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Live from the Igniter Bunker deep deep under Cold Spring Minnesota. It's the NFL Pickham Show, with your host, the two-time Boatman of the Year and 2023 Cold Spring Lions Golf Scramble Champion, shukr Allstar, Joined in studio by the big-winged Jameson Wall and, remotely from their smoke-stained shed, interim Producer Scott Nyberg. Nfl Analysis and Inside Information from Across the League, meant to edify and entertain. It's the Igniter NFL Pickham Show and it starts now. Are you ready for some football? We're ready for some football, baby.
Speaker 2:Oh hey, oh, it's the Igniter NFL Pickham Show. Scotty, what week is this?
Speaker 3:Technically we've 13, but it'll be our 14th on the air this season.
Speaker 2:You got to get that cleaned up for next season. I procrastinate firmly. At this point I'm not in the mood to change anything.
Speaker 3:I'm taking it as it comes.
Speaker 2:I'm in the hammock. Thank you for clarifying, though. Thank you, oh, you're welcome For the right or wrong.
Speaker 2:this is where we're at and this is what we're doing. Welcome to the Igniter NFL Pickham Show week Scott 13. Week 13. Mediocrity on display this weekend and absolutely wretched week of football. I actually realized you know, we had these conversations the last couple of weeks around, like AJ Brown setting the record through the first six games in the NFL season. I realized that stats like that were never an issue before, because people used to actually have records that mattered, yeah. And now, because it's we're firmly in the camp of mediocrity. We're now celebrating AWS stats.
Speaker 3:I'm going to have one a week, I think, in a segment coming up later this season, just for you. I kept them specifically out this week of the week. I know how much you hate them I hate them. So I think I think one one a week. We'll just cherry pick as they do. One stupid thing for you to fucking hate.
Speaker 2:Can you imagine if, overall, you're just a shit husband, but then when your wife busted your balls, you'd be like hey, honey, you want to know something? I was averaging eight dishes an hour last month when I did them. Remember that. Isn't that an accomplishment we're celebrating? Can I please?
Speaker 1:pull up the microscope. It's not going to sell Trees, not for us baby.
Speaker 3:It's just not going to sell at all.
Speaker 2:It's not going to sell, quite possible, just as an exigent, an exigent circumstance. I'm getting older and less patient.
Speaker 3:Winter's also going to happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, very cold and cold spring it was such a lovely November up until just a couple of days ago.
Speaker 2:Now we got a dusting of snow, and it's the cold wind. It's cold and it's windy not good. We were lucky for a long time though. Yeah, you know, it's funny. We thought that, before we we get into it all, that the Minnesota Vikings would struggle at a soldier field where the elements can be quite abusive, but it turns out within the friendly confines of the climate controlled US bank stadium.
Speaker 2:Even more inept Minnesota Vikings never know what you're going to get with them Any given Sunday, any given Monday. Super duper, I'm not thrilled to be here. I love talking with you too, but right now, if football were a stock guy, what would it be? It'd be Bitcoin, right. You think that bad. It has some value, but it's dropped precipitously unreliable. Yeah, by the way, I've got a bunch of people sending me text messages acknowledging how shitty this team is, but still continue to go on Facebook and sing the praises of Kevin McConnell. It's so weird. They just, they, just. They just don't have the ability to be honest, or because they've already kind of drawn a line in the sand of this ardent Viking supporter that they simply can't backtrack. What do they like about them?
Speaker 3:Is this a Santa Claus situation where we just won't acknowledge because the younger children can't take it?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:We're two Minnesota nights, I mean it could lead to all sorts of questions. What do you really believe? Has anything you've ever said to me been true? All of a sudden? Your, your, uh, your credibility is a block of Swiss cheese. Scott had the deeply existential crisis, cheese grommet and we couldn't have that. So, anyway, it was a hell of a week of football. I remember none of it because it's also coincided a little bit with Thanksgiving and Thanksgiving leftovers. A lot of trip to Fenn was consumed, a pie. Do you have multiple, multiple Thanksgiving's?
Speaker 3:It did. We had one of my brothers, that was very good.
Speaker 2:He, uh, of course complained about how badly he made the turkey, long before we ever got a chance to eat it. But it was a lovely turkey, a nice Brian, good flavor. I prepped and cooked two turkeys on the smoker about 205 super smoke for about four hours, cranked it up to about 310. Put some butter on it, covered them up with tinfoil at a certain point. Once they got nice and golden brown, let them rest for an hour and it was falling off the bone.
Speaker 3:Sounds good. Brought that over to my similar.
Speaker 2:Well, listen, you interrupted my story. Please tell me about it.
Speaker 3:I did. I thought you were done with the, with the prep explanation, please do. I'm interested. I don't know how to go on. I've lost it. You put the butter on it. You've covered it.
Speaker 2:Brought it to the in-laws, consumed the hell out of it, and then my mother-in-law, the wonderful, beautiful woman she is, took the carcass and made me homemade turkey wild rice soup. That's a win.
Speaker 1:I think I gained 40 pounds this weekend.
Speaker 2:So hope everybody had a good one. Scotty, the highlight of your, of your Thanksgiving holiday.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we went to the in-laws on the Thanksgiving day proper. That was a good time, oh yeah. They're in a while with the. You know the jobs and living up here, it's more difficult and silly for me to get down to see them. We do the show on Tuesday. The folks, uh they host my family on Tuesday night for Taco Tuesdays mostly. So this is the first time I've been there in months.
Speaker 2:How does that? How does Thanksgiving politically go for you? Are you one that can kind of bite their tongue, or do you sit in silent judgment over the Tom Fulery and Skull Duggery that that happens?
Speaker 3:I pick and choose my battles. Are you judging?
Speaker 1:A little bit a little bit of both.
Speaker 3:Actually, it depends on who I'm speaking to. I will share everything they need to hear if I feel like it or if it's safer. Cause it is kind of a you know, I know war zone, so to speak, in my head. I don't want shit to start, yeah.
Speaker 2:On that note, you want to tell us about what you don't like about your mother-in-law.
Speaker 3:I love my brother-in-law. The only thing I don't like about her is she's in bad health. I'd like it if she'd been better health.
Speaker 2:Remember what I just said about Vikings fans privately saying things to me but then publicly saying something?
Speaker 3:That's not nice Zero credibility.
Speaker 2:Smart move, though, to be fair though.
Speaker 3:Self preservation. To be fair, though, peg has very little negative qualities that I experience at all. So what about Bruce Bruce?
Speaker 2:has got to do something that drives you nuts Not really you know what he's really stoic.
Speaker 3:Why am I asking you?
Speaker 2:You've been a happily married man for almost two decades. You have recently inherited a new family. I mean, now is the. You have a kind of the new car smell. You just got that car off the lot. Now is the time. Anything you want to publicly vent about? No, I love the new family, I love the new family and I'm going to keep it that way. So I will say no more.
Speaker 2:What a bunch of men's candidates we have in this podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, nobody's taken the bait. All right, scotty, catch me up. What do I care about this week? What happened that I give two shits and a half about?
Speaker 3:Well, I think two things. One you didn't lose any money, that's, that's always good. I didn't lose money, no, nobody bet last week, so that's positive. Sorry to take a window into your sales smart ass why?
Speaker 2:would you even say that, scott, I?
Speaker 3:know I'm just being an asshole, but the good news is the other actual good news is you won. David was winner of last week. Week 12 belongs to David Henson.
Speaker 2:All right, hold on here. I wasn't prepared for all this.
Speaker 3:I'm sure you weren't after the last few seasons. One moment.
Speaker 2:Few seasons Feeling far between these victories.
Speaker 1:And then we're going to Washington DC to take back the White House yes, there it is.
Speaker 3:Yes, howard Dean, that's right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, go, we won. This week Should be about I don't know what, but maybe this time next year that I win again. So I'm going to savor this as the, the tasty little vitals. How, how much did I blow you guys out? Are you so far behind? I can't even see in the, in the, in the rear view anymore.
Speaker 3:David James and Scott 11, 10, nine.
Speaker 2:God damn man, I beat you guys.
Speaker 3:I don't beat you by much, however you would have taken away, even if we had tied you would have won the tie breaker.
Speaker 2:I told you this is going to be a slow, low scoring game. What did I pick for a point total?
Speaker 3:17. I was close, right, you were close. Yeah there, yeah, right there.
Speaker 2:What did it end up being 19? No 20. 22. 22. Okay so it was five of that that that the miracle touchdown that the Minnesota Vikings decided to give away in the? No, it wasn't a touchdown, I'm sorry, it was the the bomb pass over the middle that converted and got them down the field for their fourth field goal. It is always the first time, the first team to to win a game with only field goals this year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the Chicago Bears always adds a little insult to injury when you lose to a team who only has field goals. I mean, I don't like. What would be the equivalent of that? Like what would you compare that to in real life? That's something that's that kind of disheartening and embarrassing.
Speaker 3:It's like making a 1% profit. It's a horrible one Interesting.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just the first thing that came to my head. I don't know. Thank you, thank you, to say to that. David, I agree that was awful, but the Eberfluss's defense he's a defensive guy, right, which is why their offense stinks, it seems. But their defense in the in the Chicago is pretty good and ours has really come into our own in Minnesota. So those two things suggest a very low-skill game, like you predicted, and it came to, came to pass. Also, also, justin Fields and DJ Morick can fuck off and die. That completely fucking beat my fantasy game last night. I was so bad.
Speaker 2:So seriously this fantasy football it is.
Speaker 3:It's getting down to the last few weeks of the season.
Speaker 2:Justin Jefferson had some very interesting. Justin Jefferson had some very interesting things to say about fantasy football. He's like, basically, to sum it up, I don't give a shit about your fantasy football.
Speaker 1:I'm out here trying to come up with something.
Speaker 3:I'm out here trying to conserve my body Somebody's gonna be like I mean Right.
Speaker 2:So I don't know how a carryover league works, but I'm sure there's going to be lots of of tubby white men Shellen Justin Jefferson because he's just not committed to winning fantasy football, and goddamn him for it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think that's silly too, but there's always some player every year who has to say that just because Twitter is ablaze with people bitching at shit, that like that, that doesn't mean anything. Sure, you know, let the fantasy player for not playing, just so what.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sweet, sweet fantasy baby.
Speaker 3:Oh, I was just pissed because that happened at the end of the game like that, and I'd lost by exactly those many points they generated.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was a. It was a paint drying on the wall kind of game, Not great. Not great Probably why I fell asleep during that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was actually playing.
Speaker 2:I was playing Call of Duty, modern Warfare 3. Multiple top one finishes, first place finishes, had the iPhone YouTube TV, an endorsement for YouTube TV. If you don't have it, go get it. It's wonderful Watching that on my belly while I played Call of Duty and I would check it every now and then and not a whole lot was going on. You know, it's really the question that. The question I have now at this point is there is literally so many other things that I'd rather be doing than watching the Minnesota Vikings play football. It's really is there. Is there nothing? Do I have two broken legs? Is there nothing else to do? Is everything else run at scores?
Speaker 1:It's this rear window.
Speaker 3:Yeah, who gives a shit? I've already masturbated.
Speaker 2:Is that done? Have I gotten that out of the way?
Speaker 3:If you live streamed your Call of Duty matches, I would watch.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I keep getting that a lot because people tend to they like it. You're good, dude, You're really good yeah.
Speaker 3:I've seen the best and I've seen you and you're right there twitching with him. Go on. Unless it's boxing, I can play.
Speaker 2:It's a good thing I can play video games well, but then I can also be entertaining, so I can do both at the same time. And so guys are like dude, are you streaming right now? And I never do, and I probably should. I can probably make a killing at it, because God knows I've watched Ninja and that guy sucks balls. I I've, I've fucked that you get paid. Some of them are good, but most of them are just kind of bland, yeah Well, good, good players, but without personality.
Speaker 2:I do like Dr Disrespect though I don't know if you guys ever watch that guy hysterical. The six of them are good, but most of them are just kind of bland.
Speaker 3:The six eight great.
Speaker 2:Shout out my brother, if you hear it, let's do something.
Speaker 3:Is he like Ozzy man reviews Just yeah, he's literally six foot eight.
Speaker 2:He wears a, a wig and he's got like some some uh the pit sunglasses and he wears like a combat vest and he games and he's hysterical, like he's very funny and he's particularly good Anywho, and he's, you know, millions of dollars a year he makes now playing video games and if he can do it, I'd settle for 225. Right, right.
Speaker 3:That's a good life, you know. You know who else. You know who else can be sitting around playing video games getting paid fat. Who day Frank right, former head coach of the Carolina Panthers, recently dismissed in the middle of the season. See how smooth he just is Sequitur'd right into the car.
Speaker 2:God damn Scotty.
Speaker 3:After two straight firings, Frank's going to be sitting around with like 50, 50 million. Excuse me, I was talking with Trevor the other day and he was. We were just laughing about that, much like John Gruden. They're going to start forming the fired coaches club.
Speaker 2:I love this, this new kind of exotic shorthand that you're using. Good, he spelled it about 50 mil. He gets to chill on. That's perfect. That's good, I think it says everything. I mean, he's really shyed away from the how can I use more words to? How can I just shorten the words themselves?
Speaker 3:Right, yep, before you even do anything. I'm going to change the color on a couple of these to blue, so you know not to read them there for me.
Speaker 2:Well, don't do that.
Speaker 3:I'm just kidding, cause last time we were talking about that and you were giving me shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so and I'm, if any any NFL front office is out there and interested in a guy who can underperform and take 20 million dollars. I mean I'll take a third of that. Hit up your boy. I'd be more than happy to guide your team into the toilet and still get paid to do it, but I'll charge you less than Frank Reich. Yeah, he should have been fired a long time ago. Dude, about 50 mil and I'll chill. I mean, we're a 20 mil, I'll chill on that I don't even need that much.
Speaker 3:I'm pretty cheap. I'll take 150 K. I think we can work with that.
Speaker 2:Isn't it crazy that we're already at the point where teams are clenching playoff births? The NFL season is flying by. It has gone.
Speaker 3:First week that there's actually somebody that could, but and it's very weirdly possible, Just like the last time I said that they only put that there in case. It's just like Philly, right, it's the only one that could clinch with a number of scenarios.
Speaker 2:But yeah, well, listen, they're going to clench at some point. They're 10. At what? A 10 to 11, 11.?
Speaker 1:I don't know which one of them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I want to do?
Speaker 2:Um yeah, scott's got a lot of scenarios here Uh, philly win plus, uh the Rams loss. Or Philly win plus Detroit loss plus Green Bay loss, or tie. Or Philly tie plus LA Rams loss plus Green Bay loss, or tie plus Atlanta loss, or tie. Or Philly tie plus Los Angeles Rams loss. You're like you're like Bob cost us and basically ball. Pretty straightforward.
Speaker 3:They're just, they're tired after like this, like this all the scenarios. Yup, that's the only reason I put that on there, because I find it ridiculous. There's so many things. They even listed. It was like, okay, right, yeah, keep up.
Speaker 2:This isn't that hard you know I'm the guy that can uh, can play chess five different boards at a time. I call shout. Uh, I call out the guy who's playing chess Five different boards at a time. I call shout or moves over my shoulder. I don't even have to look at the board. That's because Philly tie and call a duty plus LA Rams loss, plus Green Bay loss or tie, or uh plus New Orleans loss or tie. I'm starting to see why people snap and shoot people. It's too much to consume. What have we done? Uh, Justin.
Speaker 2:Jefferson much to the chagrin, or not chagrin, the anti chagrin, the joy of uh, of the previously maybe wounded or offended fantasy football owner, justin Jefferson, has been activated, unfortunately, uh, uh, the pastor, not the flabby armed one is uh is going to be chucking him the ball. At this point I think we go. Jalen Hertz yes, not Jalen.
Speaker 1:Hertz, jalen Hertz.
Speaker 3:Jalen Hall Jalen.
Speaker 1:Hall.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bring him back in.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we'll take Jalen Hertz. Fuck yeah, we'll take him too. Yeah, uh, no, o'connell is noncommittal on the pastor, not why he was never met.
Speaker 2:He was meant to be a what. What is the point? Jalen Hall, Give him a chance. Yes. Are we all in agreement here? I think so, yeah. You have to give him a shot. Yeah, josh Flobbs, I mean dobs had 50 full on.
Speaker 3:He's played.
Speaker 2:So should I say we call him the gastronaut, cause he's clearly gassed. You think that'll catch on. Anybody's on board with that gastronaut? I did read astronaut with two S's. How about? How about this? He's so far gone. He's the past Dronaut. Oh yeah, Gastronaut.
Speaker 3:The P a S Trinite. That's good. You like that one yeah.
Speaker 2:We can go with that one. Hmm, he's so off brand. He's the shastronaut, like the soda shasta. Is that a reach?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like that. Okay, sounds good.
Speaker 2:I think we throw it into the pool for consideration. It's all I'm saying. We don't shut down any ideas.
Speaker 3:now we're still setting feedback and ideas.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good one, hmm.
Speaker 3:Hmm, I think you meant to say to the grin of the fantasy football owners. Right, wouldn't that be the opposite?
Speaker 2:of the light.
Speaker 3:The delight, the grin.
Speaker 2:The grin, yeah, so back, listen. You know the season's a real shit house when one of the best and most electrifying players comes back from my R and no one cares. It is a shame, but he's been over. What. How long it's seven weeks now. Who gives a shit.
Speaker 3:Plus is cherry daddy Kirk and going to be thrown in the balls. So why the hell is it running back to the field?
Speaker 2:Hmm, that's true. Yeah, well, god knows that Dobbs with that arm is going to lead them into a situation. He's going to make people get real hurt. They could call him the cast Trinite. These aren't good. I'm going to be done with that, but you're still trying. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3:The disaster not.
Speaker 2:I like that one. Yeah, catastronaut Ooh, I like that too. Thank you. This is what people pay us money for.
Speaker 3:It's this rich taking catastrophes. Once suffered catastrophe Jason Pierre Paul blew, as most of his right hand off. They blow the left hand off to know Good news for him he's been signed to the active roster by Miami. Fourteen year veterans can be rocking it out there with the big bad team this weekend. Still has most of his fingers.
Speaker 2:Good for him for still being able to play.
Speaker 3:I guess I didn't even know he was there. He's been kind of a little bit here and there this season.
Speaker 2:What fingers are left on that mangled old piece of meat?
Speaker 3:The pinky and the thumb and there's this weird three stubby thing and then, like, there's a chunk of two of them and it's weird. You got to see a picture of it. It's pretty gnarly. Hmm, but it's fully healed and he can play football like a motherfucker. I bet it's better than some.
Speaker 2:at the big old Q tip on his hand I say be brave and whip that fucking mangled sausage out for the world to see.
Speaker 1:Yeah. What are you hiding it for? Be proud of it.
Speaker 2:I like to start a rumor that he puts like a, like a weighted ball in there and then he smacks a shit out of people with it. He covers it up with a, with the, with the, with the, with the tissue, the glove whatever he puts on there, the cloth implanted, implanted under your nub skin. Yeah, and I'm going to throw an asterisk on here that I have no proof. This is complete conjunction.
Speaker 2:I made it up but, it would make sense to me and it feels good to me. Kevin O'Connell, noncommittal on the QB. Uh, after four interceptions against the bears, what do you need to be committal? He should have had two more. You walked in. She was banging your friend, your friend's friend, in the delivery boy. Wait a minute, we have four interception and, uh, some guy that just happened to walk in, but you're not sure what you're going to do now.
Speaker 3:I list lover.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Maybe that's your thing, Kevin Cuck. Connell the Connell.
Speaker 3:You like that one?
Speaker 2:What an asshole. Uh, yeah, okay. Well, we're not committal. Who cares? It's a law season, another law season and no one gives a shit. And, by the way, for those who send me those private messages and then go on Facebook and spot your nonsense, I know who you are and I will weed you out.
Speaker 1:I will weed you out.
Speaker 2:What's this record set on Thanksgiving Scotty? This seems like uh interesting.
Speaker 3:Well, last year they had set a record for everything was average number of viewerships on Thanksgiving in general. So the year, second year in a row, they set a record the average viewership digital uh plus TV across all three games With 31.1 million highest Thanksgiving day average, now that last year was 33.6. That's just a really big round averaging kind of median number. But the total unduplicated audience across three games was 133 million. Second highest total, behind only last year.
Speaker 2:Well and obviously, uh, none of that affected by the NFL, or sorry, the NFL's uh uh partnership with Bud Light. You imagine, just, you know a dude in a dress drinks a beer and your whole life has been tossed upside down. You can't drink the beer anymore. You start boycotting the league for having it. I gotta be honest.
Speaker 3:You see, I saw their ads. They were just saw. But good time or a good beer to have? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, chilling ads.
Speaker 2:No more bullshit, just hey have a beer? Correct, here's, I deliver the beer and I make the beer and I sip the beer. Uh, I assume at some point some, uh, some keen internet sleuth will determine that at least half of those people have said something against the LBGT, q plus TIA communities. So within the last six months, we will find, uh, the egregious error you made the, the market, the, the, the, the market against humanity. You will, will wear a scarlet letter, you, son of a bitch.
Speaker 3:I hate shit. I hate all stupidly sensitive Everything is. I hate it. I think Dana.
Speaker 2:White said it best the other day when someone asked him for busting his balls for signing a deal with Bud Light. He's like why don't you just shut the fuck up? I mean which I think is good Bill Marr had a thing on a show last week that said uh, how about no opinion? How about you? That'd be nice.
Speaker 1:How about you just shut up and?
Speaker 3:go on about your day. You quoted Kendrick last week Sit down, be humble, be humble, sit down. Sit down, be quiet.
Speaker 2:Shut the fuck up, sit down. So a lot of people want it Listen this is again why all the advertising dollars go to live sports. The NFL being the king of the world, being the king on the throne, it's a captive audience. And where else do you get 35, 40 million people to uh, to hawk your goods and services too?
Speaker 3:Uh, Amazon had 27 million for the Thursday night game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel bad for uh Al Michaels, though I don't like the dude.
Speaker 3:They got him part of Herb.
Speaker 2:Street Kirk.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's not kind of horrible.
Speaker 2:I don't have anything bad to say about Herb Street, but I really do miss Collins, where Collins was a little loony and I think you need to pair that with the kind of the levelheadedness of Al Michaels. Herb Street's just not eccentric enough.
Speaker 3:It's a little bit too boring to be a little too safe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we need someone to take some risks, dare. I say that as much as I hate Tony Romo. He might be far more interesting, but he's so good with Nance.
Speaker 3:Yeah, nance is Al Michaels, they're a duel. Yeah, romo doesn't bother me the way it does other people, but I get why.
Speaker 2:You know, 25 million a year, to be right, about 22% of the time.
Speaker 3:Exactly so. It's more so, his voice doesn't great on my ears, and I love that Scott's thing about Jason Peter Paul.
Speaker 2:The last stick he just said still has most of his fingers. No, it's good information. So what do we got here, scott? We got an update on coach, the coaching carousel. Give me a quick rip, let's go.
Speaker 3:So I'm going to rip off a couple of names of some coaches that are in hustle mode that either their team needs to, they need to, or they just probably going to be fucked either way.
Speaker 2:Coaches in the hot seat.
Speaker 3:Basically, sort of like Robert Sala, what do you think? Is he going to make it another season? I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't, I don't know, I don't know if you can blame him for this. This is hard he had. He orchestrated the move to get Rogers in a freak accident, took a mile. The fact of the matter is that everybody was picking New Jersey. Yeah, the New York Jets.
Speaker 1:Well, they play in.
Speaker 3:Jersey. Technically Also, they are kind of the Jersey.
Speaker 2:They should be the Jersey Jets, which sounds like a far cooler name than New York Jets, but they're. Everybody was picking them to be one of the best teams to league, myself included. So I don't know. I think Ron Rivera is probably gone at this point and I don't even think he minds. I think, to be honest with you, ron is probably best suited at this point for TV. Your front office Say he's not going to be a coach again.
Speaker 3:No, I'm like he wants to broadcasting from the riverboat. Too much work for him, too much work.
Speaker 2:Sean McDermott, Buffalo. I don't know if you can blame this season on him. This is just weird stuff. They're putting up good numbers. They're just losing weird games.
Speaker 3:They fired some coordinators too recently and they're trying to get something I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, Sean McDermott's teams have always been competitive. I think this is just a weird year, by the way, if you've been that successful to be gone after one fucking weird season, just seems really still 500.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, yeah, I mean, I wish we applied that here in Minnesota.
Speaker 2:I'd love for O'Connell to be gone already. Bill Melodchick will not be fired. I don't even know if he'll be traded. I have a sneaking suspicion that the plan will be for him to either go to television or work in the front office at New England. All of that depended on his relationship with Kraft. I hear they don't particularly like each other, and so Kraft is not going to put up with this shit if he doesn't need to.
Speaker 3:That's a good point.
Speaker 2:But you know, if they own his rights, some team may want him. I think they're going to let him decide though.
Speaker 3:If he wants a coach, he's going to coach another year.
Speaker 2:But you think they'll let him come back if he wants. I think they will. You have to do that, bill.
Speaker 3:Whole new draft ahead of us. Coach another 20 years, find himself another TV 12.
Speaker 2:Seriously, you know, when you think about Tom Brady, I'm going to bring this back up. Think about the brilliance that it took to say, all right, fine, I'm leaving, and then I'm going to go win someplace else and then watch the results deteriorate New England, and now everybody just thinks it was Tom Brady. The basically the only thing that makes Bill Belichick special is a great quarterback. That's rough.
Speaker 2:That's a pretty unfortunate brady with summation but Brady went from under the in the shadow to it was me and he didn't have to say anything. This fucking guy is a killer. It was game show for right.
Speaker 3:So yeah, I'm not even arguing against it, I'm just saying that's this unfortunate summation of the entirety of even Belichick's contribution, which had to be sizable, being the head coach.
Speaker 2:No, totally agree. Todd Bowles should be gone from Tampa Bay. He is a substandard coach. I like Todd Bowles, but he's not particularly good. Matt Eberfluss, have no fucking clue who he is. Chicago Bears no, no, I know, but nobody wins in.
Speaker 1:Chicago.
Speaker 2:So is this. Eberfluss is like if you were to send Bill Belichick prime. I mean, the best coaches of all time. Put him in Chicago right now. I don't know if they can be successful.
Speaker 3:Plus, his defense is pretty good, but but his jam but.
Speaker 2:I think Chicago finally got the all the regulatory stuff done. They're moving to Arlington Heights, they're going away from Lake Michigan and they're going to move into the Burbs, so they're building a brand new state of the art facility. This team is going to want to hire a new coach at some point, so he may just stick around next year to keep the lights on until they announce the move and then they hire the new coach and the sexy pick and we open that. Yeah, we open the new stadium with a sexy figurehead.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what do you think about that, dennis? Dennis Allen, new Orleans.
Speaker 2:I don't even know who that is. Who cares, he'll be fine, yeah, unless he's got a bunch of money like the things that people need to consider. Everyone's pinching pennies, inflation's up. If the guys got like 60 million guaranteed still on this thing, I'm not letting them go. Fuck, I'll stick around. I mean, the team's still worth $6 billion, what do I care?
Speaker 3:Two interesting ones that I liked Arthur Smith in Atlanta, of course.
Speaker 2:He sticks around.
Speaker 3:I think so. Yeah, he's just competitive enough. He's just starting to play his best player in the fucking team last week too. What an idiot.
Speaker 2:And Antonio Pierce has not had enough time. I think they have to give him. Let him have a season.
Speaker 3:Yeah, when you have a fill in coach like that and it was a good, good amount of the season he'll be coaching because they got rid of fuck with a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 2:Well, let's also be fair that Las Vegas is in a really hard spot right now, so nobody's gonna want to come coach that team. So if he wants to do it, let him get the fucking experience under his belt.
Speaker 3:And let's see what he can do Right slight pay raise, you're saving some cash.
Speaker 2:Not a ton right, not a you get that beautiful new death star that you play in. You know, antonio Pierce. I like that guy. Give him a chance. I don't know if you saw, it rolls into town and it rolls into the stadium in a six-four in Paul. Have you seen that fucking thing?
Speaker 2:No titties, titties. The man's a big, he's a Raiders guy. He should be there when they move back to LA or Oakland, when they inevitably move back, because they're gonna take the team. They're gonna find out because they always do this in LA. They put a team there and that lasts for a little bit and then it realized it's a horrible thing, because nobody wants to go to football games in LA and Then the charges things right charges will go back to San Diego, please.
Speaker 2:The Raiders will go back to Oakland right for a while until they shift them back to LA again, and then they'll shift them back to Vegas, because that fucking team Moves quite a bit. Scott, would you agree with that?
Speaker 3:I've absolutely Lately agree with your assessment. Thank you, that was off the cuff, perfect. That's how it's always been in the last decades.
Speaker 1:Who? I think.
Speaker 2:I say, alright, we're ready for some picks. Yes, sir, seriously the most uninteresting season of football ever seen.
Speaker 3:Alright Bies. This week we have six teams Buffalo, chicago, las Vegas, our Minnesota Vikings. Oh, the New York Giants and the Baltimore Ravens First game of the week. On Thursday Dallas is hosting Seattle, probably an easy pick. Current line is at 9. I'm going with that. Nothing to talk about.
Speaker 2:Really, I don't think, yeah, unless we're all, that's anybody's ascending, we're taking Dallas. Yes, correct?
Speaker 3:What ha a more interesting divisional matchup on Sunday. Indianapolis has a slight line right now one, one and a half. I've seen even two and a half against Tennessee at home. I I'm gonna go with the Indianapolis on this. Colts, I need Gardner men, shoot, have a big day. I'm gonna take the.
Speaker 2:Tennessee Titans at a boy One up on David.
Speaker 3:That's a good one. It's a go other way those division ones.
Speaker 2:I don't need. I don't need my ego fed and I don't need to be validated.
Speaker 3:I just want this fucking did I not he wins once he gets a hothead.
Speaker 2:I will not dignify that with a response.
Speaker 3:Alright, they might be moving back to San Diego after this week We'll see Los Angeles Chargers visiting New England. Bella check will talk to him. It's like let me get you there, I'll be the head coach for move back to San Diego. Like David said, yep, six is aligned to the Chargers. I've gone with the bolts. I hate New England's team this year. They are terrible.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she'll always be Burma to me. I will also take the set the the soon-to-be San Diego Chargers For this, for this, for this game.
Speaker 3:Love. The side fell. Drop there. That's awesome, thank you. She'll always be Burma to be, thank you.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't be surprised with Patriots win this game, but I'm you ain't picking. Oh, I'm gonna use my head and go with the Chargers. Thank you, I would be very surprised.
Speaker 3:You wait.
Speaker 2:Side bet Scott. You never bet, let's bet I.
Speaker 1:Bet you just cover the six, just don't tell his wife.
Speaker 2:She will fucking fully.
Speaker 3:It's not saying, oh Well, this five bucks is fine, five bucks that the Patriots cover the six points Meaning if they score more than or less or whatever. Yeah, I don't okay. Yeah sure you decide Five bucks. You said, yes, okay, deal, it's cover, cool. And you hit the ding, or I think, did you not, david, already before we started blathering?
Speaker 2:I believe, I believe, I don't know.
Speaker 3:The Detroit Lions have a line of four and a half visiting the New Orleans Saints. That'll probably change. I'm going with the Lions on the road. I'm not trusting it, but I'm feeling like I got him.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna take the New Orleans Saints. Whoa. The Detroit Lions don't impress me. Their defense is terrible, yep, but they're often still good. Yeah so I'm gonna with Detroit. Okay, I'm gonna smoke you guys by so much this week. Yeah, I lost the whole track of the goddamn.
Speaker 3:Even though they're not playing. I always nominate the Vikings for honorary shit of the week, but a proper shitter of the week. We have Atlanta with the line three going to New York Jets at home. I I don't know what to do about this freaking game. I guess I'm gonna go with Atlanta because they're doing okay and the Jets Well, they're not and Tim Boyle sucks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, any chance that Aaron Rodgers emerges from the tunnel as a like a WWE. Underneath the ring Popps out crowd goes fucking wild and leads just. Had paid to see that. Yeah, I'm gonna take the Jets.
Speaker 3:Really the defense could pull it out. I mean, the defense keeps them in games.
Speaker 2:It's gonna be cold this weekend it's gonna be really fucking cold. Let's talk to have Tim Boyle.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna take the Jets. I got a feeling of my in my loins. I Am not going with the Jets.
Speaker 3:That's fine, I'm going with Atlanta, that's fine.
Speaker 2:Nobody knows that I have a high football acumen.
Speaker 3:And a runner-up shitter of the week. We got Arizona visiting Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh at home has aligned five and a half. I don't know why they don't win anything by that many points usually. I'm gonna go with the, the Cardinals, in a road victory against a difficult defense.
Speaker 2:I'm actually on the up and up in Pittsburgh. Yeah, they're their offense is looking much better since the Garrett of what's his face. And yeah, they look better. I'm gonna take, I'm gonna take Schittsburg.
Speaker 3:All right, two for Schittsburg, cincinnati nearly won that game and they just had no business. You're on your own, scott Steelers. I always pull it off, though.
Speaker 2:You're on your own. Yes, fair, I can't, I can't fault you for that.
Speaker 3:Carolina at Tampa Bay and another shitter of the week runner-up, they're fill-in coach. I don't even bother to look who cares. Tampa Bay has the line at home. Five and a half. Fine, they can make it. Yeah, tampa Bay, tampa Bay.
Speaker 2:Tampa Bay, tampa Bay, there's dozen.
Speaker 3:Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2:All right. So you think?
Speaker 3:You said Riverboat Ron is gonna. Just that's it, I'm done, I'm not coaching anymore this year.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, I think this if they, if they want to play, I mean, I know, I think that if they, if they want to pay him 25 million to sit around and lose again next year, he's more than happy to take it. I'm just saying that if they do, let him go, I don't, I don't see the impetus For him coming back.
Speaker 3:Well, we'll find out about that. Getting his ass whipped this week at home Hosting the Miami Dolphins with the line of nine and a half right now, sure to go up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's gonna feel like 12 and a half. I Assume we're all trust me on this one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the greatest show on serve one serve.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm so horseshit, so stupid. Yeah, I think we take the Miami Dolphins to win big in Carolina.
Speaker 3:I think um.
Speaker 2:I don't think that's correct. But who cares? Miami, yeah, sure Miami. Oh, is it commanders that they're playing? Yes, at one point, though, you would concede that river boat run was in Carolina.
Speaker 3:Okay, I know I gave you that. Yep, yeah, I have a great mind for history.
Speaker 2:No, thinking about things as they fall back through. Scott please.
Speaker 3:San.
Speaker 2:Diego loves your love of history. San Diego is desperate to get that team back. La doesn't need it. They should go back. The small market team should return the ram should fucking go back to St Louis, Cronk. He fucked that, that whole goddamn state, the poor people of, uh, St Louis. That is in Missouri, Correct?
Speaker 3:St Louis yeah.
Speaker 2:Correct, Thank you, and the uh Raiders should go back to LA or share time between LA and Oakland East.
Speaker 3:LA.
Speaker 2:They've been. They've been to both places.
Speaker 3:Go Raiders.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it an expansion team from like London to play in Las Vegas. They would expand and then move, move to Las Vegas Beef eaters the beef. They're a they're a London team that have that has no European players on it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, those are the guards that you see, they can't play football.
Speaker 2:They play soccer. They're not big enough. A rugby, yeah, and rugby is bullshit. These rugby guys are always talking about how bad it. Go. Put five rugby guys out on the field with who? Who could we have them go up? Who, the fucking Daniel Hunter had to? Neil Hunter just run into somebody full speed and let's see how they take that.
Speaker 3:How about the Philadelphia offense? Fucking Italians?
Speaker 2:What's that?
Speaker 3:I said how about the Philadelphia offense can go up against them? Do a fucking.
Speaker 2:Kelsey would just knock people out.
Speaker 3:Tosh Tosh, tosh, tosh, tosh yeah.
Speaker 2:Hurts would fucking hurt, hurt them.
Speaker 3:Del Rio said it was just like rugby.
Speaker 2:Hurting for a squirting, oh my.
Speaker 3:Oh, onto the squirting. Excuse me, this might be a tough. Did I say that? Sorry, I'm sorry. Anyway, in another game of the week I think it should be. David will probably scoff at it, but the ascending Denver Broncos are visiting the Houston Texans. Texans have the line at home three and a half and I'm going with Stroud and his boys. I like that at home but Russ is cooking. Well, the running game is going. Defense is sly, it's it's. You can't disregard them like we could earlier. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's almost like good coaches are able to turn bad teams around and we're seeing like a fucking pixie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're seeing why they invested the money into that guy.
Speaker 2:This is an interesting game. I don't know if it's a great game, but it is interesting. You have a. It's clearly two teams who who were, who are in ascendance, a team in in Denver who is completely changed the percentage of the. They have the longest win streak in the NFL now, seven games in a row. No, they've only won six so far, six in a row and they're walking into Houston which is doing all right. They do have the little loss from Jacksonville which probably stings them in the, in the, in the private parts, a little bit. I don't know what I'm going to do here, jameson, help me talk through this, let's.
Speaker 2:I'm going to, I'm going to lifeline out here. What do you think?
Speaker 3:Let's talk, let's talk it through. It is. I'm excited for it.
Speaker 2:Are you, cj Stroud, rookie of the year? Oh, without a doubt. Okay, yeah, no question there. But I do like what CJ said after the game last week that you know he was. He's the leader of this team and he's going to bounce back, and I believe he's going to. So I'm going with Texans, that's good enough for me, I'll take the Houston Texans as well.
Speaker 3:Nice, just like that, all right. I mean, it took about five minutes. They're also at home, so yeah, that's true, that does help yeah.
Speaker 2:The friendly confines of? Are they based at or named after an oil company?
Speaker 3:The Houston Texans.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean the field, you know. They get the naming rights.
Speaker 3:Oh, I don't yeah, I don't probably mock me like I'm saying something.
Speaker 2:What is that one?
Speaker 3:New. That's what near NRG, isn't it NRG stadium? Is that what it is? Yeah, NRG, so that sounds like an energy company, doesn't it? Sounds specifically like an energy company. Good spot on Fresh off of the other ass whipping point score bonanza. The LA Rams have the line at home three and a half visiting team as Cleveland and they will probably have Joe Flacco, Cause I think they got they got him up off the practice squad for this week.
Speaker 2:Who was the last week? Pj Walker. That got absolutely nailed, yeah, and then Dorian Thompson Robinson, anal good.
Speaker 3:And of course Hansy is off, off for the rest of the season. And yeah, yeah, I'm not sure if you're going to be able to get that. I, yeah, I'm going to go with the Rams on this one. I don't really think they're going to score that many points, because Cleveland D is still Cleveland D, but I think their offense has got enough to get at least three more than them.
Speaker 2:Well, david is busy searching something over there, I will. I think Cleveland is going to do enough defensively to win this game by itself, so I'm going to go with Cleveland.
Speaker 3:I like to pick. I think it's fine. La is not a solid lock. Yeah, I don't trust some of us here. Cleveland. Nice, you must be watching point All right In a proper game of the week and for some reason it's not getting flexed out to Sunday. San Francisco at Philadelphia. San Francisco has a small line of three as the visiting team. This is a tough, goddamn game, but I'm going to go with San Francisco. Bad pick.
Speaker 2:What's that Bad?
Speaker 3:pick. You think Philly is going to crack it.
Speaker 2:I think Philadelphia is going to put an ass, will put on him. You think so, I think you go either way, homie.
Speaker 3:Both of these teams are very similar, except San Francisco's defense just a little better.
Speaker 2:Brock Purdy, I think let the good press get to his head. I don't see him playing that well. The last couple I said Brock fugly last week. I haven't seen them fucking reverse course on that at all.
Speaker 3:Didn't they put 30 plus up on Jacksonville? It's what.
Speaker 2:That was a couple of weeks back. That was weeks ago, two weeks ago, after their buy.
Speaker 1:I didn't say weeks, that is plural.
Speaker 2:I'm taking Philadelphia.
Speaker 3:It's not a bad pick. Can't go wrong with this. You guys can both take San Fran, they're in.
Speaker 2:Philadelphia, which makes a big difference. Take San Fran. I think I am going with San Francisco. Wow, you guys are out your minds. Their defense is just too stellar. We'll see how good they are when the Philadelphia fans start chucking pennies at him from the stands. I don't think you guys are factoring in all the laser beams. Fucking cat lasers in the eye. Fuck you, brock Purdy.
Speaker 3:At least they don't throw a dildos at him. I might do that too. That's a new England thing.
Speaker 2:Someone gets a free beer if you get one in the butt cheeks. Oh there it is.
Speaker 3:All right. Sunday night has your high money Super Bowl winner contending right now Kansas City visiting Green Bay, Jamison you know boy. Kansas City has the line six and a half right now. I'm going to go with the Chiefs. I like, of course, as we talked about before, picking Green Bay in November, but it'll be December by that point, won't it? December 3rd? I'm just kidding, it's the same, but I'm still going with the Chiefs. They always find a way to win, I like.
Speaker 2:Cadillacs and I'm gonna go with the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3:Seen that Snickers commercial guys, where a guy paints the chefs on the field instead of the Chiefs and Andy Reed comes up behind them and says, hey, that looks good.
Speaker 2:I I refuse to watch commercials anymore. I make enough dispensable income that I can afford the ad free lifestyle.
Speaker 3:That's wonderful.
Speaker 2:Thank you, I'm going with the home team.
Speaker 3:Nice Going with the Green Bay Sometimes.
Speaker 2:Bull. You know what Bull booth Pepper? They got something going on all of a sudden, do they? I hated them in three weeks ago and now I love them again. So Get a little something.
Speaker 3:Touchdown Packers the plucky Packers we love those.
Speaker 2:I was degraded for a little bit there Dejected you're down. Yes, correct.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, unlike the Minnesota Vikings, you are able to have all those emotions in a single season, where everything that the Vikings do kind of has the underpinnings of pending doom. Sure, they're playing well now, and there it is Interception number four. Four fucking picks. I mean you have to be playing shit to throw out four interceptions.
Speaker 3:You gotta be fair a little bit. Two of those definitely were bobbled by the fuck by the receiving situation. But yes, two, two is enough for me to be going. You didn't score any touchdowns either.
Speaker 2:And yet to be noncommittal.
Speaker 3:I mean where?
Speaker 2:you go from here. You got a bywing to figure it out. Scanney. The editor picks.
Speaker 3:One more buddy. We got what would have been a game of the week. Yes, until until Joe Burrow is out for the season. Cincinnati visiting Jacksonville seven and a half to the home team at Jacksonville. I'm going with Jack's and I'm going to go 40 points.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think Jacksonville is going to win. You got a sneeze coming on, Jameson, go ahead All right.
Speaker 1:I'm going with.
Speaker 2:Jacksonville as well. Now I'm going to go with 44. 30 to 14 songs about right, reasonable, all right. Jacksonville is going to win. I see Jacksonville putting up 17 points, maybe 20. I'll go 20, and I see Cincinnati putting up right around 13. So I'm going to go 33 points. It's fair, like one of those games.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You're right Last week. Thank you Well, I mean listen, they're two horrible teams.
Speaker 3:If he loses again, he's going to pick 10 for his total score next Monday.
Speaker 2:So I change it to 10.
Speaker 3:You're already. It don't have to. You're already the low guy Beautiful.
Speaker 2:Thank you very much. Anything else, Mr?
Speaker 3:Nyberg, I don't have anything else in the docket, sir.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right. Well, listen, this has been fun. We've talked about a little football. The beginning of the show I thought was a little more interesting. Once we get to the actual picks, things start to dry up a little bit and there's really no lube for a podcast segment, is there?
Speaker 3:No, it's got to push through a little jab it in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just fucking work. What do you?
Speaker 2:got. Keep the pressure on yeah and we did it we went to completion, did we not?
Speaker 3:It sounds like it, maybe we'll be uploaded for a full release. Somebody did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll put it for full release. That's the tagline of the next upload that we put out. Uploaded for your full release, scotty. Listen, I appreciate everything you do, jameson, you're a wonderful man. This is always fun. I look forward to it every single week. I'm hoping sincerely that the quality on the field gets better. At the very least we eliminate all these trifling ass teams and soon we'll be in the playoffs with the cream rises to the top, and I think things will get interesting once again. I still submit that there are no interesting personalities anymore in the NFL. There's nobody worth following. We need ambassadors, we need big personalities, people that we care about, that we invest in, that we like, that we hate, that really drive the tertiary conversations and make things like the NFL far more interesting, and we just don't have those right now. Tens of people around the NFL, people like Pat McAfee, and that's what I'm so forth.
Speaker 3:He's fun to watch.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is Tom Brady, but again all outside. We need people inside of it. Everybody seems to I don't know everybody's playing it. All the quarterbacks are very bland and kind of generic. Aaron Rodgers is the most interesting guy, but he's not playing right now. And he's not long for the NFL world, so I don't know. Anyway, something maybe we talk about next time. Scott, sound good, sounds great. Dude, I love that. Yeah, wonderful man hey.
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