobi brisett and he'll probably be a free agent.
Speaker 3:I'm glad he's getting a chance, though Good.
Speaker 2:Seriously.
Speaker 3:How uninteresting is this season been.
Speaker 2:We're talking about Jacobi brisett I mean, I know that I talk about how much I love him, but we know it's hyperbole, real, the man's unaccomplished and we're talking about his hammy issues and that he almost won. That's where we're at. There's nothing going on.
Speaker 4:He's the black, nick Mullins, nick the pick now Jacobi's. Better than that right.
Speaker 2:Oh for sure he doesn't throw one interception for every hundred yards of production, does he?
Speaker 4:No, not usually cut from the same cloth, obviously, as Jalen Hertz. Hertz finished Monday's victory with 301 yards on 204 of 38 passes with a touchdown and an interception. The touchdown toss snapped a skid of two games without one. He added 34 rushing on eight carries with a one-yard push push TD to begin the game, scoring and break loose of a tie with cam Newton In 2001 had the most rushing TDs by a QB in a season. So Fuck you, cam Newton. There are other people that could do it just like you.
Speaker 4:There's a weird diva to he if.
Speaker 3:I can find it.
Speaker 4:No, cam Newton, you know we had been talking and you said we should definitely do your end awards. So I've been putting together a list of a couple of them and I'm definitely gonna put together a list of cam Newton award for player most oblivious to their own rampant Narcissism, where they say and where weird shit like Kanye that we all laugh at, that them award.
Speaker 2:Yeah, are we gonna get that on a plaque?
Speaker 4:I'll probably have to make it an acronym.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say make it an acronym. We could probably throw that on there.
Speaker 4:But cam Newton's one of those guys that's just so fucking out there and he doesn't seem to care.
Speaker 2:He is funny, though I tell you what he's not boring. He's a smart guy. If you've heard some of his, I'm gonna send you guys a link to an interview he gives With a guy talking about, like Jada Pinkett, will Smith one of the funniest things I've ever seen, and cam Newton is absolutely hysterical at it. So I will I'll send it off. He is far more entertaining and listen, he was a decently good quarterback, but as a personality, I think that's where he makes his mark. Seriously, I'm a broadcast company. I maybe he's too hard to control. I think he'd be fucking fascinating in the booth. I really do. Cam Newton is fucking electric when he's talking.
Speaker 2:Get him on Thursday night yeah oh my god, that would probably be a great pairing cuz you'd have with love, the flamboyance of cam Newton with just fucking the workman like.
Speaker 4:You know professional excellence of al michael's.
Speaker 2:Seriously, how great is al michael's one of the all-time rates?
Speaker 3:He's been rather boring this year, though.
Speaker 2:Well, it's cuz you paired him with you, paired him with herb street. Yeah, you gotta get fucking you gotta get it back with Chris again, cuz those two loved each other. I mean, those two clearly liked working with one another.
Speaker 3:Yeah, where's Chris at? Where's coming Sunday?
Speaker 4:Sunday they kept Chris and dumped out, and that's because NBC has beef with Al for some reason.
Speaker 2:Well, if I'm Collins, where I'm like I'm leaving.
Speaker 3:I could make him come back yeah right.
Speaker 2:Like those two together are so good, not as good who Scott? All-time best pairing. I'm mad in summer right, pat, summer all in John Madden, clue I mean, but they made the game so entertaining.
Speaker 4:Cozar and other with this from old games. There's some really good ones too, but in our, in our time frame probably mad in summer.
Speaker 2:Kenny Alberts actually not bad either. Enjoy listening to him. But yeah, you know, workman like, but fucking summer all in Madden, but I like not far down the line for me is Collins worth an L Michaels fucking fantastic.
Speaker 4:I always thought gorilla monsoon from the WWF should have called football games. Oh god damn.
Speaker 2:Do we even need to pick tonight, or can we just move right to the end of the show? What do we need to do?
Speaker 4:Well, here let's talk about the playoff clinchers and such Real quick, so you can at least know a little bit about what to expect this week. All right, all right, we got Eliminated teams from playoff contention. On the AFC side you got the Jets, of course, the Titans and the Chargers newly added and the Patriots Chargers were already off, but they just technically got kicked off this way last week NFC out and New York Giants, commanders, cardinals and Panthers, of course. Now, right now, at the top of the list on the AFC side, you have the Ravens and dolphins. They are in 100%. Number one seed is probably gonna go to the Baltimore Ravens. Presently. They're at about 74% chance, with the dolphins about a quarter percent or 25%. Excuse me, chiefs hanging on to the other, their division at nine and six. Jags somehow still holding top at their division at eight and seven. Three wild card spots held by your Browns ten and five or six, I would be it'll be eleven and five probably by the end of the day. A weekend bills nine and six, and then Colts eight and seven for the last two playoff spots holding right now, slightly on the fringe, you have the Texans, the Steelers, the Bengals and the Raiders. Very little chance for the Raiders, but they are a scrappy team. Bengals who knows what that shit? Steelers they can't win. And the Texans have stowed back this week, david. So we'll see he's. He's gone in for that rookie of the year too.
Speaker 4:On the NFC side you got the Niners and the Lions and the Eagles and the Bucks are. Excuse me, lions, niners and Eagles are definitely in the playoffs, the Bucks are. If they win, they're in, but they're all holding top the divisions. Then on the wildcards, you got Cowboys, rams and the Seahawks. I can't believe the Rams are staying away and out there, just at the top of the fringe. There you got the Vikings, the Falcons, the Packers and the Saints. Saints very little chance because they're fighting the Falcons and, of course, the Buccaneers in their division. Vikings basically, if they win the next two games they'll be in, but that's against the Packers. And then Detroit, who is playing for home field advantage, if they can get it.
Speaker 2:So there will be no meaningless games, is what I'm hearing. We're gonna get maximum effort out of our opponents.
Speaker 4:Most of the teams this week you're gonna see, and next week actually, you're gonna have a lot of those divisional matchups, so so Packers obviously want just to crush our hopes and dreams and stop us right in our tracks.
Speaker 2:So we lose to the Packers.
Speaker 4:It's done, we're out more or less yes, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. Well, listen, I think, when I look at the field clearly, for me right now the Baltimore Ravens are the runaway favorite to win the Super Bowl. They look like they're playing better than everybody else. Lamar Jackson looks a fucking insane right now. Oh yeah, boy was that? I did watch that game. Holy shit Can that guy play? You can do everything, you do everything. That's a fun team to watch and, by the way, I don't know if it's just a color purple that I'm prone to, but god damn, I like those Baltimore Ravens uniforms.
Speaker 1:Much better than the Vikings, though they are yeah.
Speaker 2:The bird.
Speaker 3:The dark purple.
Speaker 1:Maybe, I'll go.
Speaker 3:Baltimore. I like the wire.
Speaker 4:One of my, one of my best friends, richie has always been a Baltimore fan.
Speaker 2:That's right. Me and Richie could start a fucking Viking or sorry, I'm already doing it A Baltimore Ravens fan bar, a fan cast.
Speaker 4:Richie and Dave yeah, so fuck it.
Speaker 2:I don't know, anyway, who cares. Who cares about this shit? I'd be more interested to know how many people are going to be shot on the day they have the Super Bowl parade in Baltimore. I got the over under a 10. Scotty, where you at on that you taking the under the over.
Speaker 4:What was that? Who's getting shot?
Speaker 2:That's got pays attention in Baltimore in Baltimore.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, that's still. That's under Absolutely.
Speaker 3:Next.
Speaker 4:I'm pretty much fresh out. If you want to get to Scott's, scott's probably looking at titties. My eyes are up here.
Speaker 2:By the way, can I tell you, are you able to see? Okay, turn around and look at that curtain. Tell me that the the I assume it's the the left side, the way that I'm looking at it. Tell me that doesn't look like the fucking sorting hat from Harry Potter.
Speaker 4:It's only I see the eyes, yeah.
Speaker 1:That looks like the sorting.
Speaker 3:Take a picture of that shit.
Speaker 2:That's hysterical, is it? Yeah, more interesting than the NFL season Go ahead. First game. Let's get through this. I got, I got supper All right.
Speaker 4:Well, we all got to pick the Cleveland game, so that's all done yesterday. But in one of the games of the week we have Detroit visiting Dallas. Dallas has the line at home four and a half. They do play a lot better at home. I don't really like it, but I'm going with Dallas on this one. Cowboys do play so much better at home.
Speaker 2:James, who are you taking?
Speaker 3:I don't trust the Lions defense. I'm going with Cowboys Cool.
Speaker 2:I'm going to take the Lions I need to at this point. It's time for desperation. You say that yeah, well, comfortable when you're dining on Mount Olympus. All right, I'm smelling the fecal matter of your, of your refuse.
Speaker 4:All right, speaking of refuse. New England Patriots shall be visiting the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2:Okay, buffalo Bills, okay, stop, stop. Pretty much for everybody, buffalo Bills, I'm not talking about this anymore.
Speaker 4:I mean the Patriots did beat him early in the season, but whatever, All right. Atlanta at Chicago. Chicago's got the line at home by three. Atlanta is obviously fighting to stay in the alive for the playoffs and they're a weird little scrappy team. I've still gone with Chicago at home. They seem to be playing without beer who you going with James?
Speaker 3:That's a tricky one.
Speaker 4:Actually, I'm going to go with the Falcons, I think it's a good pick either way on this one, but it is at soldier, so I'm going with the old team.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go with my boy, scott. I'll take the burrs.
Speaker 4:Wow, I'm just kidding. Jameson got to make fun of your picks earlier. I got one in Wow.
Speaker 2:I wonder if I can find if I can find a new podcast. Uh, like a like a producer on Fiverr rent a crew Fiverr. Go ahead, scottie. What's the next game?
Speaker 4:The scrappy Las Vegas Raiders shall be visiting the Colts at Lucas oil stadium. Colts have the line at home. Oh, the Raiders for the upset. On this one I like their action. They're not going to probably make the payoffs, but they've been a lot of fun to watch these last.
Speaker 2:Jameson Colts or Raiders.
Speaker 3:I'm going to go with the Colts.
Speaker 2:I'll take the. Raiders, I'm just going to fuck Scott shit up all day. You got my stank on you, now bitch.
Speaker 4:You bring up. So this is why I don't play blackjack with you Shut up. And she, on the shitter of the week, the LA Rams at the New York Giants Rams have the line on the road by five. Probably a flexion a little bit, but I'm going to go with the Rams on this one. They, uh, they're better than the Giants Rams. I'm going to take the Giants. Big Tyrod is going to start for the the Giants energy last week actually.
Speaker 4:So yeah, he looks pretty. He's got a nice groove with his team. David's going to Giants. He loves it, all right.
Speaker 2:I don't love it, but yeah, desperate times call for desperation. Either listen, I'm going to gain five picks this week or I'm going way back.
Speaker 4:What happened last week? Oh right Arizona, that's a dick.
Speaker 2:What's the next game?
Speaker 4:Hardie Nalls will be flying to the nest of the Eagles.
Speaker 3:Ten and a half to the home team. Stop, yep, billy.
Speaker 2:I'm not. I know what's picking the Cardinals in this game. We're moving forward, Of course.
Speaker 4:But you do love this one. Here's a game of the week for you Tampa Bay hosting their division rivals, the New Orleans Saints, Tampa B. Tampa B has a small line of two and a half, but they are hustling to keep that fucking division title alive for them. I'm going with Tampa Bay at home on this one. What do you think, David?
Speaker 3:Tampa, tampa, look good Yep.
Speaker 4:Bank. Surprise, that's a smaller. That's such a small line. Fuck New Orleans right. Stop for a minute.
Speaker 2:New Orleans.
Speaker 4:Got it in the buzzer. All right, probably don't need to speak on this one. Much Speaking to Jacoby Percet, whether he's playing or not at home, it won't be enough to stop. San Francisco Nine, I think you All right. And in a shitter of the week, jacksonville hoping Trevor Lawrence can play will be hosting Carolina Panthers. Suck, I'm going with Jacksonville. So I mean they might. One kid, he ruins, another kid he's day, but I don't see it, jaguars.
Speaker 2:Jaguars.
Speaker 4:We can't bring the upset on that one, Dave.
Speaker 2:I think it's my self. Delusion can only exist for so long, rooster cockburn.
Speaker 4:With the lady or without Game of the week, I would say Miami, visiting the aforementioned powerhouse, baltimore, three and a half. At home to Baltimore I've gone with the Ravens. The Miami Dolphins are suspect at times, so they just took down the Niners. How can you go against the Ravens?
Speaker 3:Yeah, the Ravens are looking really good.
Speaker 4:Ravens Best team in the NFL Well that was easy, all right, and a possible shitter of the week, but possible fun game to watch Divisional rivals. Tennessee Shall go to Houston. Houston, hopefully with CJ Stroud back in action. Cleary protocol from the Cushion concussion, excuse me Three and a half to the home team. I've gone with the Texans, not going to stop now.
Speaker 3:I'm on CJ bandwagon Go Houston Tennessee.
Speaker 4:What is it? Heads, not tails. Got it the car, the girl the car which one gets better mileage. All right, all right. Pittsburgh, going to the 12th band house there out in Seattle. Seattle has the line at home three and a half Gone with the Seahawks. I just there's nothing going on in Pittsburgh that I'm impressed with right now.
Speaker 3:Steelers. Always surprise you though, I know, but that's good, they're at home.
Speaker 4:Either one of them.
Speaker 3:No, I'm going Seattle.
Speaker 2:Pittsburgh. I swear to God, if I win all these games and I went opposite of, I'm coming back strong.
Speaker 4:It might as well.
Speaker 2:I know you're rooting for me.
Speaker 4:Scott, I want you to gain some ground in another, hopefully the last shitter of the week. We got the LA Chargers going to the Denver Broncos three and a half to the home team at mile high. Go Jared Stidham. I've picked the Broncos. Maybe he'll have better luck than Eastman stick or Easton stick in LA.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:I'm going to.
Speaker 3:Chargers just to be different.
Speaker 2:Let's get the Broncos, god damn it.
Speaker 4:And just another game. Kansas City is hosting Cincinnati six and a half, you know, at the start of the season. This would have been one hell of a motherfucking game this week.
Speaker 3:it will be actually.
Speaker 4:I'm not as excited about this one. Casey's future is pretty much determined for getting into the playoffs, obviously, and Cincinnati, whatever you know like browning. No, I do, it's just you know what are they playing for More mediocrity?
Speaker 3:you know, yeah, what?
Speaker 2:are you taking? You're taking.
Speaker 4:Casey, yeah Taking the home team.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you gotta go to my homes, I just think Taylor Swift and Kelsey go the distance.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 4:Probably you think so. I say nay, I think they do.
Speaker 2:I'm going to take Cincinnati and upset.
Speaker 4:And, of course, our game of the week. The Green Bay Packers shall be visiting the Minnesota Vikings. Vikings have a slight line at home for some reason, but it's more or less kind of a pickem. I would think 50-50. I'm going to go with the purple and gold at home. Why not Fucking go? Jared Hall three touchdowns, two of them rushing 225 yards, passing 47 points Total.
Speaker 3:Minnesota.
Speaker 4:Go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I as well will be supporting Jared Hall. I like this kid a lot. I want him to do well and, quite frankly, I haven't been this excited about a potential Minnesota quarterback in a long time. I think that there's something there. He looked good when he started this game. He looked good he's also got that workman like attitude super down to earth. I think this might be the guy.
Speaker 4:There's something about this guy Get that guardian helmet on, let him play with that on, keep him safe.
Speaker 2:Well, just drop. Listen, jeron, do me a favor. I don't even care if you lose this game, but just learn to avoid the contact. Ok, it's OK to just fucking fall, get down on the ground.
Speaker 4:Shit that you need to learn on the field.
Speaker 2:I need you to play Raise it. I need you to be on the field like 96% of the time, not 4% of the time, because you're fucking running into brick walls over and over again. So just go down, it's OK, listen to me, Jeron you guys are huge.
Speaker 2:Listen to me, jeron. I know you're young and you have a sense of invincibility, but you can't win them all. These are bigger, stronger men than you and they're angry. I think half of them are taking steroids the Russian ones. They can't be detected in the P test, so you need to go down. Protect yourself at all costs. I think the Minnesota Vikings are going to win this game and I think it's going to be rather lopsided. So, scotty, how many points you got? 47. James, how many points you taking?
Speaker 3:That's a good number. I'm going to go 44.
Speaker 2:Perfect, I'm going to go six points and I don't want to hear any shit. You guys are up 17 picks and I'm not going to feel guilty about it. I get judged by you guys, not so much you, james, and you seem to be all right with it. But Scott certainly comes down on me like a ton of bricks.
Speaker 4:You could totally pick half a point and it would make any difference. You're definitely.
Speaker 2:Johnny from Crowdy kid, Not only listen, you don't even need the coach to tell you to sweep the leg. You already had it in your mind.
Speaker 4:I was already in mid sweep.
Speaker 2:You're aiming for both eyes. I'm going to blind this bastard. Fuck that kid up there in life. Fucking just shrewd, Shrewd my groove burger.
Speaker 4:So six for David and 44 for Jameson.
Speaker 2:That's right. Six points Correct.
Speaker 4:Everyone's picking Minnesota, Even the line go, spread go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, that's how things go.
Speaker 3:Go.
Speaker 2:Green Bay Could be my new team. Peckers, if we get, like I said, if Russell Wilson comes to Minnesota, that's it. That's it. The whole damn franchise needs to be burned to the ground and start over.
Speaker 4:What if he was a pecker next year? Green and gold for Russell. No, Jordan, that's not even the future.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's not even a possibility.
Speaker 4:They do something crazy, they decide to be the packers.
Speaker 2:They don't do crazy, quite honestly, the places that make the most sense for someone like Russell Wilson would be like Las Vegas. It's a decent receiving.
Speaker 3:Maybe New England, I don't know?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think. Well, belichick will be gone, so that might be interesting to talk about in the next episode, because that'll be the last game of Belichick's career. I don't think he's going to go anywhere else.
Speaker 3:Might be.
Speaker 2:But we could talk about where he could potentially land and where he might go. I think it makes much more sense to move into a GM role. I know he already is for the Patriots. Maybe he just stays there and does that. I mean, he's royalty, don't go anywhere else.
Speaker 4:What did the coach say about Rod Tidwell and Jerry Maguire? It's like I want a prototypical wide receiver, 8-2 catches, not someone who's 5-8 and bitches in the locker room. I think about Russell Wilson as a guy who's 5-8 and bitches in the locker room. He's trouble, like you may have talent, but you're trouble and it may not just be worth it.
Speaker 2:I assume he's toxic in the locker room. He's one of those guys that just inherently creates lines You're on one side or you're on the other and then he creates distractions and nobody wants to deal with it.
Speaker 4:So maybe he's a pathological liar. He doesn't even know he's doing it.
Speaker 2:Oh, I think that Russell Wilson is completely delusional If you look at some of his self-promotional pictures that he takes of himself. He thinks he's like a fucking model yeah, his offense are shit. He thinks he's an attractive man. He tried doing those skinny pants, but they're all tapered in on the ankle with no fucking size. It's just ridiculous Enough.
Speaker 4:He's definitely a nominee for the Cam Newton award this year.
Speaker 2:I wonder how many times he'll draw rolls of eyes while they're making love.
Speaker 4:Oh, I don't know. I don't know, depends if face time connection is good or not.
Speaker 2:I wonder if he bangs like Patrick Bateman from American Psycho, like he's? Got a mirror and he's just looking flexing it while he's fucking hammers on it.
Speaker 4:It's more about me than whoever he's bang it.
Speaker 2:He's so pleased with himself.
Speaker 4:He just did like 40 lifts with the 40 curls with the arm bar. He's like just pumped.
Speaker 2:Sierra has been left completely unsatisfied.
Speaker 4:You poor thing that seems like the end of the story. Right, Like you expect that would be the case. I just dislike him.
Speaker 2:He looks like he's a man that's like he tries to exude that. He's just been burdened with purpose and he's just trying to get through all the trials and tribulations that people are putting in his way. On the other end of that is his destiny. But it's like no man. You're just a douche.
Speaker 3:You're putting the only shit in your own way.
Speaker 2:I wonder if he was like this at Wisconsin, like the whole state was just glad to get rid of him, like fuck off.
Speaker 4:Once a badger, always a badger.
Speaker 2:Badgering everybody all the time. I wonder what kind of gifts he gets. His offense of lineman, or is he a guy that doesn't get him at all? He's got to give them something. You think so. Imagine like he started his own like hair care line and that's what he gave all the offensive linemen. He strikes me as that kind of guy.
Speaker 4:He's like wild colors for their hair or shit like that. I did see that. Lawrence, was it Trevor? Lawrence bought golf carts for his guys.
Speaker 3:Now that's a nice gift. Did you hear about the Raiders quarterback? What did you do? His wife made cookies for the offense of lineman. That's a nice gift, he's making nothing, so that's probably a lot of money. That's good, that's heartfelt yeah.
Speaker 2:You're going to spend at least a buck 50 a Costco on all that flour, sugar, chocolate chips, vanilla extract, Am I right? Word Russell Wilson strikes me as a kind of guy that he gives that out and then he says something like this isn't even released to the public yet. Like he's like, let me tell you how honored you are to me. He's smelling my new scent. It's called let's Ride.
Speaker 4:This says Turkish Nutmeggan at mine from the backs of yeah, this is.
Speaker 2:This is Jesus Christ. This has been distilled from Ciara's fashion All secretions. Siphon from her sweat glands Also curiously, wouldn't be from hers, it would be from his.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he's just squeezing his pits right into.
Speaker 2:Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4:So it's, it's RW, let's ride. Victor, let's, let's smell.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, god bless him. He's going to. He's going to get paid because they need quarterbacks and there's not a lot coming out of the draft, so there's a few coming out this year, yeah, but it's hard to be a starting quarterback year, one I mean, you know you shouldn't be, you should not be.
Speaker 2:The Packers know this and they do it well. You sit for two, three years, you learn some shit, and then you get out there and start throwing some balls. Yeah, I don't know, russell Wilson. What an easy target, though, that Russell Wilson face.
Speaker 4:You can sometimes fire shots, get fired over him. He is very short.
Speaker 1:Is he? What is?
Speaker 3:his height Short of the most Like 510, probably Is he.
Speaker 2:Quarterbacks. He plays with lifts and his shoes. It's nice to sentence he's 511.
Speaker 4:OK, that's not that short really, but that's also probably.
Speaker 3:Quarterbacks Pretty short. Under six foot for a quarterback is short.
Speaker 4:Well, no, no, I know I meant, but that's nearly you got to see over.
Speaker 2:You know like there's a picture here of him. When next to Ciciara, sit next to or standing next to Andrew Luck, yeah, and like a lot. Luck could just wipe his brow with his beard, just fucking drape it across Right.
Speaker 4:It's like under the giant with the little people wrestlers.
Speaker 2:Look at your Kobe brisette back there, there he is, big, huge hands. The Kobe brisette is just looking at this and he's like God damn, russell Wilson is tiny. All right, anything else, gentlemen, this has been fun.
Speaker 4:It has been fun. I think that that's good for me.
Speaker 3:Yep, that's a wrap. All right, here we go.
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