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IGNTR NFL Pick'em Week 16

December 19, 2023 IGNTR Media Network Season 3 Episode 16
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IGNTR NFL Pick'em Week 16
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Dive helmet-first into the sports talk that packs a punch. It's not all playbooks and punt returns; we tease our  awards that would make even OJ Simpson raise an eyebrow. Whether you're a die-hard Steelers fan or just here for the hypothetical hilarity, we've got the audible calls that will keep you engaged until the final whistle.

As we close out with our picks for the week's nail-biting matchups, it's not just football on the line—it's our pride. Will the Vikings sail to victory, or will the Lions roar? Can the Jets soar past the Commanders, or will it be a capital punishment? Grab your headphones and a cold one, because this is the NFL Pick'em Show, where even the advice on life's slippery slopes is as crucial as a two-minute drill. Don't fumble the chance to join our huddle; we're the team you didn't know you needed until now.

Ideas, rage, praise, dirt? Send it to igntrnetwork@gmail.com

Speaker 1:

Live from the igniter bunker deep deep under cold spring Minnesota. It's the NFL Pickham show, with your host, the two-time boatman of the year and 2023 cold spring Lions golf scramble champion Shucker, all-star, joined in studio by the big-winged Jameson wall oh my god and remotely from their smoke-stained shed. Interim producer. Interim producer Scott Nyberg. Nfl analysis and inside information from across the league. Meant to edify and entertain. It's the igniter NFL pickham show and it starts right now. Are you ready for some football?

Speaker 2:

we're ready for some football, baby are you ready for some football baby? Well, it's week 16 of the igniter NFL pickham show. In a season of average play, this podcast is certainly elevated itself in the pantheons of great NFL podcast. I'm your host, shocker all-star, joined by the big-dicket one, the third leg himself, jameson wall and Scott I love that follow-up, just simply Scott well everything nice to say there he is handsome your ammo that had some devil.

Speaker 3:

I see the curtains have not changed from last week sticking to it how Scott yep one of these things that I'd love you to.

Speaker 2:

Research is the distance to a Joanne fabrics.

Speaker 4:

I'm not changing the curtains.

Speaker 2:

I don't even know. That's a curtain that just looks like a blanket you hung from the wall oh, it's a full wall curtain.

Speaker 4:

The problem is it doesn't belong in that small window. First, it's for a sliding glass door right week 16, yetroglodytes.

Speaker 2:

It is a podcast for NFL fans and and really, I think, consumed by a wide swath of people, from NFL layman all the way through to gambling NFL insiders. I certainly think the Terry Bradshaw could potentially be a fan of this show. I've got nothing to suggest that any of that is true. I am floating it out there. It is a wonderful show that we like to deliver to you week over week. By God, we put our hearts and souls into this and I will tell you, unlike previous NFL seasons, this has been a sad and pitiful display of football talent. We're trying to make a meal here for you. We're trying to make it entertaining. The NFL is not helping. This was a another week of, I think, disappointing football. Certainly, it just feels very average. This feels like the what I think a couple years ago, the Canadian Football League would have felt like if we watched those games.

Speaker 2:

They're trying pretty right, yeah, but it's not. It's not blowing up the skirt. Is growth sustainable? Though you're trying to say, I can't keep it up?

Speaker 4:

told you I'm fired up yeah, you're ready to go peppered up, definitely not get. Totally keep it up.

Speaker 2:

Scott, I'm changing it up. I have not looked at the mural at all. I want to be caught unawares. I want you to lead me tonight, son. I want you to engage me. I want you to draw me down a path of intrigue. I want you to give me plenty of targets to to unfurl my loaf on to yeah, okay, the bulk of that will definitely be the playoffs, scenario sure you there is a bulk the incredible bulk thank you, scotty. Where would you like to begin tonight?

Speaker 4:

well, I know when she gets your music ready oh did I win again.

Speaker 3:

Get out of here yeah, you guys are done.

Speaker 2:

I'm unstoppable.

Speaker 3:

The inertia is unstoppable that just made your night a hundred times better than tell me. I won by more than one.

Speaker 4:

I want you to enjoy the praise, but before we get to that, jimison, this isn't. This isn't a week. We're on Thursday night. David picked the Chargers to beat the Raiders that didn't work out no, it was close, but you got, I think, 11 overall for the week, so not bad at all, sir.

Speaker 2:

With the Chargers and Raiders kerfuffle. You should almost got a negative one for that. I probably should have lost a little bit of street cred. 11 right, who got, who got second?

Speaker 4:

I did with ten sheson, bringing up the rear with nine oh. I got one more on your body 125 125 for David for the season, 140 for Jameson and 139 for me.

Speaker 2:

I'm still 14 behind you. How many weeks are left? You know I need to do. I need to add to the soundboard the whole like a calculator or an adding machine. Yeah, I need to figure this out. Computational you only have eight buttons you said yeah, well, I know I have eight buttons, but I've got 20 pages, like 20 pages at eight.

Speaker 2:

So we can swap sounds what that's the only I don't like I need to get. There's an attachment that they make that gets like. That gives me the sounds that my dedicated ones that I would use all the time. Yeah, because this one requires a lot of navigating around, which is oftentimes why I'm delayed and applying the sound. It may also have something to do with the fact that I do most of the work on this. Like I feel like I need my Fred Norris from the Howard Stern fame. Like I focus on entertaining, I need somebody hitting the button. The button, if you give me soundbar and I'll play with it.

Speaker 2:

Okay, that's actually not a horrible idea. All right, I like that. All right, I'm gonna look at road, I'm gonna find, and I think they make a wireless one or one that with a long cord you know what that is and then you can hook it up to this thing and then you can, you can do the sounds. I think that would be. That'd be a thing for you that would be cool.

Speaker 4:

Do be a son, or to tell me my contribution.

Speaker 2:

Yeah and then you could go out and farm sounds.

Speaker 4:

That would enhance the show like you wouldn't believe you sound engineer just set it up on the me counter at Teals and just wait maybe the first one is just the sound of your wiener hitting the floor just don't ruin it.

Speaker 2:

I don't want to. I want, I want.

Speaker 3:

I want to hear it live you will not be hearing that live, so it is a dubious touch David's unit, but whoa good for you all right, so I won.

Speaker 2:

All is in the universe as it should be. Scotty, I feel like we're starting out right. That's two weeks in a row that I've dominated you Gibroans. Where do we go with that? Is it all downhill from here? Well, that depends if we talk about football, it's gonna go downhill well, tell us about your week.

Speaker 4:

When are you? When you going back to work or back on the road?

Speaker 2:

I'll be back to work January 4th.

Speaker 3:

I'm off until January 4th and college vacation huh.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got some to-do lists around the hoose. I got a family coming this weekend, I'm gonna do a Christmas brisket on Saturday, and so I got a lot going on. You gotta get on the exchange, is it just for?

Speaker 4:

Christmas or is it flavored Christmasy? Sorry.

Speaker 2:

Oh like, is there a special spice that we're gonna put in?

Speaker 4:

Nutmeg in there, or is it just brisket on Christmas?

Speaker 2:

What could be considered? Kind of a.

Speaker 4:

Cranberries, nutmeg, maybe an oaky.

Speaker 2:

Maybe a barbecue sauce if I found more of a holiday, seasoned up a little bit. So typically, what I don't tell my wife Because she's like, oh, pepper is too much, I use the devil's spit as a rub Because by the time it cooks, a lot of that cooks off but it leaves a nice crust, and so that's kind of my secret. But, that being said, it might be interesting to get some, maybe like some freeze dried cranberry or cranberry powder, if I can find it and just do a little cranberry rub, you soak it.

Speaker 4:

or a brine at an eggnog and whiskey. Jesus can you.

Speaker 2:

You know these briskets aren't cheap. I can't go too far in my experimentation, scotty, but you may have. You may have posited an idea.

Speaker 4:

They used to be cheap. That's why people cooked brisket.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, not anymore.

Speaker 4:

Now it's the thing, costco still has them for relatively decent.

Speaker 2:

You get a pretty good size brisket there for 50 bucks and you're feeding eight, nine, 10 people with it. So you go from that perspective it's five bucks a person to feed them. It's not horrible. No, I mean it's not. You're not spending McDonald's money. You see how much they're charging for food there now. It's like 10 bucks a meal. It's 14. 14 bucks what did the other day. Got three meals $34. Shoof.

Speaker 4:

Wait in line four hours for the cosmic drive-through.

Speaker 2:

Is that opening here anytime soon? The Cosmics.

Speaker 4:

They just have one in Illinois, out in some little city.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if there's one thing I think that this country needs, it's more fast food. Especially Give them what they want. Port Landia fast food. Give them what they want.

Speaker 5:

The people want fast food.

Speaker 2:

They want hypertension. Give it to them. I think that you should instead of just the calories, I think you should literally put like all the things it's gonna do to your heart Hypertension, diabetes, blood pressure.

Speaker 3:

Surgeon general's warning.

Speaker 2:

Early onset death and then just have like pictures of fat people struggling next to all the meals. Guarantee, people don't stop buying it. They think it's hilarious. I'll take three. I'll take three. Yeah, anyway, don't get me started Football. What are we talking about?

Speaker 4:

I was going on that one, I watched a video of this guy try to get on a ride, but then he got off and said oh, you should have tried it right here to see if you'd fit, cause they have like little.

Speaker 2:

They do at Disney. Now They've got to and for someone like me, I actually appreciate it. They actually have a car or like, whatever you're gonna sit in at the entrance, you can be like, okay, I'm gonna fit in this thing, I'm not going to fit in this thing. The other thing and it's always for me, it's not the width, that's never the concern, it's is there enough space in front of me that my knees don't smash in to?

Speaker 4:

everything. Yeah, you're like six, six six, seven.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's not good. Well, James, the two would have a hard time. But then also your paranoia that your head's gonna hit everything, cause some of these rides are really I mean, like the fucking shit's really close to you. So I just have this fear that I'm gonna be the first guy to capitate it at Disney, you know. And then that's what I'll be known for, Not my huge weiner, the first ever Right, maybe at Disney but Not my, not my, not my my notorious temper.

Speaker 2:

Just Dave got his head lopped off at the old fucking space mountains.

Speaker 4:

I just be wondering if he paid so much money for that experience. Probably worth it.

Speaker 2:

Now he doesn't have to pay the credit card back.

Speaker 4:

He's done, he doesn't have to travel home.

Speaker 2:

His pay is over. Skip the flight. He doesn't have to travel. Fuckin', leave me there. Bear me next to Walt.

Speaker 4:

I suppose Brandon Staley probably didn't have to travel home with the Vegas Raiders last Thursday if he didn't want to. They got beat 63 to 21. They fired him and the GM, tom Tolesco, after that huge blowout.

Speaker 3:

We all know John Spanos. Wait a minute. Who is the Spanos?

Speaker 4:

Ownership is responsible for everything we got fired. Of course, john Spanos, president. He is the son of the owner, dean Spanos, so he's taking responsibility apparently.

Speaker 3:

LA Chargers.

Speaker 2:

Aren't they without Sherbert?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, Herbert.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, he's out Scott's frozen. Scott, are you there?

Speaker 4:

I'm here. I hear you that froze just a second ago.

Speaker 2:

Oh, ok, perfect. So I mean it's a team that it's dealing with half a deck. Yeah, it seems a little extreme 63 points to the Raiders.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, that's not OK.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, yeah, I mean good luck.

Speaker 4:

O'Connell had four touchdowns, best performance of his young career. Most points in Raiders history.

Speaker 2:

O'Connell didn't throw the ball, nick Mullins did, and then we failed at a sequence of push, pushes, a push Gnush that went nowhere.

Speaker 4:

You likening this to the Vikings? Yeah, I have to.

Speaker 2:

How did we lose that game? Who else but the Vikings and the Atlanta Falcons can lose that game?

Speaker 4:

Lack of offense, because the defense kept a minute for the most part.

Speaker 2:

We had four touchdowns.

Speaker 3:

You had four touchdowns, 24 points.

Speaker 2:

Divided by three touchdowns. I think Nick Mullins is the long term answer as starting quarterback for these Minnesota Vikings. You're into him huh, not at all. No, I hope he dies. I can't deal with it anymore. Fuck that guy. He doesn't look like a starting quarterback. He looks like the guy that massages the hamstring of the starting quarterback he doesn't have that star Right. He doesn't have the star appearance. He doesn't look right. He's definitely not Jalen Hertz. No, he's not. He's not Jalen Hertz, he's not anything. Nick Mullins.

Speaker 3:

Even his name, even his name just sounds Mullins.

Speaker 2:

Yeah it sounds like Nick Mullins. Sounds like the guy that grew up some dodgy part of London who just fucked bitches and get some pregnant and then avoids paying taxes.

Speaker 3:

Good Nick.

Speaker 2:

Nick Mullins. Nick Mullins. Yeah good, great.

Speaker 4:

So they fire that guy and in the, in the nothing is off limits when it comes to the court situation. They said they're going to do everything they can. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well listen, the Chargers have such a storied history of winning NFL championships. I'm sure they're trying to get back to that as soon as they possibly can. Am I right, scott?

Speaker 4:

Count them with me. We talked about it earlier. Count it with me.

Speaker 2:

How many NFL championships oh?

Speaker 4:

What? Wow? Well, we talked about it. We called it earlier this year Bella Charger. What do you think?

Speaker 2:

No, the Patriots are out of the playoffs. The only way he's going to San Diego is to retire. He doesn't want to come anymore. He's done.

Speaker 3:

Everyone's saying that he's not going back next year. So well, they're not going to take him back? No, they won't.

Speaker 2:

He could GM, though it might be a good role for him, but then it makes sense. I think at this point he doesn't want to take another losing season under his belt, because then it's going to start to chip away. Brady was smart, he was competitive in the year that he left, but he said that's enough, I'm done. And he walked away and he went on on the high note. Right, you went out hitting home runs, you didn't leave the sad former 45 though.

Speaker 2:

Shadow of his felt so well, yeah, but I mean, but still competitive at 45.

Speaker 3:

Oh, yeah, but it was a good time to walk away, right.

Speaker 2:

I mean, aaron Rodgers is 38. And they talk about him being too old to come back and perform. That's seven fucking years younger than Brady was, and he was still slanging and banging, so speak. Oh go on. No, you keep going, motherfucker, this is your show.

Speaker 4:

I was saying you mentioned Aaron Rodgers. He concedes that he won't play again this season, says 24. No need, 2024 won't be his last in the end of the year.

Speaker 2:

No, no need, I mean why risk it Rest.

Speaker 4:

And then I was like, well, no shit, fucker, we all knew you weren't going to do that Plenty of time to go on, pat McAfee and he had people defend his character.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Are we going to get Kurt Cousins back this year, because I've heard he's been flirting with coming back. Apparently he took that machine that he attached to his head and put it on his Achilles and it's been it's smartening up. Expediting is yeah, like something about the blood platelets or something. They're making faster, smarter decisions. Ordered it straight from Moscow. That's like a Russian performance enhancing machine. I heard my insider.

Speaker 4:

Well, if you think Robert Salo will be safe, he's good looking. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

He shouldn't be, but I bet he stays but he's been kind of cosmically fucked too.

Speaker 2:

He's a chess coach. I think it all depends. I think ownership has to go to Aaron Rodgers and go. What do you think? Should we keep Saul on? I think he says yes, sulla stays you think he likes him. I think he does. It seems like they get along If you're to believe what you see on hard docs. Aaron Rodgers is a kind of guy that just says shit to portray an image.

Speaker 4:

No.

Speaker 2:

So he seems like he gets along with him fine.

Speaker 4:

You've also intimated as well, David, that Robert Sulla seems to be one that lets a delegation take course as far as his head coaching goes.

Speaker 2:

He does. He's a player's coach, he's not a hard ass. Yeah, I think he probably stays. Have I ever bet money on it? I'd say Sulla is there next year. I don't think you disrupt it. If Rodgers is only going to play another season or two after this, then I think Sulla probably stays. Not. We don't have time for a new system and all the but it's up to Rodgers.

Speaker 5:

Let's be honest. It is up to Rodgers. It's up to.

Speaker 4:

Rodgers Sulla says there's two types of coaches those who have been fired and those who are about to get fired. So I think maybe he's the latter or the performer.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

So you're saying he's binary? It's like Demi Lovato.

Speaker 3:

Demi Lovato hot.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes I look at her and I go hot, and other times I look at her and I go you'd.

Speaker 5:

They are beautiful individual You're about to get.

Speaker 2:

You're going to see 12 different people when you search that name. Oh, Demi Lovato, hot or notcom on the new igniter while you poop Game show channel. We should really build that while you're pooping. Things you can do while you're pooping Read a little bit, play a little bit.

Speaker 4:

Play Yatsy. The mom had the Yatsy on the back of the day. Igniter poopery.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, I think that thing was covered in Salmonella and Fuglman.

Speaker 4:

You mentioned Tom Brady. He can't make it, can't get through this show with upbringing of TB 12. But he had a comment on the situation with the suspension of Steeler Safety De Monte Casey for the remainder of the season.

Speaker 2:

Did you see this? Hold on one second. Jameson right now is looking at pictures of Demi Lovato, and he showed me one that looks like a woman in crisis.

Speaker 4:

It's all look like a woman in crisis.

Speaker 3:

No, no, there's lots of good ones.

Speaker 2:

She's an entire lady, but oh my goodness what happened Right right right.

Speaker 4:

Yes, but Jameson, she is not a she, she is a they. She doesn't respond to she, she's a she.

Speaker 2:

Right, it doesn't change. And then here's another one.

Speaker 3:

Right what happened to her.

Speaker 2:

She's a different, she's different people. She's so fluid. She looks different, like she literally just changes her physical appearance, and I think that's something people are not a fluid thing that's. That's not OK. Would you kick her out of bed for eating crackers? Which which person are we talking about?

Speaker 4:

Running her fucking mouth. Maybe, I don't know.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that looks OK.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I think you'd probably kick her out after she started talking, though. Oh she's anyway.

Speaker 2:

I'm an attractive voice huh, I'd give her a minute.

Speaker 4:

No, no, no, just the nonsense she's spewing.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's when you start to see this weird thing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but just here's what I appreciate. Here's what I appreciate about you.

Speaker 2:

No matter what angle, you still look like the same guy.

Speaker 3:

Well, I try to yeah you look good.

Speaker 2:

Thank you All the, all the angles, all the lighting conditions. It's Jameson.

Speaker 4:

You try to, but not trying anything, just yourself. It's perfect.

Speaker 5:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

Good. Lord I love that I love the Dima tour, the Dima tour here to me.

Speaker 5:

Am I getting catfished here?

Speaker 2:

I feel like it. All right, it's got to go ahead. Stop distracting me.

Speaker 4:

Demi Lovato. Someone took your attention away from Tom Brady. That was impressive.

Speaker 4:

Tom Brady is lots of things, but he ain't got no boobies. He'll come back around, Go ahead. Nfl. So NFL suspended the Steelers safety, Demonte Kasey for the remainder of the season following a hit on Colts wide receiver Michael Pittman Jr. Yeah, the vice president, NFL vice president of operations, John Runyon, he said contact on Pittman violated a rule forbidding players from quote forcibly hitting a defensive players head, neck area with the helmet, face mask, etc. Etc. Sure, but basically he had plenty of time to stop. That's what he was saying. So he got he's done for the rest of the season. That's, you know, three, four games now, but or three and a half, as it turns out. But Tom Brady says nobody likes seeing players get hurt but hard hits happen.

Speaker 4:

The seven times Super Bowl winner wrote. Quote. Coaches need to coach better, quarterbacks need to read coverages and throw the ball to the right places, and defenders should aim for the right hitting areas. To put the blame on the defensive player all the time is just flat out wrong, so end quote.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's lazy, but it's easy to understand and listen. More importantly, I think this really puts the Steelers in a precarious position, because they're not. They're making a strong push to the playoffs.

Speaker 4:

They, they're not out.

Speaker 2:

How does this affect their? It's so there's just not compelling football. Who cares Not?

Speaker 4:

who cares? A retired football player's take on what happened was more entertaining to me. That's why I put it on there. What's that?

Speaker 2:

Well, tom Brady, tom Brady, yeah, that's yeah. Well, he's a wise man which he's he's commissioner of the NFL. If you wanted, it should be 60 million a year probably worth it.

Speaker 3:

He knows what the players want and how to make it exciting.

Speaker 2:

Well, he knows more about football than almost everybody else. That's good.

Speaker 4:

Good enough for some.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean I don't think he would ever want to coach, but he could be an owner. I mean, he's already built for it. Well, he is. Imagine that handsome fucker up in the owner's box at 55. You imagine what's in the box with him. You think he even commits to a long term partner anymore. Do we just get a new flavor? Is he like DeCaprio? Just sets a, just sets a, ceiling 24 and you're out. What is DeCaprio? Ceiling 23, 24? What do you think there?

Speaker 4:

Scotty, I don't think he has one. I think we're going to see him on fucking whatever news program in 10 years. He's a dirty birdie, that one.

Speaker 5:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I hope he takes his HPV vaccinations.

Speaker 5:

You know what I get cervical cancer from. You know what?

Speaker 4:

I mean, how about a dirty party? John Brock pretty says running back Christian McCaffrey, no, the NFL MVP.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 3:

I agree with him.

Speaker 2:

No, running bag gets MVP, ever, ever no.

Speaker 3:

See, and I agree with you, because obviously quarterbacks going to get it, sure, but make a separate award for the other players that kill it and they don't get any recognition. It's not all about the quarterback, it is, but it isn't.

Speaker 2:

You should have the OJ Simpson running back of the year award and then on the trophy it just says killing it. I'm into that, that's good. On the other side it just says you got the juice, now Fuck it If the cleat fits. Way to go, young man. I know that trophy Way to go, young man.

Speaker 3:

That's all you're telling me. Brock Curry would be as good as he is if Christian McCaffrey wasn't on that team.

Speaker 2:

I think he'd be as good as he is if you put Jerick McKinnon on that team.

Speaker 4:

McKinnon's not a bad running back, but I think the years, the years will tell us in the next 10 years. Obviously we have a long time to wait, but it's tough to say right now because he's still so young and they are so stacked right off.

Speaker 2:

I mean they have so many weapons. Tell me about the great quarterbacks that Tom Brady had in New England. Great quarterbacks Sorry, running backs.

Speaker 4:

Matt Castle behind him.

Speaker 2:

Lawrence Maroney Did you play there.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

That's one.

Speaker 3:

I don't remember very many.

Speaker 4:

I know I was going to argue with that, but that's a good point. But it also points out what Jameson was saying.

Speaker 3:

Exactly Right, it was all Tom Brady there. Here it's not, it's McCaffrey.

Speaker 2:

I heard some guy call him Brock Fugly once.

Speaker 3:

Why he's a good looking dude.

Speaker 4:

It's just a turn of phrase. David called him that, I think after their buy or before their buy.

Speaker 2:

I heard that guy has a huge winner. Who said that? I mean.

Speaker 4:

David Hinson. That's a quote. You can quote him on that. That guy's got a huge winner, so I did want to bring it up, just because, of course, we thought the Packers could not lose in December at home. Legaret.

Speaker 2:

Blount oh, that's a good one. Kevin Falk, james White, curtis Martin, sam Cunningham, tony Collins who are the best running backs in New England Patriots history? That's your. Those are your choices. It's so slim that the best running backs in Patriots history include a guy named Sam Cunningham, james White and Tony Collins, who none of us know.

Speaker 3:

I've heard of James White, but was he great? No, no, he was white.

Speaker 4:

Guy scores four touchdowns in one game.

Speaker 3:

Right, that's all it takes, is it Al Bundy?

Speaker 4:

He got well, yeah, right. Then he got benched the next week because he was late to practice you talking about practice, you talking about practice.

Speaker 2:

I like this song. Thanks for having me, let's get you yeah, Tomorrow if I hear something I don't like in the conversation with the robotics folks, I'm just going to play this on my phone until I hear what I do like.

Speaker 3:

You should just have that play from start to finish.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, Curtis Martin, number one according to the fans.

Speaker 4:

He was at older by the time he got there. He was a jet for a while. I say he was in.

Speaker 3:

New York forever. Yeah, not good for Tom Brady.

Speaker 4:

See, google doesn't tell the whole story. David, right away.

Speaker 5:

You want me to console?

Speaker 4:

the guy, like the Peckers game Jameson, that that score just doesn't tell the whole story, does it?

Speaker 3:

Peckerhead.

Speaker 4:

Baker fucking Mayfield.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4:

Baker Mayfield becomes the first opposing quarterback to post a perfect passer rating at Lambeau Field.

Speaker 3:

Ever, ever.

Speaker 4:

Ever Baker's.

Speaker 3:

Mark Baker fucking Mayfield Baker Vance, all people. What Dude? He's killing it. No, you know who's killing it. Joe Berry needs to get fired. Good job, man.

Speaker 2:

He's such a bad defensive coordinator OJ would love to give that award to Baker. Mayfield so bad. He's limited, though. He's a trash ass human being. That was quarterback that we could have an award.

Speaker 1:

I love the OJ and Leaf.

Speaker 2:

The OJ Simpson. You've got the juice, now killing it. Well, ryan Leaf just had a drug adage. He wasn't a horrible person.

Speaker 3:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2:

Frank Gifford was always chief.

Speaker 3:

You're Marcus Russell, kathy Lee.

Speaker 2:

Oh, John Manziel, oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

The John maybe. So that would be.

Speaker 2:

That would be a fun bit. Who is the scummiest quarterback ever and what award could we?

Speaker 3:

we should look into that.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So, did you guys, if you're not, if you're not sensing a bit right now, we're all missing an opportunity. The igniter pick them show. End of season awards. The John Manziel award for least committed quarterback goes to. And then we start doling out awards, scotty.

Speaker 4:

Well, I love that idea. I'll prep something up after you. You know a guy who makes trophies? I do.

Speaker 5:

All right.

Speaker 2:

Pretty good Like where we're going here.

Speaker 4:

Fuck it. Hey man, did you watch? I'm not even going to ask, Never mind. Um, I will say the AFC teams eliminated from playoff contention after week 15 are the Tennessee Titans, the New York Jets and the New New England Patriots. Oh shit, Good.

Speaker 2:

Not the Jets. Get out of there, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Nothing, we're doing shit anyway.

Speaker 4:

Horrible teams and the NFC teams eliminated from the playoffs are Washington commanders, yep Good, arizona Cardinals and Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 2:

Blue South. For the winner, carolina was still in it until last week Probably nothing.

Speaker 4:

Technically, the chargers are still in it, even though they ran like 10.

Speaker 2:

This is how bad the NFL season has been. Everybody's in it.

Speaker 3:

Carolina has two wins. They just got eliminated.

Speaker 2:

I'm actually not convinced that the quality of gameplay has been so shit that any of these teams may be back in the playoff race after this weekend.

Speaker 4:

I think it's because the NFC South was so up in the air the whole season which is still kind of where they have seven wins there.

Speaker 2:

Well, let's have a moment here.

Speaker 5:

No, that's the wrong one.

Speaker 3:

I look kind of fit. Where's my sad one?

Speaker 2:

Used to have a sad violin, so play that one, but that's gone off the soundboard. Jameson, we need to get you on this because you'd be I think you'd be good at this. All right, scott go ahead Pretty good, what's next?

Speaker 4:

Well, I thought you might want to see who is definitely going in to the playoffs Philadelphia Eagles Kansas.

Speaker 5:

City Chieftes.

Speaker 2:

Buffalo Bills Dallas.

Speaker 3:

Dallas.

Speaker 4:

Cowboys, we'll go. I'm sorry I was in the yes Cowboys, yes, 100%. Yep Niners. Actually they're going to get the buy, no doubt the Niners Yep. This is in order. First is, excuse me, niners, cowboys and then Lions are currently at the third seed with a 99% chance of holding it, and number four Buccaneers are currently holding it at 7-7.

Speaker 2:

Buccaneers surprised me a little bit this year. I think Baker has. So I've never been not been a fan of Baker because he seems like a cool dude, but he is a scrappy. He doesn't give up.

Speaker 3:

This fucking guy is just let's go. Well, when he went to the Rams last year, but when he came into one, that game they got hot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah, very impressive so is it just because he's and this is not a knock, no joke here. A little short, it doesn't help him, he gets the Doug Flutey. Like you really get the Drew Brees Like. If Drew Brees doesn't perform that way all the time, people are like we got to be, we might have to replace this guy, yep.

Speaker 4:

So with the with following the four division leaders right now, the Eagles, the Vikings and the Rams are five, six and seven respectively. Presently Eagles with a hundred percent chance to go in Vikes with a 50-50 shot. Same with the Rams On the bubble Sorry, one second, I'm wrong. Bubble Seahawks, saints Falcons and Packers. Packers has six and eight and so do the Falcons, so they're the least ones at this time. But the what's? The Seahawks and Saints are both seven and seven. Maybe they get it after last Monday night's comeback win against the Eagles. I don't know. Seahawks might have a little jam for them.

Speaker 3:

I don't know. Bold prediction says the Packers still may get somehow.

Speaker 2:

Let's hope it doesn't come down to a couple of push pushes to get the Vikings into the playoffs.

Speaker 4:

Apparently the Ravens are holding the top spot in the AFC with the Dolphins Like very close second Chiefs close third Jaguars not holding it very strongly in the fourth one. But you have the Browns, bengals and the Colts rounding out the last three spots at this time, with the Texans, the Bills and the Broncos on the bubble. The Bills being on the bubble at nine just shows how fucked their first couple of bad losses this year were.

Speaker 5:

You know they're going to make it.

Speaker 4:

Probably they have a good schedule, I think Chargers, patriots on deck, yeah, they'll be fine.

Speaker 2:

Riveting stuff.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, you bet, yeah Just wanted to give you a little thought process of where everyone's at going into the picks, David. That's all. I appreciate that, buddy. Thank you.

Speaker 2:

Anything else exciting last week.

Speaker 3:

Anything else exciting last week.

Speaker 4:

Exciting tough call. Uh, Keaton Mitchell got an ACL. He's out for the season, but no big deal there. Baltimore has 27 running backs.

Speaker 2:

Kristen Cavalieri has really been dragging, uh, jay Cutler through the dirt Really. Yeah, well, she's out. You know just sleeping with everyone and telling everyone how, how it's good to just to sleep with as many people as you can. She did say that, yeah, and Jay Cutler, I assume, is just kind of hanging out at home, can you? I don't even know if he says anything out loud, like he just kind of. Maybe he gives a slight head shake and this fucking puts a heater in his lips and just goes. Thank God I'm free of that one.

Speaker 3:

Yep, yeah, good for him, probably a lot of, a lot of work.

Speaker 2:

Also here a rumor that uh Tom Brady is uh potentially getting back together with uh no, no really, yeah, apparently went to her house one AM. Someone caught it on camera. Now it's possible this is just a parenting meeting, but what I am is typically reserved for what I like to call the buttock call. That's the witching hour. Man, yeah, that's typically the you up, you up.

Speaker 4:

You up, you up. I'm coming over. Eggplant emoji done.

Speaker 2:

All right, scotty is everything else on the newsboard. By the way, you're doing a bang up job tonight.

Speaker 5:

I want you to know that you're carrying this show.

Speaker 2:

You got the talent. You're killing it. You have the OJ Simpson award for you, man. Thanks, brother. Can we please do this? Can we come up with some awards? The OJ Simpson running back of the year award I've got a couple already.

Speaker 4:

The Johnny Manziel, we got the OJ Simpson. When you have a gambling, degenerate award.

Speaker 2:

Like who did that? Robert Kraft award goes to Dishon Watson for inappropriately Sleazyest owner.

Speaker 4:

Call him the big Sleazy. There's 32 Sleazy's owners. Can you imagine the debauchery that goes?

Speaker 2:

on when you get those assholes together at a convention.

Speaker 4:

Tom Brady and Magic Johnson are probably the least Sleazy's minority short share holders in the NFL. Yeah Well, they'll play a little game. Which one has it All?

Speaker 2:

right.

Speaker 4:

We'll go through these, probably quit pretty quick. I expect that today, I would assume this is 15 minutes max.

Speaker 2:

Let's go New Orleans at the Rams.

Speaker 4:

Ram's at the line four and a half I have picked. The Rams should be more entertaining than just a flat out win, but the Rams probably have more gunpowder to win it. Yeah, you said gunpowder.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to go with the Saints. This is tough.

Speaker 3:

I think it's going to be a good game. Yeah, take the Rams so I can go up on you on.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I will. I'll take the Rams Good.

Speaker 3:

You guys are making this easy.

Speaker 2:

If only I had another six or seven weeks I might be able to catch up to you. Who has AIDS? Cincinnati?

Speaker 4:

hopefully doesn't have.

Speaker 2:

AIDS is visiting Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4:

Cincinnati is a small line. I'm going with the Bengals because there's just no offense to speak of in Pittsburgh. I'm going with the Bengals because there's just no offense to speak of in Pittsburgh. Mason Rudolph is starting for the.

Speaker 3:

Steelers again the Tirey kill aspirations beyond football award.

Speaker 2:

We'll just put a cheetah on the top of the. Just a. Just a fucking dick and blurred legs.

Speaker 5:

Hainted like a cheetah.

Speaker 4:

What? Who's playing Cincinnati at Pittsburgh?

Speaker 2:

I'm going to go with the Bengals. I'm going to go with the.

Speaker 4:

Bengals. I'm going to go with the Bengals. What who's playing Cincinnati at Pittsburgh? I can pull out a win.

Speaker 2:

Listen, jake Browning. This guy sounds like a gun slinger Lawman. Jake Browning looks like it. I'm taking Cincinnati. I mean now that that one guy has been a bench for the rest of the year. Pittsburgh has no chance.

Speaker 3:

I mean the entire defense was the pickings is out or pick it Whoever it is he plays for and then he plays for Biscay was starting but he got bench because he's terrible. They shouldn't have started him.

Speaker 5:

Oh yeah, well, he was a bear.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to go with Cincinnati.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, cincinnati, scott, who'd you take?

Speaker 4:

Cincinnati.

Speaker 2:

Trick as Mark.

Speaker 4:

Speaking of trick as Mark's, the LA Chargers will be hosting the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 2:

One side of the guys. Bills, I swear to God if I say we talk about this game at all anymore. I'm done, Bills.

Speaker 3:

That was a Saturday night, christ, just so you know. Yeah, saturday night, all right.

Speaker 2:

All right.

Speaker 4:

We got Christmas Eve games and Christmas Day games, all that shit. Yeah, it's going to be a Christmas massacre. Indianapolis at the Atlanta Falcons Falcons have a slight line at home, but I've also seen it for Indianapolis, depending on where you're going, but it's kind of a 50-50. I'm going with the Colts on this one Ritter's getting benched, I know that. So Heineke will be starting for the Colt or the Falcons, but I just love that porn.

Speaker 2:

I like that guy. Who are you going with?

Speaker 3:

I like Heineke, who are you going with the Falcons?

Speaker 2:

I think so Okay, cool, I'll take the Colts.

Speaker 5:

Bang.

Speaker 4:

Well, the Titans are out of the playoffs, so we'll see if they have anything to play for against the Seahawks visiting. I've gone with the Hawks on the road. What do you think, david, I'm going to take?

Speaker 2:

the Titans.

Speaker 3:

You are Fuck it. Why not? Is Taney Hill back for him now?

Speaker 2:

Travis is still quarterback.

Speaker 4:

They're out of the playoffs at Dunning-Matter. I heard Will was out.

Speaker 2:

No, he's good. No, he's very much outing him.

Speaker 3:

I think he's a head-to-heal. He was injured.

Speaker 4:

He's in the concussion protocol, wasn't he?

Speaker 3:

I don't know. Either way, Seahawks win.

Speaker 2:

Well the energy just dropped off into the picks, hasn't it Just?

Speaker 4:

died David. We have the. Detroit Lions with the line of three visiting our Minnesota Vikings. I've gone with the Kitties on this one. Go Lions, tough call, but the Vikings like to fuck things up.

Speaker 2:

Is Jaren Hall going to quarterback or they're sticking with Nicky Mulls?

Speaker 4:

Mullins, I think.

Speaker 3:

I heard.

Speaker 2:

I think I'll take Davison.

Speaker 3:

The Lions. How do you not?

Speaker 2:

I'll take the Minnesota Vikings. It hurts me to say that. Let's hope it doesn't come down to a tush, bush.

Speaker 4:

In another shot. Well, there was a shitter of the week, but we didn't talk about it. Washington at New York Jets. New York Jets have the line three at home. The commanders are visiting. I've gone with the Jets just because of the defense. They want to play for Sala, maybe.

Speaker 2:

Have they fired Riverboat Ron, or is he still around?

Speaker 3:

They still around, still there.

Speaker 2:

I'm taking the commanders.

Speaker 3:

That's actually not a bad pick. I know that I'm gonna go with New York.

Speaker 4:

All right, jameson, can the Green Bay Packers get it done on the road four and a half line to them in Carolina? I think so Packers can do it Carolina, just what one, two, three Packers.

Speaker 3:

You know what? I'm not picking the Packers Only because every time I pick the Packers they lose. Okay.

Speaker 2:

Scott United.

Speaker 3:

Packers, I'm going Carolina in hopes of. Packers win Okay do a.

Speaker 5:

David type thing horrible pig.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and the Packers are gonna win because of it.

Speaker 2:

I was talking about my pick.

Speaker 4:

Cleveland visiting Houston. Houston should have Stroud back, I would guess, as they have the line at home two and a half. I've gone with the Texans on this one. I think this is gonna be I don't know what 24 point to 20 game. Pretty close.

Speaker 2:

Unfortunately for Houston, joe Flacco doesn't play for him. I'm taking the Cleveland Browns. That fucking team is scrappy and they find ways to win. I'm taking the Cleveland Brauens.

Speaker 3:

I like Flacco. Yeah, he actually looks pretty good Well.

Speaker 2:

Cleveland's a decent team overall anyway. They got a good defense, they got a game named chub Stefansky, another coach that we let go. By the way, that should have been our coach, because that's what we do. Are you a good coach? Well, we shouldn't have you here get the fuck out of here, go win someplace else. Big daddy, we're gonna hire Kevin.

Speaker 4:

O'Connell. It's a tough pick. I like the pick, david Go go for you, thank you.

Speaker 3:

Wait, who'd you pick Scott?

Speaker 2:

I picked the Texans. I just wanted you took stroud. Listen, you've been on stroud all year. Don't leave now.

Speaker 3:

He didn't even play last week. Hmm, that's why we didn't pick Houston last let's not think it through.

Speaker 2:

You're gonna. You want to take the the Tejans? I am gonna go with the Texans. Yeah, I thought you would. God, I'm gonna be up so much next week probably.

Speaker 5:

Only 12 behind.

Speaker 4:

Jameson, could you check out the Jacksonville 10 of Tampa Bay line? I got Tampa Bay one and a half, but I'd also seen Jacksonville as having a line.

Speaker 3:

Jacksonville at one right now.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry, but Taylor Jackson, hi Taylor, taylor, taylor Jackson Heineke.

Speaker 3:

Who's the guy for Jackson Taylor Lawrence?

Speaker 4:

that guy.

Speaker 2:

Taylor Lawrence.

Speaker 4:

Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 3:

Trevor. Oh yeah, how dare you.

Speaker 2:

He's Taylor. Taylor, I was thinking about Taylor lotter.

Speaker 4:

I mentioned Taylor Heineke for the Falcons this plan this week instead of Ritter.

Speaker 2:

Did they sign them? They sign them, they move them over to the Falcons.

Speaker 4:

He already was there. They just benched Ritter for the second time this season.

Speaker 2:

Trevor Lawrence is out this weekend, though. Right, he's not playing.

Speaker 4:

No, he played last week too. He had a, he had a lot of light.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna ask you a question because I'm a little confused. Who is playing this week? Tampa Bay?

Speaker 5:

I'm taking Tampa Bay.

Speaker 4:

You're taking that, I'm taking the excuse me the Jaguars myself in the Battle of Florida.

Speaker 2:

I'm taking Tampa Bay.

Speaker 3:

Buccaneers.

Speaker 2:

Yep. That's probably hungry or for it. Jacksonville is not ready for prime time. I thought they were.

Speaker 1:

They aren't who we thought they blew it last.

Speaker 2:

They are not who we thought they. Oh, the Dennis Green. They aren't who we thought they were. A word.

Speaker 3:

Arizona, yep.

Speaker 2:

It's got you. Are you catching all this? Because this is gold.

Speaker 4:

Whatever I don't know, listen and catch later, okay you write that down. Write it down. Arizona is visiting Chicago in a shitter of the week for to have to Arizona at home I'm going with the boys at soldier field. What do you think?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Chicago is playing hot right now. They've been the team. I've been riding them hard. I'm taking the Bears.

Speaker 3:

Do you say four and a half day Arizona at home?

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 3:

Chicago at home.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, the Arizona is not beating Chicago at Soldier Field. Yeah in December Chicago Fuck.

Speaker 3:

No, I tell fuck no bud.

Speaker 4:

All right in the probable game of the rain down upon you. They disappointed us last week Dallas in the game of the week, but they're visiting Miami this week. And this is smallest line I've seen for either team all season one and a half to Miami. At home I'm going with the dolphins. What do you think?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, here's the deal. The dolphins have not beat a good team.

Speaker 3:

I read back.

Speaker 2:

No, he's. I think he's on a location doing some porn.

Speaker 3:

Well, he was out last game.

Speaker 4:

So got a huge wiener. He'll, he'll be back again. This is already down.

Speaker 3:

This is a tough one.

Speaker 2:

What are you gonna go with James in Miami or Dallas?

Speaker 3:

Cowboys.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, tough goal. I got to take Miami just because I need to gain hold on. Where are you at, scott you?

Speaker 4:

know I'm with the home team on this.

Speaker 2:

I'm taking Dallas because, if anything, if I can finish second place, that's fine. I don't think I'm gonna be able to catch first, but I'm able to get Scott only one in front of them.

Speaker 4:

He's a I Rock and roll David.

Speaker 2:

Thank you.

Speaker 4:

And a shitter of the week. We have New England at Denver. Denver has a line at home.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna. One's taken the Patriots, come on. One, two, three Denver.

Speaker 3:

Broncos, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4:

Another one very similar here Las Vegas, at Kansas City Highline, to Casey at home, casey for everyone.

Speaker 2:

Can't yes, kansas City. Nobody's not taking that I.

Speaker 3:

I heard when yeah, sunday, sunday.

Speaker 2:

If the Raiders went all day was got to shave that head. They pull that off 63 points two weeks in a row.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, mohawk, he gets to shave a Mohawk. You know we look cool. Alright, sunday night we have the New York Giants at Philadelphia. Obviously, we're all gonna pick. Billy yes this is but the way they've been playing lately. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

They'll be fine. They're gonna be fine. It's the jet and.

Speaker 4:

I know I know it's that, I know it's the Giants you know and I know they just since.

Speaker 5:

Giants.

Speaker 2:

They're both playing the same. They're the same team. I mean, are we, are we? Clear about this New York one has a green uniform, one has a blue one. It's the same team. I'm not convinced to save money, they aren't just playing the same people. They lost all their quarterbacks. Here uh, if, if Eli Manning were to go on that team right now, the Giants win more games. Yes, it's a tenancy, better, but just put like right now boom. Yes, I hate you, I so much.

Speaker 3:

But, you know, so do I. So milk toast, he's kind of fun though.

Speaker 2:

Now yeah yeah, he's what he's more quiet.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, chad powers. Those eagles and Giants. I'll take the game over, yeah.

Speaker 5:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

All right, we got Baltimore at San Francisco. Oh my god, san Francisco has a line five and a half smaller than normal. That's what she said.

Speaker 2:

I've gone with the Use. Cut, indeed, every size, five and a half another wrong with that?

Speaker 4:

We, when we're above average, we're happy. Hmm, 55 total points for me. I'm going with the Niners at home.

Speaker 3:

Yep James. So what do you think? Well, niners for sure, let me do some math here.

Speaker 4:

David Niners as well. Nope 61 you go go on Baltimore.

Speaker 2:

I'm taking Baltimore in the upset against the 49ers. I think they're gonna shut McCaffrey down and you're gonna see exactly what Purdy's made out of and I will go. I will go. 24 points.

Speaker 4:

I was gonna say 24 points. I'm just gonna fucking go low.

Speaker 3:

Excuse me.

Speaker 2:

You guys are all going the moon.

Speaker 5:

I'll take. I'll take the underdates to good offense.

Speaker 2:

Not that it matters, because if I get this one right, it doesn't matter what the point total is, I win anyway.

Speaker 3:

Yeah that's fine. So I think we should make a new rule where, if you're below by 20 points, you don't win. Okay, fine.

Speaker 2:

What are you at? Scott 55 James. What are you at?

Speaker 3:

61?.

Speaker 2:

I'll do 14, I Will do 48, I'll take 48. Okay again, it doesn't matter though, because at the Baltimore wins I get, I beat you guys anyway. Yeah, that's it, that's it. That's what we got. What are they that? So that's the game is Is Baltimore, and that could be a preview of the Super Bowl. I.

Speaker 3:

Hope so actually. Yeah that'd be fun.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, by the way, I saw that under certain scenario, potentially, depending on how things play out, the Vikings could play the Detroit Lions three times in five weeks.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, we have four weeks.

Speaker 2:

We have no four, sorry, four weeks. We have two games with them left and then potentially the wild card.

Speaker 3:

Three weeks actually.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Well, fourth you caught the first four. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah so we could play them three times in the next four weeks, which would be really interesting.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't think that's happened before. No, I don't think so. Um, you know a team.

Speaker 2:

It might be the only reason I root for the Vikings to win this weekend other than the fact that I picked them and I need to. I need to jam.

Speaker 4:

All that feels like is a way to either spoil Detroit's good run or embarrass ourselves.

Speaker 2:

Yeah you know, I don't know. You know you feel what you feel, scott, all you can do is try to be a man with principles and navigate this wild and crazy world. Any other parting thoughts, scotty, any philosophies you want to drop on us? I?

Speaker 4:

Don't think so. If it's yellow snow, don't eat it. There's no snow Doesn't mean it's not good advice to say.

Speaker 1:

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