Ever taken a trip to Disney's Animal Kingdom in the midst of rain? David recently did, and found himself falling head over heels for gorillas, despite the downpour! This week’s episode takes you from the vibrant wildlife of Florida to the adrenaline-pumping world of NFL, while sharing our travel anecdotes and sports predictions.
Who said football is only about the games?
Ideas, rage, praise, dirt? Send it to igntrnetwork@gmail.com
Ever taken a trip to Disney's Animal Kingdom in the midst of rain? David recently did, and found himself falling head over heels for gorillas, despite the downpour! This week’s episode takes you from the vibrant wildlife of Florida to the adrenaline-pumping world of NFL, while sharing our travel anecdotes and sports predictions.
Who said football is only about the games?
Ideas, rage, praise, dirt? Send it to igntrnetwork@gmail.com
What did I say? I said I wonder if the dark saber is made out of best car steel, because you know it is a Mandalorian Jedi that made it.
Speaker 2:You know a lot about that Star Wars, don't you?
Speaker 1:A bit, a bit too much. A bit too much. His wife loves it.
Speaker 2:Get it so, so what.
Speaker 3:Live from the igniter bunker deep, deep under Cold Spring Minnesota. It's the NFL Pickham Show, with your host, the two-time Boatman of the Year and 2023 Cold Spring Lions Golf Scramble champion Shucker, All-Star, joined in studio by the big-winged Jameson Wall and, remotely from their smoke-stained shed, interim producer Scott Nyberg. Nfl Analysis and Inside Information from across the league, meant to edify and entertain. It's the igniter NFL Pickham Show and it starts now. Touchdown. Are you ready for some football? We're ready for some football, baby.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, baby, welcome to week 11 of the igniter NFL Pickham Show. We think the best damn football Pickham Show certainly in Sturins County.
Speaker 4:I'd hope so.
Speaker 1:Week 11, no week 12,. We're picking this one. We're starting small.
Speaker 2:You gotta be humble, bitch, be humble, as Kendrick Lamar said.
Speaker 1:Me humble. I'll sell these to an area code 320.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sit down, be humble In the 320. Sit down, be humble in the 320.
Speaker 1:I think, the 651 area code's got at least one rabid listener.
Speaker 2:I gotta tell you I know I recorded. It's interesting, like out of the last four or five episodes, two of them have been recorded in Florida. It's like I'm almost already living there. I'm moving there at some point and the home will be open to all of you to come down and enjoy sunshine, get some vitamin D. Leave it up to you to discern and decipher what that means.
Speaker 1:I like that sound of that. Thank you guys. You guys, if you're welcome, to fly back up here and stay with us in Hurricane.
Speaker 2:Trust me, getting that D is one way deal. So anyway, back into the friendly confines of the bunker, deep, deep, deep inside of Cold Spring, minnesota, though my Florida trip did bear good fruit Rainy like a son of a bitch down there the whole time, was it.
Speaker 5:Yeah, got off the plane. Yeah, you thought I felt like I flew to Seattle.
Speaker 2:Rain all over the goddamn place. Get off the plane, got the rental car flight. It was pretty good. I decided to save a few bucks and flew some country.
Speaker 2:It was very excited when they put me at 1C, right up front, sounds like a good spot, great spot. First off the plane. Yeah, so I downloaded some movies onto my iPhone and had everything packed and ready to roll with carry on. I don't like checking in a bag, I like it Just going right through security onto the plane, off the plane, out of sea, just right off the fucking airport. Get the rental car and go Check bags. You add an hour, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:For sure, waiting in line, you're checking it in. Then you're waiting at the carousel looking at some fucking jabron across the way. Try not to make eye contact. It's going to get weird. Maybe they lose the bag. Everything important is in there, so we don't do that. Get on the plane. When you know it, the seats up front for the first three rows on a Sun Country flight are I don't know how to describe it. They got steel sidewalls that run from the armrest down. They're about the width of a 13-year-old girl and I'm eyeballing this thing and I'm like I ain't, this ain't going to work. The leg room is going to be fine, hip room going to be tight.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Sure was Running start, Thank God. The guy in the middle I had been friendly with, up in the whatever you call it the weight, you know, the outside the jet bridge, and so I was like I apologize to you because you and my shoulders and elbow are going to get to know each other real well, and he's carrying me out after my waist down, falls asleep after an hour.
Speaker 2:No big deal he says and it wasn't. He was a very nice man and I was very appreciative of that. But yeah, the seat was so tight that it felt like someone was taking like two hammers and just in a vice pinching my hip.
Speaker 1:I thought this was sun country, not my son country.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this. This felt like some sort of torture technique the CIA used to get data out of hostile enemy combatants.
Speaker 4:That's on the next movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, good, yeah Some would you like to play a game? I would not. No, no, no, I would not. I'll give you the information. What do you want to know? So it's three hours of this, and so I had to get up frequently because it was not comfortable and all the movies are downloaded to my phone Didn't work, so it was just 3.5 hours of me in a, in a fucking vice, popping the eyeball out of my fucking head, and then I get to Florida and it's just raining the whole goddamn time. So all we did, so I spent. I spent a hundred 160 bucks per day for Disney.
Speaker 2:That gets you the entry and the park hopper Tuesday with Anthony.
Speaker 2:Tuesday. I did no Wednesday, I did Tuesday. He was working. So Tuesday morning one day I worked, tuesday. I got up and I went to the park alone. Animal kingdom drizzled, drizzled, drizzled, not so bad, it rains. They spent about two hours in my gorillas. It was phenomenal and they were active Climbing around and there's a baby gorilla and I love animal kingdom. It's a really great zoo. And then and then it was just like a tsunami in the rain, brother, the rain came down in. My feet are wet. I'm getting that crotch dole rot where it gets wet down and you're just starting to chafe and it hurts.
Speaker 1:It's like caught between the washer and the dryer Got it.
Speaker 2:No longer the most magical place on earth? Definitely not. And then a good buddy of mine return of Jafar, good buddy of my advance from Roark showed up and then we we basically stayed in animal kingdom, but he, he's a annual pass holder and knows the place pretty well. And there's a tree top, roark, do you?
Speaker 1:say from Roark Did.
Speaker 5:I say that Buddy from Roark.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:Work. Sorry, my bad Go on.
Speaker 2:So he finds it. We find a tree top bar and I have about 10 bourbons and I forgot that it was raining, forgot about the crotch dole rot. All the pain was gone, had some poke bowls lobster mac Wonderful.
Speaker 1:They even found the magic Wonderful.
Speaker 2:Somehow drunkenly got on a Mickey transport. Three drunk people on a Mickey transport get over to Epcot. We find the tequila cave and then we started drinking tequila, where I made a discovery and I want to share it with you all, would you like?
Speaker 4:to hear the good news. They're good or bad.
Speaker 2:Yes, would you like to hear the good news Jalapeno infused tequila.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yes, is it good. Yes, sounds good, I can dig that.
Speaker 2:Yes, they bring it out in the glass. It's called the El Diablo, which I love, and it's got a fire salt around the rim and then it's got about five jalapenos inside the cocktail, about six of those. Later we went to the cellier, which is the Canadian restaurant at Epcot.
Speaker 1:You spent the rest of the evening in the bathroom.
Speaker 2:No, no, you were good. Great had some poutine, had a flight of Crown Royal, brought out five flutes of different Crown Royals.
Speaker 1:Dude, I feel like a Jim Brewer sketch. Oh, slap no.
Speaker 2:Listen, we all know, we all know Chakir can hold his alcohol.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, I just met the mixing. I can imagine a party and you're telling me.
Speaker 2:Dude got home, went to bed around 1am, was up at seven o'clock and then went to Hollywood Studios with Anthony and he used his club 33 membership. We rode rise of the resistance, Got on that immediately. We're in the park half hour before it opened, so cool. And then we built a lightsaber. So I built a lightsaber, Scott. I want to share this with you.
Speaker 1:I can't wait to see this Okay.
Speaker 2:So I built this from scratch. So this is all. I built this all of it, from the top to the bottom. So inside of this is a salt crystal. What gives it its color?
Speaker 1:Oh, the, the or the blue one, they just various tinge. I can't say specific. Oh, but what's the crystal called inside of it, like it often, kyber is what they'll say Kyber.
Speaker 2:So you literally pick your crystal. So there's a crystal in the inside of this thing and that, literally, is what changes the blade color. And I go through the. Now I was not interested. This is like a $350. I think it looks legit. So you go into this cave. It's a lot of caves there. You're drinking in a cave, you're making lightsabers and k and they give you like a Myers Briggs personality profile, which apparently I'm justice and peace, which was interesting. I thought it would have been chaos and you know Tom Fulery, skull Duggery, but wasn't on the menu. And this dude, and it's all like he puts on a whole production and he holds up. He's like we start with the crystal, holds up the crystal and as he holds up the crystal, the whole room takes on the color of that crystal. It's very cool. I like that production.
Speaker 5:And.
Speaker 2:I don't want to be moved by this, because I'm looking at the people in the room and I want nothing in common with any of them.
Speaker 1:We've heard, yes, we've got.
Speaker 2:It's not it's not what I want. But here I am completely taken with what's happening around me, and so I build this damn lightsaber, I light it up for the first time and they give me a little slingy over there to put it in, and then really that's when I realized I have to carry this thing around for the next nine hours.
Speaker 2:In addition to my backpack, went back to the crystal cave at Epcot, had about 12 more L Diablos ate at the Mexican restaurant that night, went home, got on a very early flight the next day and came home. So it was a hell of a trip. Reigned the entire goddamn time, but very happy to be home and amongst my friends in the lovely state of Minnesota. So does that thing light up?
Speaker 4:It's got a blade right in there.
Speaker 2:I'll show it to you at the end. But this thing is so cool, it knows that there's no blade in it. So when you try to fire it up, nothing it just sounds broken Because there's no blade in it. Even makes noise, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:When you swing it it makes the noise and it crack sounds and stuff like that and it's got the real good strong. What polymer plastics?
Speaker 2:Well, this is all metal.
Speaker 1:No, I meant the blade.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, the blade. And then Anthony told me about some place where you get upgraded blades. The cost almost as much as the goddamn lights.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, it's a serious business. I've watched some videos.
Speaker 2:I also have a stand that lights up Scott, so it's got blue light, envelops it, the whole damn thing. Let's get to my bookshelf.
Speaker 4:That's awesome. My question is did you make it through airport on the way back? Okay With that. Yeah, that's a weapon, right?
Speaker 2:Apparently, a lot of nerds fly some country because they knew exactly what to do with it. I walk, I walk on the plane. One of the most attractive flight attendants I've ever seen in my entire life is on the plane and immediately I got this fucking lightsaber slung over my shoulder and she just gives me a look and I'm like fucking dork.
Speaker 1:You got a place like a neck. Weird, you got a place to put my lightsaber storage on this plane.
Speaker 2:Sir you should have checked this.
Speaker 1:I don't check my things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but she did. She's like I sure do I have a special place for your lightsaber and I'm like I bet she anyway put it on the.
Speaker 1:I buy that for a dollar.
Speaker 2:Put it on the special place and then, once see again, ram my ass back into that tiny little seat.
Speaker 2:This time though fortunate that nobody was in the middle seat, so I got to at least sprawl out a little bit and flew my butt home. You get to bake over the tray. Yeah, the torturous thing about flying is really the fact that when you live out here, you drive an hour and a half into the airport, you wait for another hour and a half and then you're on a plane ride for two, three hours, and then you do the same thing when you come. So at the end of the trip, when you're coming home, you land and you're like great, I still have an hour and a half plane.
Speaker 4:You're not home yet, no, and I've landed.
Speaker 2:I've landed at like four o'clock where it's like I'm in bumper to bumper all the way to fucking pass Rogers that's like two hours. It's brutal.
Speaker 1:So anyway, yeah, a little a little storm coming home, David.
Speaker 2:No little highlight of my trip. And then I had a good time watching the Minnesota Vikings. But fuck, the final minute and six seconds of that game and here we are, lost to Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4:What a time. I don't know, to be honest. I'm excited to hear more about that, because I didn't see the ending and I haven't seen anything about it. So yeah, I would love to learn more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's a section devoted just to the Vikings. I know I can't wait for it.
Speaker 2:Scotty, I am pretty confident I didn't win, but as we are wanting to do, and I am less and less inclined to do, we're going to talk about picks, as it is a pick-up show, and that let's get into. Who actually won, scotty, why don't you, why don't you edify us all?
Speaker 1:I would love to. Well, we'll just get the. There was one bet last week. David had bet Jameson that Dallas would not cover the 11 point spread. Simple $5 bet. Jameson wins, as Dallas won 33 to 10.
Speaker 4:So long shot by a motherfucker.
Speaker 1:So good thing you didn't put a bonus on that.
Speaker 2:I don't care anymore. I'm just not. I'm not hitting it hard this year. I'm getting nothing this year, not that I got anything last year, I don't know. I'm pessimistic about it. Now I don't even want to make wages anymore. I'm going to need to get some money, because this is this is obviously no longer my best interest.
Speaker 4:I don't think you want to bet this year. I don't think I won last year.
Speaker 1:Lots of games this week that are very contentious. I think will be ripe for you to bet on Teams you hate, teams you love.
Speaker 2:Okay Listen, everybody knows I'm not particularly good at the pick up, so let's just get right to the right. Let's just get to it. Let's just get to the thing. Give me the penetration.
Speaker 1:You did so much better though.
Speaker 2:Did I get six this time you did.
Speaker 1:You got eight for the week, as did Jameson. Oh we tied.
Speaker 2:Scott won. That's right. That's even worse. I was.
Speaker 1:I was leading with nine going into Monday night and you guys had picked KC and I had picked Philadelphia.
Speaker 2:By the way, at halftime I was like done, we got that one Right. And then, and then and.
Speaker 1:David would have won because he had the low points 27.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I had it Sadly shut out in the second half.
Speaker 4:Yeah, 14, nothing yeah, so that was bad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, rubar has it that Taylor Swift was not impressed.
Speaker 4:Can't be.
Speaker 2:She's got a whole album coming out of it she needs to show up to the games.
Speaker 5:I think I heard that one was called shut out, shut out second half shut out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she had a fan diet as the concert the other day. She's not having a good.
Speaker 2:Apparently she was very respectful, her and Travis. They did not leave the hotel to respect the person who died and I'm sure that they, you know, had to suffer in their 12,000 square foot present day for a while. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Is that moment of silence?
Speaker 2:Bought some prayers from the balcony no.
Speaker 4:Well for or less it enlightened us on the week prior we had missed out on the Monday night game because we recorded on Monday night. Oh, I won that one too, but it wasn't.
Speaker 1:I didn't get any points on you, that was just, it was more of a. I think it was a tie, if I recall. Ok, and then I went to the yeah, it was points total. I went. What did I have? Fifty one total. I picked and you're fifty six and it was a little bit lower for Denver and Buffalo Bummer. Ok, sorry, both that. So, yeah, I didn't get any points last week, but this week I did. I got 10 points because that Philly winning put me at 10 and sorry. So I'm sure you guys feel just like that Taylor Swift fan.
Speaker 4:Overall Stannings when we at.
Speaker 1:Like over to the. Is that the same here? We all? Sorry, I was looking the last week for you, so yeah, you guys got eight this week 8090 for David, one, oh, four for you. I had 10, 1, 0, 2 for me, just two behind now and the spread is at 100, even total.
Speaker 2:I'm almost at an entire week's worth of games behind, you know.
Speaker 3:Get that son of a bitch off the field right now. He's fired, he's fired.
Speaker 2:I might bring back pickbot.
Speaker 4:You might have to.
Speaker 2:You know what I don't have this year is my pick consultant either. I went in completely nude this year On my own. I fucking I went. I was the first one through, the only one through the door. I got no help. You, sons of bitches, certainly aren't offering any.
Speaker 4:Didn't work out for it.
Speaker 1:Except picking the games.
Speaker 2:Pretty good, pretty good, all right. Well, scott, congratulations on another dominant performance. Have a feeling this is going to come right down to the wire and James said I hope you do beat him this year.
Speaker 5:I hope so.
Speaker 2:There's just so many traces, reminders of how close it was down to the wire. Scott scoops in at the end and I look forward to not giving him his celebratory dinner this year as well. Yeah, it's three years running.
Speaker 1:It's I'm a three Pete that no dinner.
Speaker 2:No, you can bank those for a more expensive dinner. I had hope so. We'll go find that 80, 80 ounce border or five more we get to go to Applebee's.
Speaker 1:Five more years to get up that Pittsburgh blue You're going to take, you and I, just us, we'll go to the most fancy dinner places you go to for work. Yeah, we bring him to go box of our leftovers.
Speaker 2:Here's the noble we had. They had boxes to go. I get to a chicken meal, for my deli Is this just a bone.
Speaker 4:There's me Get in there there's some marrow, come on.
Speaker 1:You like it on toast to old to go diving into some Walker. I'm going to get that bitch on the phone.
Speaker 2:To your being able to pick different games.
Speaker 1:Guys there, since it is early in the week, these spread totals that I always go. I get onto a check it a couple of different websites, so there's a couple of games that are close Pick only fans, and I did you know, and they're just like wavering one or two, so right there for you, bro. Would you let your, would you let your wives go on? Only fans.
Speaker 2:If it meant the difference between losing your house. I would get another. I would get another. I would get another, I would get another.
Speaker 4:I would get another job. What if?
Speaker 2:it was just feet.
Speaker 4:Then I'm okay with it. You're fine, yes, what?
Speaker 2:if it's just people lives, or lives are watching her eat.
Speaker 4:Just eat food. Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 2:I read a story about a woman who has, like a South Korean gentleman, watch her. She makes 40 grand a month and all they do is watch her eat.
Speaker 4:I'm more than okay with that.
Speaker 1:Good with this right? Yeah, absolutely, I'm not Mukbang cooking. I will gladly go to the grocery store. That's my contribution.
Speaker 2:I'll pick up your food. No, I'll cook it, I'll prepare it.
Speaker 1:Whatever you need 40 K is like this to people just like cram a bunch of fucking food, that just eat a huge bowl of whatever Disgusting.
Speaker 4:Weird, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But yes is the answer. Yes, sure, we got to pay the bills.
Speaker 4:Well, any big news from last week. We need to go over.
Speaker 1:Hmm, her usual. I think Joe Burr is over the season. Joe Burr, right back. Sorry, I'm hurt.
Speaker 4:That is unfortunate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, well, hurt out for the season. Uh, how much of that was guaranteed Always. I always laugh in these years of these teams give these, these players, massive guaranteed contracts. It seems like it's about a 50 50 crap shoot that these people get injured and they're out for the season.
Speaker 4:It's football. How can you not get injured eventually, right?
Speaker 1:The second season ender in November in a row and David 219 was injury guaranteed. I was looking into it. So it's like the next four, four to six years. They got them lots of money guaranteed.
Speaker 2:Oh, so 219 Millie. Wow Do you think they take out an insurance policy just to cover themselves in the back end?
Speaker 4:You hope so.
Speaker 2:Probably a couple.
Speaker 1:Right, can you imagine?
Speaker 2:looking at the actuary table for that and going, fuck Billy, I don't know. Usa is maybe a part of that right. Somebody, the bank of Saudi Arabia. They may be the only ones that can afford to fucking provide the policy at this point. Well, joe Burr, our best to you. Back, his neck is back, His pussy and his crack are all apparently broken. He done.
Speaker 4:Good to set up better.
Speaker 2:Quite chilly. Well, listen, I'm sure he'll be all right. He can afford all the latest video games and all the the comforts and luxuries of life. Joe Burr is going to be just fine. Who did they get to take over for him in Cincinnati?
Speaker 1:What's that kid's name? He sucks One sec. Maybe he'll be better browning Already.
Speaker 2:I would have appreciated at least 12 seconds to let that play but we will take browning.
Speaker 4:I'm not Scott.
Speaker 2:We're browning.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 4:Is he any good?
Speaker 1:First name right Good.
Speaker 4:I don't think you're a good.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 3:So Cincinnati season.
Speaker 2:Cincinnati season is lost. Pretty much All right, Very good. I don't think it looks like it's going to be a Cleveland Detroit Super Bowl anyway, so let's just lean right into that.
Speaker 4:Cleveland, Detroit. Let's put some money on that.
Speaker 2:I can't. I have to leave with my head I gotta think I can't fucking do it.
Speaker 1:I don't think you meant to say Cleveland, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 2:I won't be persuaded. I am going to stay strong. I will not be led by the nose of temptation, by you, jameson. You better.
Speaker 1:You met.
Speaker 2:Cleveland city. Yup, yup, cleveland city, cincinnati, cincinnati. Joe Flacco was spotted on an airplane. Did not get signed by Cincinnati, or he did.
Speaker 1:No, he got a browns Bruins Because the Sean Watson's the Sean's also out.
Speaker 2:Yes, he is shoulder. The entire state of Ohio is hemorrhaging professional quarterback talent. Yeah Well, they got Dorian Thompson.
Speaker 1:Robinson is their third string. Who just he sucks in Donovan people's Jones got hurt. I don't trust anyone with three names Dorian Thompson, Robinson.
Speaker 2:I reserve that for psychopaths and serial killers.
Speaker 4:Oh, absolutely Thank you Scott?
Speaker 2:what's your middle name? Again William.
Speaker 1:Here's this, joseph. Yeah, jameson says D Packers.
Speaker 4:No, david, d Just D one letter.
Speaker 2:Jameson D wall Full meal. What is it tied to? What does the D represent?
Speaker 4:Okay, I'll get to it. Huge dick.
Speaker 1:You know what it means.
Speaker 4:No, no, my grandpa and my grandma both had Darlene and Donald. Also that was so they put them together. Took the D. Yeah, you know, taking the D.
Speaker 1:Darlene.
Speaker 4:Darlene.
Speaker 2:Don lean, that's a cool story, just such as D yeah, yeah, like Nelson D Rockerfeld is actually a quite inconvenience when you sign up for shit. Dwight D Eisenhower.
Speaker 5:Nelson D Rockerfeld, little name.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dwight D Eisenhower. He was a general. The president it's Dwight D Eisenhower. What do you think his name is? Dwight, dwight. I'm a little bit, I'll get it right now.
Speaker 1:I think it's, I'm gonna do it too.
Speaker 2:We're gonna fucking teach this audience, david.
Speaker 1:It's your own namesake, dwight David Eisenhower, 34th president United States, and, yes, general.
Speaker 2:What about Nelson D Rockerfeller?
Speaker 1:I'm not looking at. I don't know why I didn't prepare. I'll see Rockerfeller. Oh my God, I'm a president of the United States, by the way. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure I'm not, I'm not, I'm not.
Speaker 2:By the way, middle initial not be at all.
Speaker 1:All rich, nelson, a Rockefeller as an a whole, david.
Speaker 4:Oh perfect.
Speaker 2:Learn something new every day. This is why people tune into this show, certainly not for the accuracy of my picks or my capable, my ability to be so far behind the spread. I can't even see it anymore.
Speaker 5:It's disappeared over the rise.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Scottie.
Speaker 1:What about your normal, your ability to accurately pronounce words, like certain game callers in Green Bay this weekend?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Scott, Listen. Scott was hyperpro this week and provided a couple of song clips. Scott, is this my cue?
Speaker 1:I was gonna ask if Jameson had watched the game. I did.
Speaker 4:I'm a little confused of what you're talking about.
Speaker 1:Okay. So just to set it up, the. Okay, just play it. You know what this is Christian Watson. Watson, excuse me, getting his touchdown later in the game and I laughed so hard.
Speaker 2:This is the the TD Packers yeah, plank touchdown Packers.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was a shorter, one. Yeah, sorry my bad.
Speaker 4:Packers.
Speaker 2:So it's not the players, not Packers. Oh, I see what you're saying. It's the Green Bay Packers, but he pronounced it Packers. Let me hear that again.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Now that I have the context, I think this will be funnier to me. I don't know I think it's more like a longer clip touchdown Cox, I mean Packers, I gave you a little eight second clip, or whatever that was the call, and then it ended touchdown, but that's pretty good. I think that was worth the time to upload this to the soundboard. Did he get fined for that?
Speaker 1:No, it's just the way he says it. Yeah but I just thought it was like he clearly says Packers.
Speaker 4:I know you're reaching Scott.
Speaker 2:You're reaching a lot of full pause. Well, you know, I just reminds me of those things that go around social media from time to time, where you hear it one way and I hear it the other. Is it a yellow?
Speaker 4:dress or a blue dress? I was just thinking the devil with the blue dress.
Speaker 2:I can't remember. I remember there was a dress and then all in Yanny, yeah, yanny. Laurel Yanny. Laurel Yanny. I saw a kid get a boot out of school and can't come to any more sports events because they accused him of dressing in blackface. Turns out he was just putting the eye make up on. Remember John Randall, how he used to create the whole front of his face had like a like a war drive paint.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that man he liked to do.
Speaker 2:This gets nine years old. Puts that on. It's in the crowd to support the team. They fucking suspend him from school for two days and he can no longer come to athletic events.
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 4:That's a shame.
Speaker 2:Laurel touchdown.
Speaker 4:Packers.
Speaker 3:Yanny.
Speaker 1:I didn't alter that at all.
Speaker 2:I'd like to invite this kid on to the igniter. Nfl pick him show as a guest contributor please and he can wear as much face war pain as he wants to. I support you, Scotty. What else are we doing here?
Speaker 1:today. I was thinking you could play that clip anytime a wide receiver you don't like has a good game. Done touchdown, laurel. Well, I read that Jimmy Johnson, former coach of the Dallas Cowboys, speaking of Packers. Yeah, he's going to be inducted in the ring of honor at the end of the year, on December 30th.
Speaker 2:He deserved it. Scott, get into the stats, because I was reading these and I think this is a Hall of Fame worthy resume.
Speaker 1:Jimmy Johnson. He coached the Cowboys for five seasons from 89 to 1993, compiling a regular season record of 44 and 36 and a seven and one postseason mark winning back to back Super bowls before leaving the team like a boss.
Speaker 2:Well, did he leave it? Did he get fired from?
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, but yeah that's really not that great of a regular season record, is it?
Speaker 1:What was it again? 44 and 36. But did he help?
Speaker 2:put together the fleecing of the Minnesota Vikings in the Herschel Walker trade, or did he come after that?
Speaker 1:I think that was 1989.
Speaker 4:That wasn't born yet, so don't ask me.
Speaker 2:Dallas Cowboys yeah, I mean, I think it's the back to back. Super Bowls at Samantha Jameson, to your point. If you didn't have that, the resume in the regular season is not enough to get him into the can. The back to back, that's very difficult to do and I, like Jimmy Johnson, personality wise, is cool guy. I mean to have your hair on fleek for that many decades. That's gotta be where something.
Speaker 1:He's a pretty big car guy too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I'm not like I usually don't get into the whole. Here's the bust, but I have to assume the sculptor is going to have a fucking field day without hairdo. I mean, that might be like. That might be the most fun statue this fucking guy ever makes, or gallon whoever makes it. Seriously, I think it'd be interesting to see. I'm looking for because if they don't get, because he's known for his hair that fucking four cans of aquanet. That immovable object meets an unstoppable force. So if they don't nail that in the bus, they'll do it, fuck that, I'm not going to see it.
Speaker 1:Speaking of Cowboys, duran Bland. He had his fourth pick, six of the season, bland against Carolina. It ties the all time record of having four. Four is the most any players ever had in one single season. Four, six, six, excuse me.
Speaker 2:Oh great Would it be just a boring motherfucker too.
Speaker 1:The Ron Bland says it all. Fourth, six of season.
Speaker 2:So this guy is just a ballhawk and he runs him back for six points. Scotty, what do you think about that?
Speaker 1:I think he's he's in some good company. I don't even think Dion Sanders had that many.
Speaker 4:He is second other team in touchstones besides the quarterback.
Speaker 5:Yeah, right now is unreal.
Speaker 2:Right now Duran Bland has more pick sixes than Dion Sanders has. Toes 阱式. Duran Bland is pros dikk dioxide will aim for.
Speaker 3:Badd Korea has a penalty mark of ten.
Speaker 2:There he is there, he goes.
Speaker 1:He's lost a lot of toes. Get your, get your fire and ready, fire and finger. They're ready again, david.
Speaker 5:I'm ready.
Speaker 1:The Steelers had. Uh has not have. Them have been that good offensively as of late. So they went out ahead and uh fired Matt Canada their offensive. You think this is a good move, jameson?
Speaker 2:I think, scott, what we got to do is we can't just get the two, because when we're talking about this, we need to have this playing in the background, right? So we play the clip. This is learning opportunity. This isn't I'm not, this is me. This is me not poking the bear. We want, like, the full version, because as you talk about this, I am as soon as you start talking about the firing, I play it. It's now in the background, it's the soundtrack to you delivering the news. It becomes much more effective.
Speaker 1:Oh, I know we talked about that earlier. Should have just played what I gave you.
Speaker 2:That's what I, you told you gave me.
Speaker 1:I didn't hear anything, sorry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a, it's a it's one of the best produced podcast in the business. We're getting there little by little by season seven or eight, we should be good. All right, scotty. What else we're talking about today?
Speaker 1:What do you like? Whatever you like my man, Mark Andrews, who is that. Tight end.
Speaker 4:Baltimore tight end yeah, it's fine, probably top three in the league. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Is it pop to the top? Not anymore. I don't care.
Speaker 4:No one is injured, yep.
Speaker 2:Possibly return.
Speaker 4:So the NFL is going to look into hip tackles, apparently going forward to see if they can allot that now.
Speaker 2:So what's a hip tackle?
Speaker 4:one more way, I don't know.
Speaker 2:How will they tackle them? The hips are kind of like where the legs are.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You can shove them in the chest once.
Speaker 2:That sounds about right so we've got a lot of scuttle butt lately of players wanting to play flag football. Are we? Are we getting some, some inklings that maybe the league's moving to a flag football league? And this is just kind of the how they're. They're delivering the uh, they're telegraphing the.
Speaker 4:The move first seems to be going that direction. I'm not watching that.
Speaker 1:No, not watching it and I'm definitely not doing this show with that bullshit.
Speaker 2:No, can you imagine a podcast dedicated to a flag football league? Did you see the way you spun?
Speaker 1:We'll do one episode to just dog on it and then go back to the regular shit that we do.
Speaker 2:I'd rather watch the WNBA mechanics, mechanics, mechanics.
Speaker 1:But one one thing you do love hearing about is, uh, nfl players being naughty Um. This one we didn't talk about last week, but Jaguar is wide receiver Z Jones, yep.
Speaker 2:Love that guy. Oh no Instaminer Domestic battery charge.
Speaker 1:Z Scratch the mother of his child during a custody argument.
Speaker 2:Police report says scratched or gassed her. What is?
Speaker 4:scratch. I mean that scratched with his fingernail.
Speaker 1:Yeah, basically. Uh, they said the scratches on her neck were in conjunction with those made of a fingernail, so and he went in and he had a $2,500 bond and basically what happened? She was taking the kid back to Orlando. He didn't like it. They had some kind of argument and I was thinking myself is like is he trying to choke a bitch? He said he was on here.
Speaker 2:Here's my favorite part about Scott's notes. It literally says on a post it note as a question choking, a bitch question mark.
Speaker 4:Leave that line out.
Speaker 2:Fantastic yeah.
Speaker 1:I didn't want to forget to fucking drop that bomb. That was in case he wanted to say it.
Speaker 2:A $2,503 bond seems oddly specific.
Speaker 1:It was. That's not even a typo. I just said it is 2,500 because I didn't think it needs.
Speaker 2:This is how Scott spelled misdemeanor MSDMR, space D O M. Yeah, mr Battery Sounds like it sounds like Mr, mr Dom.
Speaker 1:It does kind of look like that when you say that.
Speaker 2:It's fine, Scott you know what?
Speaker 1:I've known you a long time. I posted shorthand for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's good, keep working on it. And then you have that in conjunction with this fucking William Wiler spectacular are above it.
Speaker 1:Tomlin said Tuesday it is oh no, no, no, that was that was we skip over that, just so we're clear.
Speaker 2:Mr M MSDMR, dom battery charge shorthand. Two rows above it, tomlin said. Tomlin said Tuesday at his weekly press conference, at running backs, coach the Faulkner will take over offensive coordinator duties with quarterbacks, coach Max Sullivan will take the bulk of the play calling responsibilities. None of that has been truncated or shortened.
Speaker 1:There's no shorthand to be found, that's do you want me to color code these? This one's only for Scott, in case you ask me follow up questions, because that was specifically for that.
Speaker 3:Scottie, you're going places.
Speaker 2:When I run for office. I want you to write all of my speeches for me. I can't, I can't read a fucking word of this. Well, did you look at it before you went to the point?
Speaker 5:and you know that I don't ain't got time, so mom was taking the kid back to Orlando.
Speaker 2:Probably good that she didn't write away Very shitty weather.
Speaker 1:Is it all tight?
Speaker 2:Yeah, z Jones is probably just concerned that the roads are going to be slick, trying to keep her around.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Hold her back.
Speaker 2:What is it with the long fingernails capable of scratching at all? Why do men have these? What happened, I remember, at one point, if you had a fingernail over like half an inch, people just assumed it was for Coke.
Speaker 1:Is it a cultural thing? That's so true.
Speaker 2:I've noticed a little bit. How great would it be if Scott got a job as the cultural reporter of the NFL. Scott Nyberg, white guy, cultural reporter.
Speaker 1:NFL I'm not going to get many black men bite their fingernails. Holy shit what.
Speaker 2:Just a disclaimer. Jameson and I are distancing ourselves from that comment all together. Why? I judge no one whether they bite or don't bite their fingernails. Yes, Speaking of your golden microphone rush to be fair.
Speaker 1:Nevermind, look at that, no fair.
Speaker 2:Look at this Scott actually thought about what he was going to say and stop them saying progress.
Speaker 1:There's nothing I could say.
Speaker 2:I don't think anything, that's correct Speaking of faux pas and crimes since Scott, you are a Jameson here. An interesting tidbit that Scott came up with yes, since the since 2000,. I want you to guess how many arrests have taken place in the NFL personnel since 2000.
Speaker 4:That's what 23 and a half years. How many? You got to go like 400.
Speaker 1:Oh not a bad guy.
Speaker 2:Respectable guess. Six hundred and sixty seven, that's a lot, that's a lot.
Speaker 1:That's now, that's through at least last season. I don't want you to leave a screen and cheat.
Speaker 4:I can't see it.
Speaker 2:Which NFL team has the most of those six?
Speaker 4:Got to be the Raiders, raiders.
Speaker 2:Right. Who else would you throw under that list?
Speaker 1:Penalties yes, probably.
Speaker 2:But like just just rough housing rabble, rousin, undisciplined teams.
Speaker 4:Redskins.
Speaker 2:Sure, yeah, I know who's the top Minnesota Vikings. Oh really, I think that the rowboat escapades on Lake Minnetaka just catapulted us to first place. Everybody in the boat, yeah, that was like 40 people in one shot. The I don't know what, what county that is over there, but I think that they made their nut that night. We're getting NVGs, we're getting a new boat, oh boy, what a night.
Speaker 2:They're good for a few years. We're getting drones. Hold on, Broncos have 54 and most of that is just a fashion faux pas and crimes against the fashion industry that Russell Wilson has been committing over the last couple years A couple years and then the Bengals with 50. One of those 50 was giving Joe Burr 200 and 200 and 19. Injury Guarantee $19 million in injury guarantees.
Speaker 1:I don't know who's number four on that list was 40 arrests. Was the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was a steep drop. Where are the Raiders on that list? Do we know they were not cleanest team in the league.
Speaker 1:Not that close.
Speaker 4:I mean they just go straight to killing people.
Speaker 2:It seems like they don't do small offenses.
Speaker 4:Yeah so that's yeah.
Speaker 2:It's a little bit saying like um, we only dropped two bombs on Japan, right? They just happen to be atomic bombs.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's how the Raiders do business. Makes sense, raiders. I'd like to know which team had the most murderers. I have to assume it might be. Well, oj Ravens, right, new England Patriots Cause. Yeah, what's his face murdering everybody? Oh, um, aaron.
Speaker 5:Hernandez for sure.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's got top the list.
Speaker 2:And then maybe we could play a new game segment, cte or just bad guy, that's a dark. It sucks for them with three murders confirmed Aaron Hernandez bad guy or CTE.
Speaker 1:Couldn't have been both.
Speaker 4:No, I want to. It's all bad guy.
Speaker 2:Put this together. We'll do a promo pack or a promo into it.
Speaker 4:Even.
Speaker 2:Tim Tebow couldn't say Fernandez, and he literally talks to God yeah, he's got.
Speaker 1:Yeah, tim Tebow, and LBs, why receivers were the worst of that list. David 158 were the divas of the NFL.
Speaker 2:It was not on that list.
Speaker 1:There weren't any. I looked no quarterbacks committing crime.
Speaker 2:They know better. Yeah, they were. Well, they're leaders. They're expected to be the guy.
Speaker 1:They have to set the tone. Mostly defense. Um yeah yeah, cornerbacks and linebackers were chief on the defense and then running backs. How about offensive?
Speaker 2:linemen. How are they represented?
Speaker 1:Probably not a lot either that's not much.
Speaker 2:Now here's an interesting one Offensive linemen, a defensive, protective oriented mindset I protect, I protect, I defend. Maybe just psychologically they're just not aligned to be violent.
Speaker 4:A lot of those guys are big teddy bears, right yeah.
Speaker 2:By the way, I want to talk about a great quarterback, Tom Brady. Did you see the comments he made recently to Stephen A Smith?
Speaker 4:No.
Speaker 2:Same thing that I've been saying that this season there's just not a lot of terrible, excellent football being played, a lot of mediocrity going on Downs are down.
Speaker 2:Well, and he, and he blames a lot of things. He says that the, the overall um, there's been a lack of discipline, that the uh units are not performing the way that they used to, there's a loss of focus, and so he was waxing poetic about this, but I've been saying this for the last probably four or five weeks that the product on the field has been a weird season. Yep, okay, so I can't pick a game to save my life and I lose all my money in wagers to you, but I am observant, and Tom Brady and I both saw the same thing For that we thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you for your service.
Speaker 1:Do you want to talk about the bikes or wait?
Speaker 2:until Monday night Pick. Uh, this team's not interesting to talk about anymore, but, uh, sure we can talk about when we get to the pig. Let's, let's jump into the. Yeah, the pig. So you ready for this? Yeah, would you like to have seen this? Have you heard about this? Let's go.
Speaker 1:Kicking off Thanksgiving week.
Speaker 5:Cowboys.
Speaker 1:First of the day will be Green Bay. At Detroit, the Peckers shall visit the Motor City, kiddies Seven and a half to Detroit. I've gone with that. I don't think there's a ton of talk about, but it might be more interesting than just that, because Detroit isn't Superman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean listen, detroit's going to win this game. They're close to clinching the NFC North and the deal is done, jamison.
Speaker 4:Well, I hope that it's going to be a closer game than what you guys are thinking, because the line's almost lost to the Bears last week, which is not a good sign.
Speaker 5:Well, we predicted that, though.
Speaker 4:That's true, we did, but the Packers have been playing better too, I think. I think they're going in the right direction, so, but it's not going to go with.
Speaker 1:Detroit. Okay, I was just going to push it down Packers for sure.
Speaker 4:No I wish.
Speaker 5:I could throw it across the board.
Speaker 1:All right. Second, on the Thanksgiving Day docket will be Washington visiting Dallas in a divisional matchup 11 to Dallas. Again this week I've gone with the home team because Washington is falling apart.
Speaker 2:Can we just all agree that Dallas is going to win this game. Bland gets another touchdown.
Speaker 4:He's Washington himself.
Speaker 1:All right, close it out. On Thursday night, thanksgiving game. San Francisco has the line seven or six and a half I've seen at Seattle. Seattle blew the fucking doors off of a possible comeback win last week. I think San Francisco is just going to show them how it really hurts to lose.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what do you think? I think that Tom Brady was right. This is a lot of unacceptable football being played this season and I'm bored even talking about it. I prefer the first part of this right. The first part of the show is fun, a little free form. We talk about things. The second half is just talking about games that they don't care about.
Speaker 1:A good producer. Lets you linger when you want.
Speaker 4:Don't take credit for this, Scott. Is that a shameless self plug?
Speaker 1:for yourself Sure was Absolutely.
Speaker 2:I like that tenacity. So yeah, San Francisco Jameson, Is there anything interesting you want to add to this?
Speaker 4:I will say Brock Brady had a couple of rocky games there, yeah, but he did fantastic last week, I think 20 or 20.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Perfect, he showed that he'd get 58. Yeah.
Speaker 4:He can play it. So yeah, 49ers are going to win this game for sure.
Speaker 2:Brock, fugly, fugly.
Speaker 1:All right Miami show. No doubt beat the hell out of the new Tim Hastings.
Speaker 2:Don't tell me how to feel.
Speaker 1:Jameson Miami's got the line 10 visiting the New York Jets. I've gone with the Dolphins. What was it? Tim Hastings? I forget the new backup quarterback.
Speaker 4:Tim Boil.
Speaker 1:Boil, tim Boil.
Speaker 4:X Packer Still not any good though.
Speaker 1:Nope, he's gotten very little Touchdown Packers.
Speaker 4:That was perfect. Yeah, dolphins win this game by a lot yeah.
Speaker 2:Dolphins. I don't think there's anything else to talk about. Who cares? All right, I fucking mind.
Speaker 1:Another divisional matchup, new Orleans going to Atlanta. This was one of those games that went one to the Atlanta home team or picking kind of a 50-50. I've gone with New Orleans I think Carl probably played it, even if he doesn't get Winston and Taysom Hill, that'd be fine. And Atlanta is going with Desmond Ritter for the rest of the season. So I don't trust that.
Speaker 4:Yeah. What's the reasoning behind that? I wonder Stupidity. They put Taylor Heinecke in there for what? Two, three weeks, and then they pull him back out.
Speaker 5:Right why give it up on the season.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what's a white man supposed to do? I would rather watch the on.
Speaker 2:Sanders get his toes amputated, and I fucking mean it. I don't I'm not saying I want them to be amputated, I'm just saying I would rather watch it. A morbid curiosity. Oh, fuck, yeah. What happens? What do they do? Do they tie like a floss around it to cut off the blood supply? And then they, you see black rain. Right, Scotty? Yeah, remember when I've never understood. Remember, at the end of the movie, when Sato cuts his finger off to appease the Uyjaban, but then right after that is guys come in and shoot the hell out all the, the Yakuza. Two things that have always bothered me about that Well, that have come from that One. Could you cut your finger off If it, if it's enough, was that steak? Could you take the Katana, the daikana, and cut your own dig of? Could you do it?
Speaker 1:They say it's difficult to self harm, but if the situation would get you, I think so.
Speaker 2:What about a truck? What about a truck full of cigarettes? Would you do it for that? Secondly, secondly, if his men are going to come in and wax everybody anyway, why cut the finger off?
Speaker 1:Agreed, honored.
Speaker 5:Oh, some kind of.
Speaker 1:Japanese.
Speaker 2:Yeah, some sort of weird ritualistic. Bushido code All right, are we all taking New Orleans?
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 1:Oh, no Ritter fans out there.
Speaker 2:Nope.
Speaker 1:All right, so Cincinnati with Jake. What was it again Chump? Pittsburgh is going to Cincinnati. Pittsburgh has a line of one, with their new offensive coordinator stepping in.
Speaker 2:That's the Steelers have the new offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1:Pittsburgh. Yeah, that's what I said Pittsburgh at Cincinnati, sorry. Anyway, I've gone with Cincinnati on this one because this game sucks, it's at home and I'm just taking a flyer. I'm going to take Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2:Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1:I agree, but.
Speaker 4:I agree, but I'm going to go different.
Speaker 5:I am.
Speaker 2:I agree, it's my upset.
Speaker 1:All right In a game that no one wants to watch. Carolina Panthers shall go to the Tennessee Tennessee.
Speaker 5:Oh, fuck's sake.
Speaker 1:Tennessee Titans have the line for at home. I'm going with the Titans Tennessee.
Speaker 2:Tinnitus.
Speaker 1:Tinnitus. I don't know exactly why, other than just they're the home team.
Speaker 4:on that one I got no there's no reasoning for this game, for anything. No one cares.
Speaker 5:Thank you.
Speaker 4:Titans should win, but who knows who you taking Titans, are we all?
Speaker 2:taking the Titans Looks that way.
Speaker 5:Hmm.
Speaker 1:Well, it works out fine, since there's no buys this week, so we have all the games Tampa.
Speaker 5:Bay Any trams.
Speaker 1:I don't know what you mean by that. I think that's as far as I'm willing to go with that one Sounds good. That's what they said. Tampa Bay at Indianapolis. Indianapolis Colts have the line at home Two and a half. I have gone with the visiting team Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, baker Mayfield's actually played pretty decent this year. I think he's making a case that he should be the starter next year, though I still submit to you that their head coach, tony, was that coaching Tampa.
Speaker 1:No, you said oh fuck's sake.
Speaker 2:What's his name?
Speaker 4:What's his?
Speaker 1:name.
Speaker 2:His name is something.
Speaker 1:This we know, Fucking airs Coach Todd Bowles was it.
Speaker 2:Todd Bowles might be the most least interesting, or? Certainly the most least interested person I've ever seen on a sideline before. It doesn't matter what's happening. It could be up, they could be down, they could be way down they could be getting fucking murdered, and he looks completely indifferent to what's happening on the field. I too.
Speaker 1:Exactly the photo of that Google popped up on him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's just yeah at least not even apathy. I mean, at least Jay Cutler was interesting on the sideline. A lot of photo shopping of cigarettes into his mouth made that far more entertaining than it should have been. I'm going to go with the box, the fucking ears as well, where you at there, jameson.
Speaker 4:I'm actually going to Tampa Bay as well.
Speaker 2:Okay, scott, go ahead. Interesting Slay the games this week, a lot at stake.
Speaker 1:Here's a shitter of the week. We got the New England Patriots going to the New York Giants. New England has a line of three and the visiting. Again, I'm going to take a flyer on this one. I'm going with the home team. Tommy DeVito looked pretty good last week and I know he won't do his good this week. But whatever, I'm going to take the Patriots.
Speaker 2:I think the most interesting thing happening on a new England right now is these ungrateful shits in New England are calling for Bill Belichick to be fired. You do not fire Bill Belichick halfway through the season. You allow him to finish the season and let him walk away with dignity because he's given you everything, you ungrateful fox.
Speaker 4:I agree with that. What I heard on a show this morning, though, was that they're actually going to trade him after the season because they own the rights to Bill Belichick. So to do him a justice of trying to get him the the, the record of all time wins, they're going to trade him somewhere else. Is what they're saying. Here's the deal. Tell me what you think.
Speaker 2:I think, uh, let me make a, uh, just a, a play. Mr Belichick, we know you love to listen to the show. I will personally cut the sleeves off your Minnesota Viking sweatshirts. I will do it for you. You would look so good. You are a noble man, you're a regal man in color purple is the color of royalty, and that you most certainly are. Come to Minnesota and teach this team how to finish a fucking drive and to close out a team at home or on the road. Bill Belichick 2024.
Speaker 4:I hate to say, but what I've heard is he's going to go to the chargers. That makes sense. It does make sense. Um, but for this game I'm going with Patriots.
Speaker 2:I'm going to take the Patriots as well. I think Bill Belichick's got the Giants number.
Speaker 4:He's still a good coach. Yeah, it's a great coach.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's, that's the correct pick, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm taking them with, doing them Patrons. Yeah, I'm going to train me up to San Diego. Why? There's always nice here at 72 and sunny. Today, on to San Diego.
Speaker 1:They'll move it the whole team right back there, just for him.
Speaker 2:I'm only going to go to San Diego if they move the team back to San Diego.
Speaker 4:Makes sense.
Speaker 2:And Bobby Schmurder has to cut his hair, and I like it.
Speaker 1:No, deal I hated it.
Speaker 2:one time I had longer.
Speaker 4:It's very bad.
Speaker 1:All right, are you still going?
Speaker 2:No, I'm good, on to the next pick.
Speaker 1:Game of the one of the games of the week Um. Jacksonville at Houston should be a good divisional matchup. Jacksonville has got a slight line right now One and a half.
Speaker 2:I have decided to go with the Houston Texans just now just so we're clear the most interesting game this week is Houston. Thus far in Jacksonville. That's what's going on in the NFL this year. This is the barn burner. I'm a big believer in Trevor Lawrence. Uh, Foxy J Stroud.
Speaker 4:How can you say that Come on, huh, you're doing so good I like Trevor.
Speaker 1:Lawrence Did real good this last week.
Speaker 2:I'm going to take a and a game that I could really get two shits about. I'm going to take the Jacksonville Jaguars, jaguars, jaguars, jaguars. How many?
Speaker 5:syllables. Has that got that?
Speaker 2:whatever, what? Three or four, whatever you like, this audience can't handle my pleasures. Jacksonville Jaguars Doug Pederson for the victory.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm a little bit nervous about picking the Jaguars, just for the simple fact that I'm picking all the same picks as David this week.
Speaker 2:That's a good sign.
Speaker 1:Doesn't it make you a little nerve?
Speaker 4:Clearly great minds think alike because my heart tells me Texans. But I'm not going to do it. I'm going with the Jaguars.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's what I'm talking about Scott's going to have another good week.
Speaker 1:It's going to be like a couple of weeks ago when we all just kind of evened out anyway.
Speaker 2:It's almost like we charitably just give and I mean weak, because I think you and I are always in contention for the top spot Like we always just give Scott the the runway he needs to take flight and just sneak in there at the very end.
Speaker 4:We don't want to let him go to another show, so we're oh, he's not going.
Speaker 2:We own the rights to Scott. Like Bill Belichick, we own the rights to Scott.
Speaker 4:That's right I get traded.
Speaker 1:I get traded at Joe Rogan. They just put me on waivers. I'm on every year for me again.
Speaker 2:We will field off as offers for jet ski One of the way to take that. Yeah, Wave runner three person.
Speaker 1:The Denver Broncos shall be hosting Cleveland with their new quarterback there, cleveland. I think the Denver Broncos will probably win this one. It's going to be gross, but what do you think?
Speaker 2:I think the bill Belichick was once the coach of the Cleveland Browns. Do you remember that? For about three hours, nope, yep. Okay, been a lot to talk about Russell Wilson, but the fact of the matter is they're playing all right, so hit the longest win streak in the NFL right now at the expense of the Minnesota Vikings which only? Makes sense. What do we think of this game, gentlemen, I'm a little interested. Jameson, break it down for me. Where's your head at?
Speaker 4:I like where the Broncos are going. Yes, indescendancy yeah, they're going the right direction. I think the Cleveland Browns are going in the wrong direction with losing Watson.
Speaker 2:Is Jacobi Bresseth their backup Still not Is it Flacco?
Speaker 4:PJ Walker.
Speaker 1:Who are these people? Walker is not playing, though he's not, no, and then they have Dorian Peoples, johnson, robins I can't remember the fucking name oh, the three name guy.
Speaker 4:I think he said Peoples Jones earlier. He's a receiver.
Speaker 1:You know what I meant. But yeah, PJ Walker is what I meant. I think you need to snap out of me Just trying to make a point. Because he mentioned. I said Donovan Peoples Jones because that is a receiver.
Speaker 2:I'd be more impressed if it was Donovan McNab. I'm going to take the Broncos here. I agree, broncos, who'd Scotty take? Huh, broncos. I like when we're all in alignment, because that way if it's a loss, it's a loss for all of us and I feel OK about it.
Speaker 1:All right, another divisional matchup, maybe a shitter of the week, probably, oh, la Rams at the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 2:I don't care.
Speaker 1:I've seen them at Flipham, pickham, one and a half to the Cardinals. I've seen going with the Cardinals at home.
Speaker 4:Probably yeah.
Speaker 2:OK, what are you taking, jameson?
Speaker 4:I'm going with the Cardinals just because they're at home too.
Speaker 2:Great, I need a couple wins. I'm going to take the Rams. It just seems if a game could go my way, it's this one.
Speaker 4:True.
Speaker 2:OK, who cares?
Speaker 1:Divisional matchup has Kansas City going to Las Vegas. Nine and a half to the Chiefs. I've gone with that. Not a big leap of faith.
Speaker 4:Kansas City.
Speaker 2:Kansas City. Yeah, I think that they're going to. They're pissed at that second half performance and Kelsey would like to guarantee that he gets at least another three, four months with Taylor. This is his opportunity.
Speaker 4:Did you see the game?
Speaker 2:Which one?
Speaker 4:The Chiefs game. I did not, so no on the last drive.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Marquez Valdes Gantling.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Wide open.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Off his hands for a touchdown and misses it yeah. Just the most embarrassing thing you could do.
Speaker 2:So Kansas City should have won.
Speaker 4:Oh, absolutely, they should have. Yeah, at that point.
Speaker 2:Mahomes, mahomes to the best quarterback in the NFL. Correct yeah.
Speaker 4:The last play, I think was fourth and 20 or 25. Again, he, if the guy would have caught it as first down there.
Speaker 2:So this is where you miss Tyree Kill. Oh because he catches that ball yeah.
Speaker 1:Shit. Even didn't play the whole game last week, you still managed over a hundred in the touchdown. That's a hell of a guy right there the Tyree Kill.
Speaker 2:That guy can jam man Cheetah. Fun to watch him play.
Speaker 1:All right, another game of the week, as I had tantalized about earlier, buffalo going to Philadelphia. Philadelphia has the line at home Three and a half.
Speaker 5:I've gone with the Eagles in this one.
Speaker 1:I don't think it'll be anything but a shootout. What do you think?
Speaker 2:I don't think that. Listen, I've said this before. I don't think the Buffalo Bills are particularly consistent, or they they're very good. This year, philadelphia has proven to be a grinder of a team, though they just find ways to drag them out, grind it out and win. I'm going to take the Eagles as well.
Speaker 4:The Bills did kick ass last week against the Jets. They do that, though, and Josh Allen claims that he's back. Ok.
Speaker 3:That's what he said. Yeah, he's back.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't believe it. I'm going with the Eagles.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that that's right. Unanimous pick against the Bills.
Speaker 1:Wow, interesting. I was surprised. I figured, jameson, you just go that way. Baltimore has the line for going to the aforementioned Chargers. This what Belichick's going to go there? Not right away. So I think the rain might be the game that he should show up over there. They could do this week. Yeah, rave, excuse me. Lamar Jackson said he's fine, he's 100 percent, so he's going to be rocking and rolling again. The Ravens.
Speaker 2:I'm going to pick for everybody. The Ravens are going to win this game. Old Scotty, you good, that sounds good. Sold Hashtag, who cares?
Speaker 1:Now in your favorite game of the week, the football game, minnesota Vikings three and a half at home hosting the Chicago Bears. I've gone with the Vikings at home, given them 35 for my total points. Maybe I think can't. Can't bind them as happy as wife. You got her back in town. You did. Amy Klobuchar yeah, she's here now.
Speaker 2:Oh good we got her done. I think that was because I don't know if she took we helped. Yeah, yeah, she took some of my advice, the show's advice, but she is here now and we certainly listen. Did we put out in the universe? If you watch the secret on Netflix, you know you projected into the universe. We did that Maybe days later in the United States, I think, amy.
Speaker 1:Klobuchar is a fan of our trust me. She is not.
Speaker 2:She hates everything we stand for.
Speaker 1:Maybe Tina Smith. They're the Minnesota senators that went out and got her, got some help and got her back home.
Speaker 2:Super dupe. Yeah, yeah, Listen. Mail order bride, a shifter from the Philippines to Minnesota. She's here now. She's having a good old time. They're a happy, beautiful young couple. I wish them all the best. It was actually a pretty good storyline this year. I'm pleased to how it turned out. It's literally the only information that Scott has on the board is five post-it notes dedicated to cam by an of the wife. That's the only Minnesota Vikings. Oh, there is one more.
Speaker 1:One more there's two more Wanted to ask how our bikes did last week earlier, but you know no.
Speaker 2:You know, I think that the new car smell might be coming off of Josh Dobbs. He's he's a mobile quarterback, he's got a decent arm, but he throws balls into shitty positions. We lack ball security. I think now what three, four times we've had a first drive fumble this year.
Speaker 4:That looked bad.
Speaker 2:And so that shot on on Dobbs in the beginning was an illegal hit of which I can't remember his name, but he suspended another four games for that.
Speaker 1:He did that earlier this year too, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I don't know. It's the Minnesota Vikings. I mean they're going to win a couple of more. They may, they may squeak in with the wild card. I don't know. I don't know. I just don't know. I don't know. The the team is, it's got issues and in Kirk Cousins isn't going to go anywhere. The rumor that I keep hearing is that he's going to be here for at least another two, three years. He's coming back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so I mean I hope that we're all prepared to watch a highly compensated team with a bunch of all pro talent that can't win in the playoffs, because that's what you're going to get. It's a Minnesota Vikings Year after year, Year after year after year. So and, by the way, Chicago always plays this kind of tough it's never a gimme. Fields has been interesting the last couple of weeks. There's a fire in this kid's belly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he said a weird season, but he has, but when?
Speaker 2:you watch him. He I mean he wants to win. He's not happy.
Speaker 4:He doesn't want to go back to the bench, yeah, right.
Speaker 1:And that's his proper, because he's had a lot of that shitty body language over the last years or two where it's like he's just a fucking loser, but I like, I like to see that in him.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it makes a whole lot of difference. I'll take the Minnesota Vikings Jameson where you at with this real quick.
Speaker 4:What's the scoop with Jefferson still not playing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, what's going on with that? He was supposed to be back like two games ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's hanging out. He said it doesn't give a shit about fantasy football, so I did see that too, but I mean, it's been what?
Speaker 4:five weeks now Right.
Speaker 2:Like this is a long time. This is, this was. It's not like he. There was nothing broke right.
Speaker 1:He pulled this is a hamstring, wasn't it? But that's one of those injuries that could go this way.
Speaker 4:I mean, I know it lingers Probably being like but they why?
Speaker 1:why push it? They were winning, you know.
Speaker 4:But at some point you got to have your main receiver out there to win. I agree.
Speaker 2:Well, this is an Addison's getting all he needs right now to make a case that he can, you know, a worthy primary receiver in the NFL and he will be.
Speaker 5:He will be.
Speaker 2:He's very good, absolutely. Also, I'd like to say that Hawkinson has looked pretty dang good over the last couple Better Playing well, yep. I don't know if he's worthy, he's still.
Speaker 1:He's not worth number one tight end money, correct, yep, he still had some fucks up.
Speaker 2:You know they're, they're and I'm warming a little bit on on Kevin McConnell. A little bit, Tell me more.
Speaker 5:Well.
Speaker 2:I think that he is coalition building and building a locker room based around trust and relatability. These are things that I like to employ in my own life. You know what I mean. Treat people well. She with respect, not Scott, but everybody else, obviously Um, and so I. I I want to root for these guys, but I think that the problem is that when you enter your middle 40s and you're in, your favorite sports team still has never won anything meaningful, it's hard not to be jaded.
Speaker 2:And when I look at the, the, the simplistic Minnesota Vikings fan who celebrates silver linings and not accomplishments, it really does set me off and put me into a shitty spot. So I want them to do well, but they keep making decisions and they keep doing things from a front office perspective that I don't agree with. I think that signing Kirk cousins to a long-term deal at big money is a mistake, depending on how it impacts the cap. There could be some things done creatively there. If I'm Kirk cousins, I fleece this team for enough. If you're that good, tie it to incentives around performance, earn it a little bit and help this team fucking win. Do the Brady thing. Give them the cap space they need to go, get the players and put around you, cause the other thing that I keep hearing time and time again with Kirk is he just never had this. If he just had that, then he would have won. If he just had this, the guys has just a ton of excuses made for him. So, kirk, do us all a favor structure your deal in a way that gives men's a the opportunity to sign and put pieces in place to give you the absolute leverage and opportunity you need to win. Let's see this team at its best and then let them go compete and let's see and let the chips fall where they may.
Speaker 2:I Just don't know. I don't know. I've just never seen this team run particularly well Since night. 98 was about that, the pinnacle of Minnesota Viking football. For me, brett farve coming to town and putting a couple hot ones up Green Bay's ass was fantastic. That's the last time I celebrated the non-victory the field. Good story right.
Speaker 5:This is the tertiary stuff.
Speaker 2:I need the Vikings to get serious and start winning things meaningfully, because they all they as far as I'm concerned, historically One of the best teams that never won anything. Right, correct, yeah? And we haven't been to a Super Bowl now? In what 30 years?
Speaker 4:One was last one. Fran target in the 80s.
Speaker 1:I'll be 30 something yeah it's gonna be 30 some years over 30.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, we need something here. Okay, and so, if Kirk is going to be the answer, I Need him to stop doing fucking netflix specials, I need him to stop going to baseball games in the middle of the fucking season and need him to put another set of electrodes on that brain of his and Consume all the knowledge and dedicate himself to his craft and structure. A fucking deal that's friendly enough to put places in place to give us the best chance of winning, and then we'll go see what we see, but until then, I'm gonna be a bit of a glass is half empty with this fucking team. See a total score for you.
Speaker 2:They're still gonna win this week. They will yeah, total score 17. Oh 14 3. Hey, I'm being serious. Two touchdowns for the Minnesota Vikings and a fucking field goal for the Bears.
Speaker 4:I'm gonna go Vikings to 37, 20 to 17.
Speaker 2:Okay, scott got a school I would you want it.
Speaker 1:No, I already picked 35.
Speaker 2:It's fine, oh would it be better if we rolled to 10-sided die. It's fine.
Speaker 1:Okay, shit, oh, no, no.
Speaker 2:I guess just to regular dice, and we just randomized the point totals Because the problem is the scots at the complete mercy of being first person to go. I'll be honest.
Speaker 4:I didn't. I didn't hear him say 35 when I picked mine no it's fine, you can fuck them all day long.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's fine with me. I'm just saying philosophically, would it be better if we randomized the point totals a little bit?
Speaker 4:Well, at the end of the day, a winning the week really doesn't mean anything. We're still going with total points, right?
Speaker 2:So don't mean that thing if it ain't got that swing. Am I right, Scotty?
Speaker 1:It's fun. I've won three, four weeks in a row. It's fun. And you know you have as well Jameson. You know how good that feels.
Speaker 4:Scotty, I know. But everything but David knows how to win. I tried to win a life a week.
Speaker 2:I try to listen.
Speaker 1:I was just drinking tequila and a cave of an up, cut you do, all right, yeah, yeah, we're having a good life. You know the cave vacation.
Speaker 2:Scotty, I'm staring down the barrel of one last sound that I haven't played yet the Watson TD. What is this and why haven't we played that was?
Speaker 1:that was the longer one. You're supposed to play that and then the shorter one, but we didn't have an on early me before the Wix Love watching open.
Speaker 3:Watson Got it, touchdown Peckers.
Speaker 1:And then you would have played. Wouldn't that have been funny? And I just like the the shoulder Touchdown Peckers. I figured you would mash that one after you had played the earlier one. It's a nice one to punch. It would have been a nice setup, Instead of you saying I should have done it differently.
Speaker 2:Is Watson from Canada? I don't believe so. Okay, there goes that, scotty. What else are we talking about? Is that it?
Speaker 1:That should be about it. We're all through the games. We've talked to all the goodies. Unless you want to have a quick little bitch rant about what you hate about the NFL, just a little fun thing.
Speaker 2:What I hate about the NFL right now is just how mediocre it is. Oh, and also, the team celebrations must come to an end, agreed.
Speaker 4:It's a fumble recovery.
Speaker 2:It's a fumble recovery. Do we really have to coordinate opposing for a picture in the end zone? And how many times must this happen before it's lost? It's luster, remember, you know, tarell Owens. Hold on, who's the guy that running back in Dallas? Tarell Davis. You know what he did, Sorry sorry, never.
Speaker 1:Tarell Owens was a wide receiver, lots of places, but I was talking about Jesse Owens.
Speaker 2:Tarell Davis would score a touchdown. He'd salute the fans and get his butt back to the end zone. Remember what Barry Sanders used to do Flip the ball to the referee and run his ass right back to the sideline. I love it. Rice too there. There is too much self aggrandizing happening in professional sports, too much martyrdom, too much nonsense. It might be why I feel like listen, we're celebrating. We're celebrating more and performing less. I think it's okay to just be dedicated to your craft and the showboating and the message that you're trying to send is that of, of of your play on the field, because what it looks like to me is that you're spending copious amounts of time coming up with cool new handshakes and and and uh, synchronized team celebrations for everything.
Speaker 1:And what did, uh? What did Billy Hoyle say? He'd rather look good and lose than look bad and win. Right.
Speaker 2:I mean, at some point it's just becoming too much Uh and and it and it. I think it it cheapens the league. Um, play better, put up better stats, win the Minnesota Vikings. I don't want to watch you celebrate. You haven't won anything. Go play. Be serious about what you're doing. Uh and enough with the showboating bullshit. It's, it's just not earned. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5:Here, here, yep. That's what I hate about the fucking.
Speaker 2:NFL right now. And also, I'd like to have a stop having fans punched and die in the stadium. That's the other thing too. Uh, can we stop with the whole violence at the NFL stadiums? You got families, you got kids. It's a ton of money to go see these games. If you can't hold your fucking liquor, then don't drink, okay.
Speaker 1:Well, how much are you spending on that too? Fuck's sake, how much it costs to fucking get drunk at a game.
Speaker 2:I mean you. Here's another thing too when someone shows up in the at your stadium wearing the opposing teams Jersey, say, hey, how you doing when you from Good conversation, Give them grief a little bit. Oh, hey, good game, Shake their hand and walk on. This whole thing we're doing where we're treating people like shit and they're in a different tribe and therefore it justifies whatever rotten, heinous activity and behavior.
Speaker 1:I've had. We don't need to punch someone if the Packers get a touchdown. Fuck, and this is for America in general.
Speaker 2:I was just going to say that, yeah.
Speaker 5:Bro, fuck up.
Speaker 2:I mean, there I got, I got videos of, of, of parents, you know, fighting their, their children's bullies. It's, it's gross People dragging around each other by the fucking hair, not accepting responsibility for their bullshit, like I don't know what's going on, but it has clearly found its its way into sports and I'm tired of it. Bill Maher had a great line in his show the other day. He's like sometimes, most times, it's fine, no opinion, Just shut the fuck up. Yeah, tired of it, wouldn't that be?
Speaker 4:nice. Yeah, it was a good episode. It was a good episode.
Speaker 2:The what's a down in Brazil is a fucking lunatic.
Speaker 1:She is a lunatic and she seems hot to trot for Bill a lot of times. Yeah, very flirty.
Speaker 2:Chris sits on those really proud of her she goes. Can you imagine if a guy went onto a woman's hosted show and pulled the shit that down in Brazil pulls the sexualized nature of their conversations, debating the guy to stop her like six times?
Speaker 1:too. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know why he has the bitch.
Speaker 2:I really don't get it. She's got nothing of value to lend. And then that another Adam Kinzinger Talk about a rhino. I mean you know, wow, Good episode. It would have been an episode if I never saw those two on it again. That's true. I'm waiting in the waters in our mind. I'm jet lagged.
Speaker 1:Albert Brooks and Carl and Mel Brooks.
Speaker 2:They were all right too. Not funny anymore. I love Albert Brooks and I was not impressed. No, scotty, we got to get a normal show again, pop culture, so we can talk about this stuff in context. Would that be good? That's right? All right, let's do it.
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