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IGNTR NFL Pickem Week 15

December 12, 2023 IGNTR Media Network Season 3 Episode 15
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IGNTR NFL Pickem Week 15
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This episode, we're serving up a hearty helping of football insights, beginning with a deep-dive into the somewhat lackluster victory of the Minnesota Vikings and Tom Brady's seismic shift from the Field has alters the course of the current NFL. We'll also tackle John Gruden's legal battle against the NFL, speculating on what this could mean for his coaching future.

Our conversation takes a sharp turn as we analyze the latest controversial call during the Chiefs vs. Bills game. We dissect the play and the ensuing reactions from the players and the coaching staff. We're also keeping you in the loop with the latest player injuries and surgeries, while taking a moment to pay tribute to the late Frank Wycheck. 

We round off the episode by sharing our predictions for the upcoming NFL games and analyzing potential outcomes. Get our take on games like Raiders vs. Chargers, Bengals vs. Vikings, Steelers vs. Colts, and Lions vs. Broncos. We'll also examine our predictions for Falcons vs Panthers and Packers vs Buccaneers, exploring the possible effect of a player's history against a team on the game's outcome. Expect plenty of football picks and banter as we also discuss the Vikings, Packers, and life in general. So, are you game? Let's dive into the football frenzy!

Ideas, rage, praise, dirt? Send it to igntrnetwork@gmail.com

Speaker 1:

Live from the igniter bunker deep, deep under cold spring Minnesota. It's the NFL Pickham Show, with your host, the two-time boatman of the year and 2023 cold spring Lions golf scramble champion Shucker, all-star, joined in studio by the big-winged Jameson Wall oh my god and remotely from their smoke-stained shed. Interim producer Scott Nyberg. Nfl analysis and inside information from across the league. Meant to edify and entertain. It's the igniter NFL Pickham show and it starts now. Touchdown. Are you ready for some football? We're ready for some football, baby.

Speaker 2:

Oh, ladies and gentlemen, a wonderful tickling sensation near my anus as we get into week 15 of the igniter NFL Pickham show. It's never going to end, this season is never going to come to a conclusion, but it is a reason, week after week, to talk to you, our loyal audience, joined of course, by Scott and a man with a wean so big he has to masturbate, laying down If he doesn't stand up, he'll pass right the fuck out.

Speaker 2:

Jameson Wall, gentlemen, happy to have you back back in lovely Minnesota. Thank you, nature, for waiting till I got back to give us the full force of the sleet, snow and cold weather. Ye son of a bitches.

Speaker 3:

How are you? It's been icy. You guys, you're making it through out there in the peninsula.

Speaker 2:

It's December 12th and I'm already done. The roads aren't great coming out here. I'll give you that.

Speaker 1:

Literally, I've had a week of winter.

Speaker 2:

I've been home a lot of week. Yeah, it's about right, not yet, not even. No, it's been just at what? Five, six days. I got back last Thursday, yeah, so I'm done already. Travel plans in the works, though, will be done in Tampa, florida, here in a couple weeks, and then off to Jamaica with my beautiful wife for eight, nine days of fun in the sun. Jameson not to be outdone has decided that he's going to be spending time, right, right, we got about a two or three day overlap Correct when you're going to be in the Bohemian nation, just south of Miami, and so I am considering using my considerable financial resources in charting a helicopter to Jamaica. We'll see how much he charges to actually land it, if anything just to do a flyover on the beach, just a wave by maybe flashing my dick, and then fly right on back to Montego Bay.

Speaker 3:

If you do this, if you do the flyover, jameson, you have to do the igniter logo this time for sure.

Speaker 2:

On the beach. Would you draw in the sand? Of course I'll take a photo of that.

Speaker 3:

Find some rocks, if not just draw it.

Speaker 2:

I think it would be good for the good for the feed, good for the gram, as the kids say. Well, I tell you what. Certainly talking about that far more enthralling than the three to zero performance. What a win, for the Minnesota Vikings cemented themselves absolutely amongst the best of the worst.

Speaker 3:

That was where my Vikings had just to piss you off, but I decided nah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Has there been, has there been, a 3-0 score in the history of NFL? Has that happened before?

Speaker 3:

I'm sure in the history it's the lowest score in a long, long, long, long long time it was.

Speaker 2:

I think 2-0 is probably the lowest score, but it does seem certainly amperpo of a season that has been pretty low in terms of quality. Tom Brady got out while he was getting good. Isn't it interesting? The one he left. The league went to shit, not only the Patriots but the whole God that's.

Speaker 1:

NFL.

Speaker 3:

The entire, even the Vegas Raiders where Tom Brady landed. We need a gruden back.

Speaker 2:

You lost your top two quarterbacks, with Rogers going out to be back though.

Speaker 1:

He's gonna be back Christmas by Christmas.

Speaker 2:

So both of them being gone is tough on the NFL Well and not to give away any secrets, but apparently Kirk Cousins is also coming back to save the Vikings and show up just in time to go. One and 14 in the playoffs.

Speaker 3:

Thanks for miss.

Speaker 2:

Miss me yet with Kirk smile and I'm like who know someone sent me a Kirk Cousins apology for him and I'm like, yeah, now you can shove that right up your butthole nope, they are unilaterally disparate.

Speaker 3:

No, thank you, it doesn't matter. But you were talking about we were talking about Vegas there. Real quick, I did read that John Rudin's lawsuit against the NFL Finally heads to Nevada Supreme Court on January 10th.

Speaker 2:

Oh, it's your popcorn ready, it's gonna go and I'm I'm so ready for this. Burn it down, john.

Speaker 3:

There's a Vegas insiders podcast where a Holden carpenter of sports illustrated was quoted as saying I'm gonna tell you, there's a lot of people who feel that Mark Davis, more than Tom Brady and Jim Gray, the person he trusts the most is John Gruden. Of course it is, and I'm hearing from multiple people around the league that if John were willing to drop his lawsuit, they believe the NFL would give him a passive nod to go back and rehire him.

Speaker 2:

Everyone keeps talking about John Gruden and quote I gotta be honest with you, this might be the time to take control back. If I, if I'm the boy out in Las Vegas, I'm siding with John Gruden all the way and I'm gonna let him go scorched earth just to bring some some some new blood in order. Burn the forest down. Fresh growth in the NFL and I get my the best coach I've had, certainly since probably John Madden.

Speaker 3:

It would suit the NFL as well, because they're only the older one. The reason this is being held up? Obviously they don't want it held out in open court so everyone can see the dirty, dirty laundry and who actually leaked the emails and all that hogwash. So it would. It would behoove them to just sweep it over the rug. Let him come back, but whatever.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean fascinating. By the way, what was that, the guy who wrote that article? What was his name? Holdingford.

Speaker 3:

Holding carpenter of sports. Illustrated as a person, he was he. This is. That was a quote from him on a podcast Vegas.

Speaker 2:

Center podcast. If you would allow me to make my point, sports illustrated just got a bunch of trouble for using AI generated content that does not look like a real person to me. It's probably not we're gonna have the fact that According to AI reporter.

Speaker 3:

I did read this on NFLcom, so who knows? It's all. There's now six people working at sports illustrated three of them are janitors.

Speaker 2:

There was that girl a few weeks ago that admitted to making up stories. Oh yeah, clarissa, clarissa. What was her name? Find bitty. That basically said, yeah, sometimes I couldn't get access to the coach. By the way, it is anyone really surprised? How many times have you heard those halftime reports? And it's all the same, we got to make some adjustments. We're not playing our game Like you can make that up every single time and it's applicable because it's so ambiguous, in vague. I completely believe it. Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2:

I mean it's a similar approach to what Scott does in terms of. Yeah, it's the same thing every week. Just you should give me a little more slack. Never we'll see about that Christmas miracle as far as I'm concerned. We still got one show before Christmas, by the way, it's true. All right, it's got to you the, the captain of the good ship lollipop.

Speaker 3:

Well, did I win? You want to hear? Ok, yes, you did, sir David Hinson winner of the week. Good for you. He's getting his chance to play.

Speaker 2:

I only play this when I win. You guys get no music, thank you. Did I win by a lot this time, or did I just barely squeak one out?

Speaker 3:

You kind of squeak one out yeah, never, but that's, that's the week though. I mean there were a lot of upsets this week. I mean the spread only had six, Correct.

Speaker 1:

Oh, what I get.

Speaker 3:

You had eight James and I tied at seven. Yeah, those upsets on Monday, really. We all picked the same game. So it would have been. You would have won either way, but ever.

Speaker 2:

They get the point total right.

Speaker 3:

You did not know they, we all were under. It was 43 points, I think, oh who had been to. So James, and then James, and had high. He had picked 35. Nice job. He would have got it If gosh dang proud yeah. I tried, but that puts you at one 14 for season long David, one 31 for Jameson, one 29 for me and one 28 for the spread.

Speaker 2:

Oof, that's good, that's good. How far back am I? Just a week. It's funny, I automatically did not. So 16 games A full week. A full slate of NFL games behind. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, believe in you, by the way. Oh, thanks, man.

Speaker 2:

Scotty went over to Jameson and Mackenzie's place to celebrate Carter's one year old birthday on Sunday 11 to 1 pm. Showed up Beautiful occasion, by the way, Thank you. We appreciate that Within five minutes I already had the Windsor and Coke in hand Put back.

Speaker 1:

First thing you ask me Where's the liquor. The first thing I said is there anything I can do to help.

Speaker 2:

That's true. Once I got that out of the way, we move on to the refreshments, your mom showed up. God bless her. No one else wanted to daydream with me but your mom, she. She answered the call so we had a couple of cocktails, talked to Jameson's new father-in-law and mother-in-law Fine, upstanding people. Jameson somehow fit 400 people into his house. That was way too many people.

Speaker 1:

No matter where I was, you had that many.

Speaker 2:

There was a lot of people. It was over 30.

Speaker 3:

No matter where I went, I was in the way, so If you ask me what I need if you come to my place next, I know exactly what I'll say. I'll say you know what? I think I have too much Windsor in this bottle. Can you help me out?

Speaker 2:

Hmm, yeah, well, for the record, windsor will do, but daddy prefers a whiskey in a glass bottle.

Speaker 3:

I got that too.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, did he like the present? Yeah, did he express.

Speaker 1:

He's been carrying around.

Speaker 2:

He's been carrying around the Winnie the Pooh. We got him from Disneyland. When I went to Disney, I only got two gifts I got one for Carter and I got a panda for my wife. I got nothing for my own children.

Speaker 1:

I got something for you.

Speaker 2:

You brought yourself home a lightsaber.

Speaker 3:

I got myself a lightsaber. Yeah, three gifts.

Speaker 2:

Nothing for the kids, though.

Speaker 3:

But he went by himself. If they had gone, there's no way of getting out of that.

Speaker 2:

Can you imagine the next time we go, though, it'll be an exercise of no, no, I mean, you've been here six times. What else do you need you eating? Just enjoy it. Yeah, be quiet.

Speaker 3:

You go to the one ride nobody wants or something like that, and it's like OK, let's go.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, since then, the people that I went with have already gone back once since we went and they're going back again at Christmas. Why annual? Pass holders, there goes a lot of Disney though it is, they love it. Though You've been to Epcot before.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

They've been to have you, have you.

Speaker 2:

Let me ask you a question, though have you been to Epcot and then drank?

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

And got boozed up and walked around. I was a middle schooler the last time OK. I have a feeling Walt knew what he was doing, because that place is like just one big walking bar Go down to the secret vault. Ask every place you go to has booze. It's visually interesting. There are no straight lines, Everything slightly at an angle which assists you when you walk around a little sauce. It is a great place to date Right and people straight lines.

Speaker 3:

Is that a thing? Huh, there's no straight lines. Is that what you said, epcot?

Speaker 2:

No, everything's kind of organic, rounded yeah.

Speaker 3:

Well, I get, the center is. I was just. I'd never seen this structure in person.

Speaker 2:

You never been to Disney Google it. You and I are going to go together next year. Oh, how about we make that a trip?

Speaker 3:

Just you and I. Yeah, well, that makes sense.

Speaker 2:

That might, that might Barry Scott's relationship One once and for all. Honey, I'm going to, I'm going to Disney with David.

Speaker 1:

At least not Vegas.

Speaker 2:

Why don't you get a one way ticket? Scott, you can't talk to me that way. She stabs me for good measure.

Speaker 3:

I didn't even do anything. David got me a birthday present.

Speaker 2:

We're going. I think it's really much to do an episode at Disney. Just go to one of the hotel or the nice places down. You get final download, boardwalk down by the water, set up the rig and just fucking record down there.

Speaker 1:

Perfect. Oh, I love this idea.

Speaker 2:

Wives left behind.

Speaker 3:

I don't know we might, I might, like you said, I might end up. It's kind of a throwaway out.

Speaker 2:

Back to football. So what? No, come on, man, you're not going to go. We all know you're not going to go. So that's your plan, man.

Speaker 3:

I don't know, not a big fan of Florida.

Speaker 2:

I'll go.

Speaker 3:

Florida's bad ass.

Speaker 2:

The whole goddamn state is Disney World, maybe you're not a fan, even close to true.

Speaker 3:

There's one part of the state that's fucking Disney World.

Speaker 2:

What don't you like about Florida?

Speaker 3:

It's, it's the Southeast, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I don't want to here I was looking forward to retiring down there. My good buddy, scott, comes down, spends a month with me in the wintertime.

Speaker 3:

That sounds fun. I can. I don't want to live in there, though I don't. I don't even know I've been to Florida a few times. I'm not really not keen on it.

Speaker 2:

On to Cincinnati.

Speaker 3:

On to Cincinnati. Well, did you want to hear, or you know what I did want to hear your opinion on the, on the chief's reaction to their loss the other night. Yeah, ok, first question you are, you are familiar.

Speaker 2:

I am familiar. I think that the entire sporting world was slightly taken aback by the, the whiny Yep Petschelins, stupid yeah Of one, patrick Mahomes, and there's a couple of points here that drove me nuts. I think all of us have had to smash the racket. Moment, right, none of us is perfect. Let let he or she or they, without sin, cast the first stone. I always say none of us live in a glass house, but I expect more out of a preeminent athlete who's supposed to espouse the virtues that we all look up to. Right.

Speaker 1:

He's been in the league for seven years. He knows you know better.

Speaker 2:

Right, you know better. You're not your wife, get your shit together. You're not your brother Get your shit together.

Speaker 3:

So the thing that drove.

Speaker 2:

Go ahead, scottie.

Speaker 3:

I was going to say. They're used to getting those calls like a Brady or a Rogers, you know. So when it doesn't get that little extra extra, here you go, guys, make sure you win the game.

Speaker 2:

when it doesn't happen, they really reacted the dude was off sides, but they threw the flag Before anything ever happened.

Speaker 1:

So right, it didn't affect.

Speaker 2:

It didn't affect anything. Correct, because nothing happened. He was a foot off sides. I mean he was in front of the goddamn center. Yeah, it was bad. I mean I saw the picture back into the left, back into the left.

Speaker 3:

That's what they're pissed and that's what they were pissed about Right, because they normally go, looks at the line, judge, and he says no, no, back up, but this time they didn't. They're like, well, that's still not his job. The fact that they do that is kind of a little silly anyway.

Speaker 2:

But looking at the play, it was clear to me that something was not, something was a miss, that it didn't look like a good formation. So, regardless, I believe this is a penalty and again, it affected nothing, except maybe their rhythm or their swag. I guess is an argument to be had here. But there was no complete. There was no complete pass, no bomb to the end zone. Well, they did score a touchdown on that play.

Speaker 3:

Well, it did get recalled because of that, so it did in the sense that, david means I thought you were saying that it was already a dead play.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 3:

But, Correct. But what? What James is insane is, of course, is that he chucked it to Kelsey, kelsey lateral, it back to Kaderius Tony, who originally could cause the foul, and then he ran it in for a touchdown, which was called back, of course, because his foot was over the line. Over the line. And that's free play, free play, except it wasn't a free play.

Speaker 2:

It wasn't a free play because he was, the formation was improper. Boo, fucking, who should happens? What I don't like is the is the whininess that went on and then at the end and listen, the Buffalo Bills have been on the receiving end of some shit this year. They're a fucking. What a rate of five, fifty six hundred team goes to give them the fucking hug. Right, these are guys that should be in alignment. They play golf together, for God's sakes, and they both kiss the ring of one, tom Brady. They know better.

Speaker 2:

And instead of just saying hey, tough loss, but I'm, you know, proud of your congratulations, he instead decides to take that as a moment to basically say it was a shit call. You know, I'm going to, in essence, call into question your victory and make sure to remind you that the only reason you won was because of a bullshit call and it wasn't bullshit. So there was a a petulance on display that I don't appreciate all that much. With Mr Patrick Mahomes, I expected more of them, but again, we're all human. I don't think this is the end of his career. It certainly shouldn't affect. You know everyone to make mistakes. I think we need to have a little bit of empathy. That being said. Let's try not to make that a habit. Patrick, we're all rooting for you.

Speaker 3:

It was a wake up call for them. The NFL, for God sakes, right? Yeah, they're not playing as well this season, so they're not, you know, seeing as much of that now, I think.

Speaker 3:

So play off bound, they will be, oh yeah yeah, they're just not doing it quite as well as they're used to. Yeah, same with Reed Andy. Reed had the same silly petulance and they both walked their statements back a bit. Today too, when I was reading that. So they've, they've all read the headlines and thought OK, I'm sorry, maybe we'll just stick to football.

Speaker 2:

When you start to like to smell your own farts, it's good to be, you know, brought back to reality. It's one of the things my wife does for me. She calls it keeping me grounded. It's important. We all need it, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Madison didn't practice today. Neither did Justin Jefferson, not that it matters. Let's see who else. Herbert's not going to be practicing for the rest of this season. He got surgery to repair his broken index finger, so the chargers will be without him for the rest of the year.

Speaker 2:

No, joe Flacco to back up the the Chargers. Those are Joe.

Speaker 1:

Joe Like Cleveland, by the way.

Speaker 2:

I was surprised that Flacco was only 38. I was convinced the dude was 48.

Speaker 1:

He seems older than 30. He seems like he's been around for 20 years.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so he has been.

Speaker 3:

Did pretty good. He also said recently that he tried out for inside the NFL and it didn't work out, so he thought maybe he'd play some football still hard to frame up the rest of the guys.

Speaker 2:

When flakko seven foot four, lot of wide, a lot of pan out, I'm rooting for him.

Speaker 3:

His Dracula for Halloween, I wonder.

Speaker 2:

I mean he's 90% of the way there.

Speaker 3:

He looks like he's got that We'll speak already pale.

Speaker 2:

Put the fucking fake teeth in for a little fucking catch up on the chin. You're out the door and two.

Speaker 3:

Well, there is some sad news. Someone from our back early football days that we used to watch back in the day the music City Miracle. Have you heard about that, jameson?

Speaker 2:

No, I don't believe so. It happened in Tennessee, mm-hmm, tell me one of those one of those Last minute end of the game.

Speaker 3:

Uh, crazy victories.

Speaker 2:

The Tennessee Titans pulled off a crazy victory talking about that kickoff, or they let her hold it all the way across the field.

Speaker 3:

Yep and I've watched it a million times and it still looks so close, you know. Yeah, in any event, frank Weicheck, who did Instrument that pass, he passed away at the age of 52 Felt on his home it is said. They said just a regular All-accident, nothing crazy, just really really sad. Seem like a good dude, old, good family, just a big accident.

Speaker 2:

You imagine it's me. You spent all that time on a football field getting your dick kicked in the dirt and in the end it's your wife asking you get the Christmas decorations, and that's how you fucking die.

Speaker 3:

That's too bad it's it's. It's the destiny for us all, I'm assuming his wife was involved.

Speaker 2:

That could be completely. Only had gone to Disney with his best friend got a rescued dog perhaps a Chihuahua that he didn't want. He went outside to go grab himself a cold one because he's just tired of it. He's had enough trips over. The dog smashes his head into the concrete. He's dead. Even looking at him he looks like an old-school football player.

Speaker 3:

He does, he's got that thickness, you know.

Speaker 2:

Take it. This is a real shame. This is a show for all ages. Be age-appropriate. I Damn talking about a winner. That's the real music city miracle for Scott.

Speaker 3:

I like how inevitably it was his wife's fault.

Speaker 2:

It could be channeling here.

Speaker 3:

Well, maybe there's something to be said for being a bachelor. Robert Sala said that Zach Wilson was outstanding and his success will return to the starting lineup. Last week you finish with 301 yards on 27 of 36. Passing with two touchdowns is his first 300 plus yard game of the season, third of his career. Not very impressive there, but Is outstanding 300 yards.

Speaker 2:

Is that the benchmark outstanding? 302 is a good game.

Speaker 3:

Good if.

Speaker 2:

I go outstanding. It's a little superlative for Zach Wilson.

Speaker 3:

It's good I'll stay, that's a fairy. Yeah, right, thank you, right, javis, for him the bars.

Speaker 2:

low for Zach, do you think? When he has a game like that, he fucking just immediately hits the bar scene looking for Cougars, like he's got something to hang his hat on my windy.

Speaker 1:

Hi I'm.

Speaker 2:

Zach Wilson. It's what he's known for Good for this.

Speaker 3:

I know this close Ah.

Speaker 2:

That's around like in the Coug the Cougar the Cougue.

Speaker 3:

The only playoff clincher as of last week here over this week, excuse me is the 49ers.

Speaker 1:

They're the only ones who one.

Speaker 3:

Coupled with the Green Bay loss to New York, they've clinched a third straight playoff berth.

Speaker 2:

Congratulations, brother. That's good. San Francisco good team. Still my favorite uniform and all the NFL, they got a good one. I love that thing and it has really changed. I mean, you know it's. It's pretty much the same uniform. Look back at the 90s. That was the same thing down here.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, young young, young, it's like, it's like the Packers, only better Mmm. Yeah, I think it's open to interpretation.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it certainly glints better in the Sun. I'll give you that. Yeah, packers look better in the winter. Yeah, I mean you throw like a Packers uniform on. I mean you look like you're you're ready to unload a truck, like you're ready to move something, something heavy, from A to B Stands to reason. Yeah, when you're, when you're fucking wearing that San Francisco 49ers uniform though.

Speaker 3:

Boy, oh boy, then you're dancing into history.

Speaker 2:

There Isn't that something? Mine some gold. I mean, wear that debating profile. You put that on a tinder grinder. If you like, wiener, you know I mean no you want some Pointless or proper stats today. I think you give them a, get them a mix of but give me the fucking gordettos on that. I want them all.

Speaker 3:

I'll just throw them out in a mix and you tell me if it is or not. Okay, okay, all right. Tylin Wallace records just the fourth overtime punt return touchdown in NFL history. Way to go, tylin.

Speaker 3:

The score was just the fourth via an overtime punt return, but the second this season. Xavier Gibson gave the Jets win over the Bills in week one via 65 yard return. Now, the only other times this has happened Patrick Peterson, 2011, against the Rams and chiefs. I've returned specialists at the time to Merrick Van over in 1995 against the Chargers. So slim company. What do you think?

Speaker 2:

Wallace plays for other Ravens. Yeah, that's right, it was the the revans.

Speaker 3:

Pardon me, yes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, listen I. It's always exciting when you can walk off in the, in the, in the Sudden death overtime. So well done, tylin.

Speaker 3:

That's a good stat, not a pointless one.

Speaker 2:

That's a good stat. Fourth time, I would have thought that would have happened more Mm-hmm Good ones.

Speaker 3:

All right, mr Irrelevant. Brock Purdy has completed at least 70% of his passes and seven consecutive games, and is just the fourth quarterback to ever do so in a single season. Joining Drew. Brees, joe Montana and Sam Bradford Wow with another such game in week 15. Purdy can tie Montana for the longest streak within a season.

Speaker 2:

Wow, well listen, they tried to paint him with that, the system quarterback brush, multiple times. I think that you can. You can stop that now to do the same thing with Brady for a number of years Clearly not the case. I think that Brock Purdy's biggest advantages seem to be a very even keel attitude Situation the game on the line, first play of the game. He stays calm, makes good reads, little mechanical and formulaic, but I mean, it's dependable, there's they don't see him coming right.

Speaker 2:

Well, again, they under underestimate, I think oh, sorry that you're talking about something else, absolutely, but you think you think at this point. Well, I was just gonna remind him it's a kid show again. It's got apparently just off the rails. Cook, but good for him and listen they. They lucked out. And as a Minnesota Vikings fan, all I can do is sit and wonder when, when Lord's gonna be our time.

Speaker 2:

All right, that's a good one is gonna give his shot next week Doesn't look like an NFL quarterback. He got three points. There's more than dobs. Yeah, oh, huge Performance, why not? By the way, we'll talk about the Vikings, but I would like to at least consider why was Jaren Hall not on the field? In what, in what universe, is Nick Mullins, the Starting quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings? Not gonna happen. So what are we doing? Are we just, are we just, inflating his trade value so we can get us something a little extra for him? Could we at least? Is that the three-dimensional chess move?

Speaker 3:

There were, just I don't know what they're doing. Yeah, there's that too.

Speaker 2:

Possibly you take that back now I do. It's a brilliant front office. First of all, they shouldn't have gone with Dobbs last week to begin with no and why you're not going with all along. So, by the way, also would like to put a new nickname for Dobbs past Trinat PST, because his time is that one's gonna stick?

Speaker 3:

I still put. I still like the disaster not or the catastrophe.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, listen, he's a disaster, not, and now he is the pastor, not he's the past, he's not the future. I think we can work on it. Let's get our igniter media team to to work up some some things there. Let's craft and finesse that one, scott.

Speaker 3:

So it sounds like the Brock Purdy was an actual Positive one. The way you were reacting, that was a good I like Brock Purdy.

Speaker 2:

Yep, good dude, all right. 70% is a good presented, so good for him. Midwest quarterback man them Iowa State guys.

Speaker 3:

How about? Puka Nukua now has 1113 receiving yards in his career. He joined Odell Beckham and Juan Bolden and Randy Moss as the only players in the Super Bowl era with 1100 plus receiving yards in their first 13.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, huge, but he's the only receiving threat they got.

Speaker 3:

I mean he's getting the ball all the time.

Speaker 1:

Cooper cups Not as good as he used to be like. So yeah, he's already done.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, that's that's. That's gone tits up. Congratulations, puka. Though, However, odell Beckham, oh God, randy Moss is the only elite receiver out of this entire list that was just given to us. Bolden. Good Odell Beckham, good Puka Nukua. I reserve judgment. Let's give him a couple of seasons, see where he ends up at. Randy Moss was a once-in-a-generation All-receiving talent. Certainly, I put him better than than Jerry Rice. I think Randy Moss is the best receiver that's ever played football.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I will give you that too, and the only thing that held him back was a shitty attitude. If he had if he had had a Jerry Rice's Workman like attitude and maturity, I think he breaks every meaningful record yeah, there's never a discussion ever again.

Speaker 2:

But even now, even with all this bullshit, he's still the most fun I've ever had watching anyone, and he certainly got his shit together. But Randy Moss, my god, was that fun to watch for a couple of years, wasn't it? Athletic freak, athletic freak. The other guy that I know that, look, he'd be running faster than everybody else, but look like he was trying half as hard. Yep, and he was gazelle his way down the field. God, I'm in the hands of that guy.

Speaker 2:

I Miss Culpeper, I missed that whole 98 Vikings team. That was fun.

Speaker 3:

I don't miss Culpeper, I miss his touchdowns, but other than that, sure or or hard to watch random cunning him and then of course, in the end, what?

Speaker 2:

what did us in goddamn field goal kicker Gary, and, as it always does, I will say it again it's shouldn't have been on, gary, at that point.

Speaker 3:

Yes, he should have kicked it.

Speaker 2:

No, it should had to be the one he missed of course that one, but it still should never have been, but it's, it's, it's divine and it's appropriate that a field go kicker that never missed, missed when we needed him to most by the way my favorite part about that's more Vikings than I was so despondent.

Speaker 2:

I went to the Mall of America to do some retail therapy and as and when I get there, I walk in at the all American sports bar. I don't know if you're, if you remember that you're too young to remember no.

Speaker 2:

I do remember that there's a guy right outside the entrance, surrounded by security, in an Atlanta Falcons Jersey doing the dirty bird on top of Vikings Jersey, and the whole crowd was ready to throw right off the top. They should have, they really should have. So, anyway, congrats. I know how this all it's a non sequitur, but congratulations. Pukka Nakua. It's a wonderful name. I feel like it could also be a verb and it was good. Talking about Randy Moss. Go ahead, scotty.

Speaker 3:

Interesting how we were talking about the quarterbacks and even the Cincinnati Bengals seem to find even under the best quarterback in the league.

Speaker 2:

Why didn't we get Joe Flackel?

Speaker 3:

Bengals, not Browns. Bengals backup quarterback Jake Browning has a 79.3 completion percentage over the course of his first three career starts, highest by any quarterback in their first three. Because it starts since 1950, the first year they started tracking that. He's the second quarterback since 1950 to complete at least 70% of his passes in each of his first three career starts. Joining pad Chad Pennington, who did so in the Jets Chad. That's not really a good one.

Speaker 2:

So listen, everybody else gets good quarterbacks and we get Josh Dobbs and Nick Mullins. Here's some better names. I'm happy for him Go ahead, sorry. In addition to that, he also has 856 passing yards in his three starts.

Speaker 3:

Browning and Justin Herbert are the only quarterbacks since 1950 with at least 800 passing yards and a completion percentage over the first three starts. So that's a good stat or bad, pointless, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Listen, good, bad and different, I think it just reminds us how impotent and ineffective this front office is at building a team that can withstand the high tides and the low tides. Scotty, you know what I'm saying. Pukinakua, is there a stat here that's not going to make me depressed? Probably not. Thank you, do you want to reread the Brock 31? Just bring her back full circle, do you like? Debo Samuel, I love.

Speaker 3:

Debo Samuel, I do it's cool. Debo became the second player in NFL history to total at least 100 yards receiving and a score via receiving and rushing. And back to back games Joining Eagles running back Timmy Brown, 1960. Useless stat.

Speaker 2:

That's the ninth inning doubles in the month of August. I don't like that one. I had to be. At least one Doesn't take away from Debo.

Speaker 3:

I'd gladly have one yeah.

Speaker 2:

Great, great player.

Speaker 3:

If you had him in fan, I'd say he's a great player. If you had him in fantasy you probably won both those games.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Should we get into some picks homies Would sure love to Thank you.

Speaker 3:

Well, the Las Vegas Raiders shall be hosting the Los Angeles Chargers. Vegas has the line by three. I'm going with the home team, especially without Herbert at the helm on the other side. What do you think?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'll be in a line. Wait a minute. Who's playing?

Speaker 3:

Vegas is hosting the Chargers. Raiders versus Chargers, oh God.

Speaker 2:

Who's the backup quarterback for the Chargers? It's not Bernie Kosar, is it?

Speaker 3:

No, let's see Chargers. No rush, scotty, take your time East and stick.

Speaker 2:

All right, I guess we're going to cut that bit short. East and stick. I'm going with the Chargers. You are yeah With a name like that. East and stick makes him would not want to pick them. No, that's the guy, because they're going to want to say it on Sports Center, which means someone's going to make this happen. Easton stick I don't know, he didn't do shit last week so I'm not picking him.

Speaker 1:

Well, he came off the bench with the Raiders.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to take the chargers Almost beat the Vikings. I'm going to take the Chargers, so am I the only one going Chargers?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, Last week he got it off all kinds of crazy stuff.

Speaker 2:

I'm not doing it again this week, except this time I need like four or five picks up on you guys, just so I can have. Basically, then I'm only a half or three quarters of a season away from catching up the way this season is going.

Speaker 3:

Why not? Ok, chargers for me, raiders for James. Oh, david, we got the Vikings. This is a game we called as a loss a couple of weeks ago. Cincinnati is hosting the Vikings three and a half to the home team. I'm going with Jake Browning and company. Don't trust the squad with Nick Mullins or not. Who is who is starting? By the way, they said.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, listen, I'll be taking the Bengals as well. O'connell says there's a good chance that Justin Jefferson will play. I don't know why he would at this point. I'm just terrified that, walking out of the tunnel, he's going to fucking pull a hamstring. Trade this man after the season and use some of that capital to build yourself an offensive line that can give whoever our quarterback of the future is some time to throw the ball. I said, I said it earlier Justin Jefferson is a commodity at this point and he should be sold to the highest bidder. Do not play this man. Sit him for the rest of the season and let him get nice and healthy to tantalize the dreams of some other NFL GM. I will take the.

Speaker 3:

Bans.

Speaker 2:

Casey, I'd say yeah.

Speaker 3:

So can you imagine.

Speaker 2:

Casey needs some Tyree Kill-Gown. Justin Jefferson would be a real good replacement. By the way, all praise be to Jordan Addison. That dude has played well.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he's a difficult chick.

Speaker 2:

And you know what it doesn't do no whining, no complaint. I think it's going to be an absolute clown. When he got drafted and he has been out there just doing his thing taking care of business. Yeah, you like people like that. I love guys like that. You know I loved what Barry Sanders give ball to ump referee. Go back to sideline. No celebration. No, I'm here to do my job. See you later.

Speaker 3:

Thank you for the money. No, I'm doing it. Keck stands and no rowing. Thank you, Barry.

Speaker 2:

That's what I like Little fun every now and then. I don't mind the Lambo leap. I think it's nice, but when there's a, they recover a fumble and every defensive player has a coordinated celebration in the end zone and they're calling everyone down, come, everyone, come down. We're going to sell it.

Speaker 3:

No, that's exactly like baseball. Remember doing the Lord of the dance in that movie.

Speaker 2:

No, one cares, you scored three fucking points. They get a bunch of people lined up and they do like a bobsled.

Speaker 1:

They don't need a bag and forth the best one ever was whether it was a smooth.

Speaker 2:

who did the net smooth? Who did the fucking Vikings? No, it was an opposing player. Did the love boat Remember that? He got the you have to touch down and he got down on the ground. He started paddling the love boat after the hole, the greatest fair.

Speaker 2:

One guy, one guy, maximum impact. I'm taking the Bengals. Yeah, I don't think we need to talk about the game anymore. The Bengals should take care of the Vikings. Mullins is not the future of this game. So and by the way, I just want to throw this into the universe, because that's the secret according to Conor McGregor. I believe it. Now you have to see it, believe it, achieve it. John Gruden. Coach of the Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 3:

We got Pittsburgh visiting Indianapolis. India has the line two and a half. At home I'm going with the Colts. It's going to be probably 20 to 10 kind of a thing. What do you think?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I'll take.

Speaker 2:

I'll take the. I'm going to take the Pittsburgh Steelers because why not? It's an opportunity for me to take one.

Speaker 3:

No quarterback.

Speaker 2:

No, neither of these teams is particularly good. Is Trubinski still playing for Steelers.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I'm not picking the Steelers Trubinski. He has games every now and then though. He doesn't do very well.

Speaker 1:

Every now and then, though, he does.

Speaker 2:

He's not consistent, but he has those weird flash games and I think the Colts are the perfect opportunity for him to put it all on display. I'm going to take the. I'm going to take the. The Steelers Could be right, but I'm not going to pick it, probably the Colts All right, I don't want to talk about this game anymore because it makes me sad.

Speaker 3:

Well, do the Motor City kiddies make you sad still? Are you excited? I don't know anything about them.

Speaker 2:

They have become the Minnesota Vikings. They're tremendously talented and wildly disparate in their performances. Yeah, it's not good.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we'll see how they do against the Denver Broncos. This weekend Detroit's hosting Denver. Four and a half five to the home team. I've gone with the cats at home. I don't know if I trust it, though I'm kind of in the same boat with you, david. I don't.

Speaker 2:

I don't like the line at four or five.

Speaker 3:

I like it more at like two or three. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'll take the Motor City kiddies as well. They should, they should win this one, but anytime they say they should, that's when they fucking decide to I don't know do anything but play quality football. But yeah, I, I, I'll go with the Detroit Lions. Fuck you, scott, for putting me in these positions. Yeah, anyone that loses to the Bears though it makes you wonder, right, cause that was not a good game last week but, the Bears are that team.

Speaker 1:

It's, you know right. You play them at home, they're tough to beat.

Speaker 2:

That damn field is horrible to play football on when the defense is, do so well, because it slows off and says straight down Yep, I Don't know what to do. I'm gonna go with the Broncos just to be an ally here. I think so the bronchies, yep.

Speaker 3:

I have a couple ups, that's right.

Speaker 2:

Hope is all.

Speaker 3:

All right. Speaking of the Chicago Bears, they are going to see Joe flacco and company and Paul Brown, stadium Three and a half to the home team. I've gone with the Browns. I believe in flacco this week. How about you guys?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, listen. Reminds me a lot of the replacements with Keanu Reeves. Great football if you've never seen it.

Speaker 3:

I watched that last month.

Speaker 2:

It's great Joe flacco is is Keanu Reeves. I think that the line is actually disrespect to Joe flacco. If I'm him, I'm much like Rocky. For right before the Russian training montage, when Sylvester Stallone's character, rocky who I'm sure you're familiar with, jameson I am tapes a newspaper printout of Dolph Lungren's face, yvonne Drago, I take the that three and a half point spread, I put it on my mirror at home, I get myself all psyched up and I dropped 21 points on the shit-ass team.

Speaker 3:

So I'm gonna take the brows. He's just doing fucking push-ups on his knuckles.

Speaker 2:

Doing the dishes. He's just extra animated doing chores around the house holding the shit out of that laundry. It's still useful. Well, empty in the Dyson with authority, because you know he's doing work around the house. He's in that stage of his life. He's 38.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, it's got.

Speaker 2:

A family has to it's got enough money in the bank to last him several lifetimes. But he's commendable because he won't pay everyone else to do that He'll do it himself. Yeah, joe. No, no, that's a Midwest guy. Yeah, why would I? Why would I waste this money? I could do it myself. I have some horses all back. You want to know something he does it not only to save money, but it keeps him rooted.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and grounded, good for him so his head doesn't get to big and him and his wife are fighting about nothing bullshit. He doesn't need it.

Speaker 3:

They fall and die when you're 52.

Speaker 2:

Don't need that, don't need to. Why check yourself? Oh Shit, you just made a term why check yourself before you rigged, erect yourself. Oh, that's good. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 3:

Cleveland for you, james, and I thought you can take that if you like.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, I'm gonna go Cleveland. Thank you, good for you, joe flacco. I got, by the way, got a lot of friends that I know that our Cleveland Browns fans a couple people I work with, so go Go Cleveland.

Speaker 3:

Well, our headline boys, kansas City heading to Newark, england, they got a line nine and a half because New England is still terrible, no matter how, how doggish the Kansas City chiefs are playing, I'm going with the chiefs here, guys, you too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I will be going with the chiefs, though Nothing would make me happier than for New England to beat Kansas City and Really put Pat Mahomes and Andy Reed into the position where they got to eat some serious fucking crow. That would be crazy.

Speaker 1:

It might be good for them, but that's not gonna happen.

Speaker 2:

No she's gonna win this one handedly. Mm-hmm Again for some nuggies.

Speaker 3:

Atlanta visiting Carolina has the line three Falcons, as I assume you will too.

Speaker 2:

Jesus Christ, I don't care. Falcons, this could be a shit of the week, right, just can we move on it's at least. Yes, I have it in there as the shit, or Falcons for sure. Oh no, I had their.

Speaker 3:

Vegas. Actually, I wrote really all the rest as well.

Speaker 2:

But the Falcons are leaving their division right now, aren't they who?

Speaker 3:

cares. Six and seven, yeah them and Tampa Bay are kind of battling and I was an.

Speaker 2:

I was the best Slugger and the Eastview baseball team, which is an accomplishment, until you consider that most of the guys I played with dads were in prison or drug dealers right East they came from broken homes. In the land of the blind. The one-eyed man is what? Scotty King goddamn right who? We taking Falcons, falcons across the board. I don't care about this one.

Speaker 3:

Their division rival, tampa Bay, is going to Jameson Green Bay. Green Bay has the line at home three and a half. I'm going with the home team in December here, absolutely gonna see a few Lambo leaps, but it's. I'm thinking it'll be close, ish, like within five.

Speaker 2:

Who you taking Green Bay. You know I'll be going to Montego Bay in February.

Speaker 3:

A lot of bays About a nothing to do with each other, but I think the Tampa Bay is a scary good team.

Speaker 2:

They're there the kind of under the radar, effective, week to week, always in it. I'm taking Tampa Bay at home. I think those cannons are gonna fire. Tampa Bay is not planning home, it's Green Bay at home. Green Bay, is that their home? Yeah, yeah, can they still fire the cannons and Tampa Bay of someone scores? Or they save on the ammunition? If you pay for People watching at the stadium, how great would it be if you were so rich. You call the Tampa Bay front office and you're like listen, I know no one's gonna be there, but I got clients coming in. We just love nothing more than whenever Tampa Bay scores, just fucking fire off them them six inches, let them run all day long. I'm still gonna take Tampa Bay. I think they're gonna win. Well, I was disappointed. The Packers lost last week.

Speaker 2:

It was the first time they've lost, indeed, in December, for 16 weeks, or 16 games in December, because they don't have a gunslinger in town anymore, I know, but that was an impressive stat there was a second second longest streak in December, but I expect them to rebound this week. It was a tough loss last week and I think they're gonna learn from it, so I would take them over the buccaneers. Yeah, you would.

Speaker 3:

Ya, homer See some of those Lambo leaps. All right, another divisional matchup. I didn't see whether or not Stroud was going to play, but Houston is going to Tennessee. Tennessee is the line at home, two and a half probably fresh really big old win against Miami last night. I am going with Tennessee on this one. I'm not sure if Houston has enough they should and mainly here's based. I'm basing this 100% on Derek Henry because he always, always scores against the Texans, and usually to.

Speaker 2:

James said, I'm gonna use my privilege as host of this show to ask you who you're going with. Well, I think the Texans are gonna be without Stroud and they're without their top two receivers, so I can't choose them anymore, as much as I like to. So I'm gonna with Tennessee. I would also like to exercise my rights as Host of this show to do a conditional pick. I will choose the Houston Texans on the condition that CJ Stroud is playing Scotty. Is that fine? No, I'll allow it assuming what?

Speaker 3:

that if he isn't that, it might actually changes to Tennessee. This might be the way I'm thinking about this now, if I can get Scotty signed off on this.

Speaker 2:

It's no.

Speaker 3:

It's no way to win every big today. It's locked in. I.

Speaker 2:

Feel bad for y'all, do it. He's 16 games, blind Scott.

Speaker 1:

I was really on board with.

Speaker 3:

All right, fine with the are you kidding me? Don't you dare give me that.

Speaker 2:

This is just a test. God dang, y'all are push-overs. I'm going to take Tennessee, tennessee, only Tennessee. Oh, that's a case. Should have called this the 30 cast.

Speaker 3:

Dude levis come back. Win on Monday night football, that's pretty impressive.

Speaker 2:

He's a boot too. Did will I didn't watch the game. Do will win it or did the dolphins lose it? We'll want it both. He won it.

Speaker 3:

It's a little bit of both, but they definitely want themselves. Tyreek was hurt and a lot, and you could see it you imagine will.

Speaker 2:

Levis young guy, handsome guy, huge contract in Tennessee. Lot of good-looking, good spot to be females down there, I think. I think my amy got a lot of this into here, cocky, they read the defense.

Speaker 3:

Really let him just walk down and score that Scotty any given Sunday, am I right? Al Pacino Speaking of Miami. They should be hosting their division rifles, the New York Jets. That's not a rivalry, I know they. I've seen eight and a half, ten and a half. I'm going with the jet or the the excuse me, the dolphins.

Speaker 2:

Of course we all take dolphins. Yes, I'm not not rooting for Zach Wilson, so yeah.

Speaker 3:

Go Zach, outstanding. We have all the New York Jets. Excuse me, the New York Giants Jameson will be going to New York, new Orleans, after their visit to Green Bay. It's 6 to the New Orleans Saints at home. I'm going with the Saints. I know the giant Giants have been more impressive lately. We'll see it. I want to see it another week in a row. I.

Speaker 2:

I hear the Benye is at Cafe Dumont or just tourist trap. The real Benye's that you want are in town for the locals.

Speaker 3:

That makes sense.

Speaker 2:

That's what I hear. I'm gonna take the Saints. The Giants are kaka. Both of the teams that play in that stadium in Jersey, rutherford, if I remember correctly, are absolute shit. East Rutherford, yeah, east Like in.

Speaker 3:

South.

Speaker 2:

Rutherford, the way that they're playing Way down. I'll take the Saints.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, the Saints Jamison, you two.

Speaker 2:

I don't like the Giants, but I'm gonna pick them this week.

Speaker 3:

Horset. I like that for the Bold move. Pepper, I got an upset picker too here. All right, washington visiting the LA Rams. Rams are looking good lately. Washington's fresh off their last bye of the week, rams. The last bye of the week. Yeah, you're going Rams, I'm going Rams too. Nothing really to talk about so much Rams it up.

Speaker 2:

It'd be great. Scott's just hyping up a match between like Mike Tyson and a nine year old, all right, coming into the school yard. Fiasco 2023. Jesus Christ, why are we doing this? This kid's going to die.

Speaker 3:

They did that in the 90s. His name was McNeely oh Hurricane.

Speaker 2:

McNeely bro. Come on, bro, get the shit. But you know what. He had respect for Mike Tyson. So at the end, Tyson didn't. You know what he said. You remember that Mike Tyson beat the shit out of him because Hurricane McNeely wasn't a complete douchebag. You know what he said. He goes listen. Anybody that gets in the ring and does this they have respect for.

Speaker 2:

Give him a big old hug and let him go on his way and he got a little payday out of it, so hopefully he parlayed that into a construction business. That's a win-win.

Speaker 3:

I'd let Mike Not the shit out of me for a couple of years.

Speaker 2:

No. Knowing where McNeely came from, I assumed that it went right into cocaine and some stone wash jeans. Guinness, Guinness. What do they wear? Modicles?

Speaker 3:

Speaking of beating up on the underdogs, San Francisco has the line three and a half visiting Arizona.

Speaker 1:

Going with the.

Speaker 2:

Niners here 13 and a half 13 and a half You're fucking with the spreads guy 13.

Speaker 3:

I said 13 and a half. You said three and a half. I'm sorry, 13 and a half.

Speaker 2:

We're not talking about James and Spina's flaccid.

Speaker 1:

Flaccid. I said Flaccid Around.

Speaker 2:

We'll take the San Francisco 49ers. I'm going to just answer for you, no contest. Yep, I'm your agent, I won't steer you wrong.

Speaker 3:

All right and what I think will be igniter's game of the week. We have Dallas visiting Buffalo. Buffalo has a slight line at home Two, two and a half. I have gone with a slight upset going with Dallas on this one. Their offense is just churning out too many points, no, too many points. And Buffalo they got up 20 last week. Not that much, no.

Speaker 2:

When do they play?

Speaker 3:

Sunday afternoon. Oh B, by the way, after the Thursday game we have the three games I did after. That are Saturday Minnesota, cincinnati, pittsburgh.

Speaker 2:

Indianapolis and Denver at Detroit. Let me take a look at something here. I'm checking the weather. This is going to have everything to do with my pick.

Speaker 3:

Sunday. It's a good point. Dallas usually plays inside. Well, this is definitely play better.

Speaker 2:

It's a wonky winner 48 degrees projected on Sunday. I'm going to take Buffalo. I don't buy the Dallas hype. I think they're paper lions.

Speaker 3:

Really.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think they're bullshit, they're not going anywhere, not to the playoffs.

Speaker 3:

That's when they'll fall apart.

Speaker 2:

Buffalo's a good team. Josh Allen can drop 20, you know, fucking 28 points by himself.

Speaker 1:

I agree, I love that, I love it.

Speaker 2:

Even with a terrible season. I don't think anyone disagrees that Buffalo's a good team, but I do think Dallas is the team to beat Super.

Speaker 1:

I'm going up one more.

Speaker 2:

And I don't think it's two points to the Buffalo. I think is not right. This should be in Dallas' favor. Wow Is not an upset. Good, looking forward to getting one more on you. I may get three or four this week. Go ahead, you guys, both taking Dallas. You can't have a wrong pick on that one, though, david, so good for you. I hope you get it.

Speaker 3:

No, you don't, I want it. For Sunday Night Football we have Baltimore Ravens with the line 3 and 1 half going to Jacksonville. Lawrence is back. Still. He's still missing Christian Kirk, but everyone else is pulling their weight. Etienne isn't running that well, I don't know. I'm going with the upset, with Jacksonville here taking the Jaguars at home.

Speaker 2:

Jamie. So what are you going to do? Well, after Jacksonville lost last week, I don't think I'm going to pick them again. So I'm going Baltimore. I will also join Scotty. I think Jacksonville is going to pull this one out. Fuck, Fuck. I won the last two weeks in a row. What's your problem?

Speaker 3:

You won last week, and last week was the silliest week we've had, and you only had eight picks right.

Speaker 2:

Still one Dub's dub Monday night.

Speaker 3:

So far, we'll close out week 15, with Philadelphia having the line 3 and 1, half a little lower than it would have been a couple of weeks ago at Seattle. I am not going with the Seahawks against Philly. Even though I don't think it will be a boring game, I think we'll see a nice high score going with Philly on the road. 52 total points.

Speaker 2:

I will be taking Seattle I think it's going to be a touchdown or a field goal type game and I'm going to go with 35 points Low scoring. You don't have a lot of faith in Philadelphia, do you?

Speaker 3:

He just likes being low, by the way.

Speaker 2:

Daniel Tosh. If you're not listening to his new podcast, it's fantastic, I will. I'll listen to it tomorrow. He's got these four episodes in now. He just interviews people. It's very funny. But basically said that they averaged three yards per attempt with the tush push, so what they should do is just tush push the entire fucking game to prove a point All the time Just over and over again From one. Just I mean it'd be like a fucking 14, 20, maybe because it would take him forever to get down there.

Speaker 2:

But Jack Tush pushed the whole fucking game If you can't stop it right, Keep going. Go ahead and ban it. So yeah, anyway, that was my point. So I'll be taking the Seattle Sea Chickens Jameson. I'm going to go with the Eagles on this one. The Eagles have had a tough couple of games here lately, but they've had like the toughest five game stretch that I've ever heard of for an NFL team.

Speaker 2:

So I think they're going to rebound eventually and get back to the way they can play, and I think this game will be the start of that. So these are both base.

Speaker 3:

Point total Jameson.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, I got to pick that. Let's go with 28 to 14, 42.

Speaker 3:

It is the answer.

Speaker 2:

This is the way. All right, pretty good Dang, good show. What do you think of that one, scott?

Speaker 3:

I think you're just yammering right now. No.

Speaker 1:

I'm just kidding. But, he's good at it, so I literally just did some of the questions.

Speaker 3:

What do you mean yammering?

Speaker 2:

Dang good show. What did you think of that one? And I'm getting just a Spursions cast. This is why I don't ask any questions, I just go.

Speaker 3:

I'm. I'm sorry, I've been a little acidic tonight for some reason.

Speaker 2:

What's going on I?

Speaker 3:

don't know.

Speaker 2:

I said some reason not a specific reason Text his wife and ask him what's going on. Show he's. Gives me a straight answer. She'll tell you yeah, I'll text when I'm done with this show.

Speaker 3:

He's not getting laid. That's his problem.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, you should work on that. Yeah, yeah, once there was a man, once there was a man. Gentlemen, as always, I appreciate spending this time with you. Week to week. Minnesota Vikings are trash, continue to be trashed the laughing stock of the NFC North, and that includes the Chicago Bears. So that's what we're all dealing with here. Jameson hates the Vikings so much that even from so far away, the confines of Lambeau Field, he's a Packers fan and no one can blame him. They're not even mad that you're a Packers fan, they just. They look at you with jealousy and envy and I got to tell you I've looked at color combinations of green and yellow and I'm starting to think about it.

Speaker 1:

Do I make?

Speaker 3:

the change Packers.

Speaker 2:

I think the only thing that would like put would propel the Vikings to win the Super Bowls if I converted over into became a Packers fan.

Speaker 1:

Then they would do good. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

But in Statenius. They become a better hunter, a better lover. You like better cheese? Yeah, I fucking, I can eyeball best brats in the package. Not those ones, certainly not those ones.

Speaker 2:

We'll talk about it as a representative of the Green Bay Packers. Maybe you can walk me through what this looks like. We will discuss. Perfect Gentlemen, I appreciate you have a wonderful day and remember everyone in this wild and crazy world. Turn off the news, shake a guy's hand, have a good time, be empathetic and try not to rush to judgment and Jesus Christ, throw your cell phones in a drawer and enjoy time with your family this holiday season.

Speaker 1:

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