You know that feeling when you're reminiscing about the good old days? That's exactly how Scott and I felt during this episode as we took a trip down memory lane, reminiscing about our childhood freedom and how it contrasts with today's over-protective parenting. We even got a chance to discuss Scott's latest venture with Waldoch, a custom van and truck manufacturer.
But it's not all about nostalgia here. We also dive headfirst into the latest NFL news, including Kevin McConnell's appointment as the Vikings' new coach and the record-breaking performance by CJ Stroud. From the controversial 'tush push' to the impact of players like Colin Kaepernick, Keenan Allen, and Kyler Murray on the game, we've got all the football talk you could ask for.
We round off this episode with a hearty discussion on the potential of Vikings' playoffs, analyzing their schedule and key players. We also have a surprise debate on the recent suspension of Martavis Bryant for substance abuse, the XFL's leniency, and the emotions that come into play in the NFL. So come join us for this episode filled with sports analysis, childhood memories, and in-depth discussions that will satiate your NFL cravings.
Ideas, rage, praise, dirt? Send it to igntrnetwork@gmail.com
You know that feeling when you're reminiscing about the good old days? That's exactly how Scott and I felt during this episode as we took a trip down memory lane, reminiscing about our childhood freedom and how it contrasts with today's over-protective parenting. We even got a chance to discuss Scott's latest venture with Waldoch, a custom van and truck manufacturer.
But it's not all about nostalgia here. We also dive headfirst into the latest NFL news, including Kevin McConnell's appointment as the Vikings' new coach and the record-breaking performance by CJ Stroud. From the controversial 'tush push' to the impact of players like Colin Kaepernick, Keenan Allen, and Kyler Murray on the game, we've got all the football talk you could ask for.
We round off this episode with a hearty discussion on the potential of Vikings' playoffs, analyzing their schedule and key players. We also have a surprise debate on the recent suspension of Martavis Bryant for substance abuse, the XFL's leniency, and the emotions that come into play in the NFL. So come join us for this episode filled with sports analysis, childhood memories, and in-depth discussions that will satiate your NFL cravings.
Ideas, rage, praise, dirt? Send it to igntrnetwork@gmail.com
Live from the igniter bunker deep deep under cold spring Minnesota. It's the NFL Pick-Em Show With your host, the two-time boatman of the year and 2023 cold spring Lions golf scramble champion, shukr Ulster, signed in studio by the big-ween Jameson wall oh my god and remotely from their smoke stain shed. Interim producer Scott Nyberg. Nfl analysis and inside information from across the league meant to edify and entertain the igniter NFL Pick-Em Show, and it starts now. Are you? Ready for some football? We're ready for some football, baby.
Speaker 3:Good evening everyone. Shukr here, and joined by Scott and Jameson, you're listening to the igniter NFL Pick-Em Show. This is officially week 10. You know, I always say is that this episode 11 is an episode 10. I have gotten some emails saying we're a little bit confused over what episode is germane to the week that we're watching, to which I say just listen to the entire hour and a half and you'll know. But apparently people are just kind of skimming through it. So we're gonna be very clear this is week 10. Scott, good to be with you. Jameson, you too. It's been an interesting week. Gonna have a whole bunch to talk about. Today, vikings had a ton going on those online crowning. Kurt what's his name? Our coach, mcconnell, kevin, kevin, yeah, the greatest coach of all time for his ability to translate plays to a rocket scientist who has been not, I think, hale with a really great nickname, the pastor not which I have to say is pretty good.
Speaker 3:I like that yeah, so this is very good great yeah, very, very good. It's gonna be interesting. It's been interesting week in the NFL. We got a lot of story lines to cover CJ Stroud absolutely going off, potentially breaking some records. Carson Wentz somewhere. I have to assume that Colin Kaepernick is scratching his head and going if he can get a job why can't I shame yeah? It really does tell you how the going along is more important than actual skill in the NFL we're talking about Keenan Allen, a little bit about Kyler Murray and then we're gonna talk about the tush push.
Speaker 3:This is a chicanery and trickery that just won't seem to go away. The NFL is obsessed with it. Discussions around shall we ban it? I know Scott and I spent the better part of about 30 minutes of the day on a road trip just coming up with different names for it, like what would we call the tush push in every NFL franchise in the United States and so we've got.
Speaker 3:I don't really be talking about there, but I'm sure it'll be good. I'm very excited to be here with you guys. Scotty, highlights of the week. I know that you have started a new job. Would you like to tell us all a little bit about that?
Speaker 6:yeah, it's with a custom van and truck manufacturer Waldoch, you've heard the name, I'm sure.
Speaker 3:I thought it was funny because when he said that, I remember specifically thinking like back in the 90s. Remember those big Waldoch conversion vans you see those yeah, I had no idea they were actually still doing this what are you what? Are you converting now?
Speaker 6:so they have a. They have a pretty big account with pest control plunket so they'll outfit their trucks and their vans and also there's a lot of shuttle buses and super duty heavy trucks that go out to various dealerships around the country and world. So they they're a really big, smaller kind of outfit. I mean they're a smaller knit group. I don't think they have too many employees but, yeah, not a big corporate influence. They seem really really genuine and a great place to work.
Speaker 3:I had a hell of a time many, many years ago and Chris and I first started dating my dad not good for much, but he had a Waldoch conversion big van and we took a camping and it was amazing at a.
Speaker 6:TV Chicago on a road trip with the family once when I was eight, absolutely in a Waldoch conversion, yeah, something like that with the the table. So much room.
Speaker 3:Everyone just wanted to move around. No one had seatbelt on it, was it? Was.
Speaker 3:It was just a you know one one human error away from being the end of an entire generation, the good old days yeah, we're greaties we were talking about that the other day, or the buddy of mine when I was a kid. I remember me and six kids in the back of a Ford pickup sitting on a bail, a hay, doing 90 miles an hour down a country road, dad swerving around, probably drinking, probably drinking a tall boy. It's wonder I've got anxiety problems today.
Speaker 6:James, you survived, yeah well, you think about the world today, and what a stark contrast. I mean, that's almost anarchy. You know, when you describe it that way, it's the complete opposite of the coin, right?
Speaker 3:lived on the regular edge of safety. We had conferences for a for Sawyer. We went there yesterday I'm not going to say whose teacher is and I'm not going to be specific about the, the students of which he was casting and spursions but she said you know, you guys have really done a good job with him and the subject of we were talking about upbringing, the subject of tasks, responsibilities and chores came up and she's like so he says he does a lots of chores at home and I go oh yeah, on the weekends I'll make his own lunch. Laundry some light dusting, litter, picks up sticks in the yard, does some weed lacking that does the dishes get any more ideas, you email him to DHH.
Speaker 6:Dj H, I am doing floor cleaning.
Speaker 3:I mean he basically does all cleans the bathroom both of them do and she's like, yeah, I've got kids whose parents ask them to do nothing and you can tell. So if you're, if you're listening to this, folks a, spear the rod and spoil the child. Give that kid a job. Scotty, I I've been putting this off long enough. I've got some trepidation going into the pick segment or the results from last week's picks not good. And then, scotty also, I think, as just a little fuck, you left the David regressing post-it note on the board and I don't know if he's foreshadowing or if he's just telling me to fuck myself.
Speaker 6:That was a simple oversight, all right, well, just all right, let's.
Speaker 3:Let's not delay the inevitable. Scotty, why don't you deliver the news?
Speaker 6:for the first week in a while the the spread beat us. None of us picked with the spread. If we had, we would have got 12 points. Oh yeah, you would. You and Jameson did tie. I will tell you that?
Speaker 3:yeah, but that's that. But that he's not saying that we wouldn't. We won. I think he won. He's just saying we tied for last place. This is what he does clever girl.
Speaker 6:I got, I got, I got 10. It was me boo. Yeah, everyone hates Scott winning boo, but I did catch a one, one game on you this week, jameson, at least so what did we have a nine nine each for you to okay and we had some divergent picks last week so I thought we both ended at nine.
Speaker 6:Very interesting they all kind of came back around. Yeah, two, because I think earlier in the in the games, yes, exactly that. But none of us picked the ass whooping the Chargers pick, put on the jets. Actors didn't fuck me no they fucked me this week.
Speaker 3:Viking fucked me.
Speaker 6:I texted David after I had spoken him saying hey, I think you fucking take the packers, you know, or the Rams or whatever he's like, nah, and as it turns out it was Jameson. But David did pick Buffalo and that did screw them over weird, weird things happening.
Speaker 3:And, by the way, how impressive was Kansas City in Germany being able to do what they did against Miami just when you thought that they may be teetering a little bit, and it's funny they're not even playing their best football and yet still doing quite well.
Speaker 6:It'll be the best football Frankfurt sees this year, because this week's game is yeah well, hey, congratulations, scott.
Speaker 3:Never has something better happen to a worse person, so congratulations.
Speaker 6:I did want to mention, just because I'm a prick, the bet regarding Jaren Hall you might want to put on the shelf, because but that's up to you guys, I only bring it up just because it was a thing and technically he didn't play yeah, technically really didn't play, didn't have an opportunity.
Speaker 4:I saw him play one quarter a quarter of a possession yeah, he saw the whole game in his head.
Speaker 3:He might not play again all year. The way Dobbs went out there and fucking flung the ball around they said he's gonna rock Dobbs.
Speaker 6:For they're gonna rock Dobbs, he's definitely gonna start right now.
Speaker 3:I guess gives them a good chance to win. We'll talk about that a little bit. As well as we get, actually, we go right into the we do. How do we want to handle Vikings news? I'm always confused should it happen now or should it happen when we get to the Vikings?
Speaker 6:well, usually the Vikings have an early game and we picked that a couple games in, and this week is no different. So I think it's like three, four games in. So if you want to, all right.
Speaker 3:Well, listen, let's just. Let's just go with Dobbs, we'll get right into it. Okay, I was not, and I'm gonna be, the nature of full disclosure, but, to put aside all my nonsense, I still don't think that the Vikings are gonna do anything this year in terms of going. Even if they make it to the playoffs, they're not going deep, they're not making it to the NFC championship and they're certainly not going to the Super Bowl. Any of those things would be so wildly out of the realm of what should be possible that I can't even consider it. That being said, a little bit of magic in the way that Josh Dobbs was able to come in and do what he did not huge stats, but there when we needed it I would also like to say is a precursor.
Speaker 6:I thought that Jiren Hall looked good before he got injured, that there's something there, but our thoughts around Josh Dobbs- well, I think, jameson, I'm not, I don't want to speak for you, but you did last week, and I did as well, saying you guys got some game. David got to take it easy yeah, they touched downs well, yeah, two more now.
Speaker 4:So when I was got 10, well, plus one more, russians are three actually. I mean, is Mike White have?
Speaker 3:about the same less so let's take it easy with the superlatives. Let's, let's, let's, let's limit the hyperbole. Who do we play this week, scott?
Speaker 6:New Orleans well.
Speaker 3:It's an opportunity for him to get some more confidence and play well to that end.
Speaker 6:They're five and four. You want to go through the remaining schedule for the bikes and see if they can win with this current squad, sure?
Speaker 3:let's do it so New Orleans?
Speaker 6:I'm counting that a win.
Speaker 3:Really don't are we at home or we're?
Speaker 6:at home and Kamara is going to chew us up.
Speaker 3:I don't trust car I don't know. This defense is looking better every week. I would take the Vikings against the Saints this weekend as a toss up okay so that's six and four go ahead. Denver next week and that's a Sunday night, and is that at Denver? Yeah.
Speaker 3:Denver's in weird one. If you're not used to playing there, the, the, the altitude really will fuck with you. It tires out the big guys. If you're not used to it and if you're not used to playing at that elevation, you do. You do get gassed. Denver is not a good football team, but I don't know if that's a gimme no.
Speaker 6:I think that could go either way through, but with the hell height elevation to let's, let's you know it's just say for shits and giggles.
Speaker 3:They take that. So that puts a mat seven and four. Who's next?
Speaker 6:In monday night uh chicago, uh in the in the us bank chicago is not playing well, but we never play well against chicago.
Speaker 3:They always play as hard division team yeah so we're gonna have to lose one of these, so I'm gonna take that as a loss. I don't think we ripped three in a row.
Speaker 6:We did beat them earlier this season, and that was with fields.
Speaker 3:I get that, but I think we're gonna listen. I think there's a chance we lose the denver game. So I have. What I'm saying is I'm taking an l, I'm just gonna chalk it up to the bears. A variable could be denver. That puts us at eight and five.
Speaker 6:All right, I transpose those two. After that, you got vegas.
Speaker 3:Okay, that's another either way, kind of in the most interesting thing, why does my computer keep wanting to restart? This is not the time for this. Um, the most interesting thing about the vikings right now is that, as curt cousins went down, a lot of the teams that should have been better than they are seem to not be doing very well. I think denver, I think las vegas, who's in a free fall right now, so that's in las vegas yep.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, I guess that you could again. I think that's a 50 50. They could win this one.
Speaker 4:All these games have been 50, 50, so call that nine, nine and five.
Speaker 3:Who's next, gatti? Then? They lose at since and adi probably yes, correct, so now they're nine and six. Then detroit comes here, and I don't know if we probably nine and seven.
Speaker 6:Then we go to green bay sunday night to beat them there because they toss up you can't you don't know that, I don't know We'll call it. We'll call it. We'll call it ten and seven.
Speaker 3:So you win ten and seven. Is that enough to get you in the wild card?
Speaker 6:Well at detroit to close the season out. So depending on if they have their starters going, you know, Am.
Speaker 3:I off is my math not adding up?
Speaker 4:there should only be 17.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Maybe I may have just added wrong. Scott, I don't think that's your fault, oh no, there's a bi week in there for them too.
Speaker 6:They got week 13. So I don't know if you miss.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, um okay. Well, listen, maybe they make the wild card, I don't know. I think that a lot of things have to go our way and I need. I think that a lot of teams have to not play well. Um, the stars have to come into the proper alignment. The problem is that's the same thing that had to happen last year for us to win, and it didn't mean much when we got to the dance. So I, I don't this was I don't want I keep having to come back to this and it, and it drives me nuts because I I get that with the when you're in minnesota, van, it's, uh, it's all about finding the needles in the haystack. It's about, you know, finding the silver linings.
Speaker 3:Um, josh dobs is a Good-ish quarterback. I would have much preferred to see what jaren hall had, because I don't think that josh dobs is a long-term answer For us. It would have been real, fucking nice. And this is again. I think we're whatever faustian deal kurt cousins made with the devil to keep his career going the one guy that could have replaced them, who they drafted to be that the replacement for kurt cousins gets his bell rung In the first five fucking minutes and now he's out and dobs plays. Just well enough, I would assume. If he keeps playing, you know that two, two, twenty five a game, couple of touchdowns, they're gonna keep him rolling as long as they're winning, right, why risk it? Of uh, joe web.
Speaker 3:So in essence, kerr, cousins job is very safe. Would you say about joe web?
Speaker 6:Yeah what I said, that he's kind of reminiscent of joe web playing certain games for the vikes. Just good enough to take him to it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, tell you, I was never ridden if I'm dobs, I'm take, that's just.
Speaker 6:No, no, but it's just like I'm putting that.
Speaker 3:Considerable IQ to work finding where scott is at any given time winning more games.
Speaker 6:Meaning means you know.
Speaker 3:You know, convert your hat, convert your face. Anything about that tying it back to your new career.
Speaker 6:Sounds great. Yeah, you have said on numerous occasions you would take just about anybody over kurt cousins which?
Speaker 3:no, that's how I said. We didn't exercise once. I said half the, but you have still said what I just said.
Speaker 6:That doesn't mean you haven't, you literally have said no, I wouldn't take him obviously over kurt.
Speaker 3:But you should see the uh, the uh, the chinese and russian and uh propaganda machines. The ai bots are and just, they're just targeting me. Now I'm getting just hammered on x and facebook with like, like, black and white photos of kurt cousins. Like with his fist up on the gurney Quote, the toughest man in football. I gotta be honest with you at this point I I just have to laugh.
Speaker 6:Are you ever said? You never said yay or nay on Dobs because we got talked about kyle marie at the time. It's fine, it doesn't matter. I know that you're probably more than a medium Medium on this.
Speaker 3:On a personal level, dobs seems like a heck of a dude. Well accomplished Career after football, all lined up smart guy. So I mean I like quality people on this team. I would just like to win a super bowl. It has. It has to be more About just the likeability of someone on this team. At some point minnesota Is I think. I honestly believe and this isn't just bullshit, and again, god knows, I shoot, I shoot from the hip a lot but I really do believe that minnesota fans are so conditioned to not win that they will just defend the good guys on the team because it's all they fucking have it's all the guy Right, right, that's the one thing we got go ahead.
Speaker 6:Yeah, did you guys watch money? Money in football.
Speaker 3:I did not. Who played?
Speaker 6:And it was the jets and the chargers. I was just because they had. They had a number of netflix commercials showing or highlighting the quarterback special show that we've talked about this.
Speaker 3:Dobs already been selected for next season.
Speaker 6:No, but james, and have you seen this?
Speaker 6:It's a room full of packer fans, and no tell me more guy comes, guy comes in with his packer jersey, but everyone in the room, the, his family and friends, are all dressed in vikings gear, kerr cousins in particular, and they're like guys, what, what the heck you know? Like, have you seen kerr cousins? He's just the nicest guy, you know, but he's a viking. And he goes, yeah, but he's a nice viking. And then, aha, netflix check out quarterbacks. You know that's the, that's the gag, but I I would hope you'd seen it, david, because that commercial just funny.
Speaker 3:I have not seen it, and yet everything I just said they literally tapped into for a yeah. Wow, I mean I yeah. Well, you know, I'm sure he'll cry himself to leave sleep on his is is pillow stuffed with cash.
Speaker 6:Lots of cash.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's paying someone to do a snow plow his neighbor's driveway this year.
Speaker 6:Well, he doesn't want to end up like jeremy renner. He's already heard.
Speaker 3:Poor thing at jeremy renner guys trying to save his nephew's life for kray sig. All right, let's talk about let's get through this segment here cj stroud Uh, 470 passing yards, five touchdowns, 14 touchdowns, one interception on the year. Literally did a third of his work in a single game. These are aberration games. Everyone gets really excited about a five touchdown performance, but the only guy, maybe the two guys that I think could do that on any given sunday, or Are my homes and probably tug-a-tugly To uh, I can't say his last name.
Speaker 5:It's not a little too man. Tug of iola, tug of iola.
Speaker 3:Tug of iola, but those are probably the two guys and and maybe what's his face Josh allen and buffalow. They have the capability to do it, so I get that people are excited. I think that's easy, stroud. If I'm houston, I'm excited. I'm not dumping on. I think you got a good quarterback there for the future. Now Congratulations, get some receiving talent around and have a good time. Um, it's kind of a, but this is like.
Speaker 6:Pat Mahomes, though. He had games like this early in his career too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but he still has them.
Speaker 6:Mahomes still does.
Speaker 3:No, no, no no.
Speaker 6:This is what Houston's excited about, and as a football fan in general. You'd love seeing this because you see the progression, how some guys just like Daniel Jones who, by the way, is out for the season with the as Achilles or no ACL was it Well, and as a Vikings fan, always a bridesmaid, never a bride.
Speaker 3:Where's my CJ Stroud? Where's my levis?
Speaker 6:He got, he got his bell rung. Yeah, I got my guy.
Speaker 3:He looked good, sounds good and I'm all excited. I give him the Tom Brady blessing and then he's gone immediately. He predicted heavy, I did so. Congratulations CJ Stroud. Do we think abarition? We think this guy's got it.
Speaker 4:I think he's got it Looks good, right, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:Um, carson we've made a joke about this earlier. Carson Wentz Again, uh, if you're calling Kaepernick, you just have to be shaking your head. Carson Wentz has gotten a another starting quarterback position, quarterback position this time with the LA Rams. Um, really, kind of taking what was left, I think that Wentz probably could be gotten cheap, uh, and you could get a real easy contract done enough Someone that's proficient enough to call the plays, get a first down, a touchdown every now and then get you through the this season so you can pick a couple of dudes in, uh, in next year's draft. I, I don't. This was not a move to to try to get to a championship. This is a move to service this team for the rest of the year.
Speaker 4:Well, you couldn't get worse than ripen, because he looked really bad last week, so well they released him too, I think.
Speaker 6:Oh, did they. Yeah, I, I think they picked up Wentz and wait, so you think the LA Rams uh. Mcveigh will quit. Here's your, here's your wild prediction McVeigh quits, the higher Josh McDaniels they get in Jimmy Garoppolo, it happens all over. Who would ever want Josh McDaniels?
Speaker 4:New England. Oh my goodness, he'll work somewhere.
Speaker 6:He just won't be in charge. He'll be back in New England.
Speaker 3:Great offensive coordinator.
Speaker 4:I'll give him that. He'll be back in New England in a week.
Speaker 3:He'll be back in New England in a week.
Speaker 6:The what's the what's the check with, whatever he ends up next season.
Speaker 3:Well, the reason that McDaniels does so well in New England is cause Bill takes care of everything else and he's a more rotten person. So I think, in by by compare. What I mean is you know how, like if you had like your two parents, the dads just always like you're fuck, no, no. Do you ever go to him to ask? Of course you don't. You get all your love and security, and that's from mob, that's. I mean. That's what McDaniels gets to be. He doesn't need to make decisions. It's not at stake for him. He's a perfect number two man. He should just do this for the rest of his career, cause every time he steps out of that and tries to become a head coach someplace, the one place that it might work might be New England, but I doubt it. He just doesn't have that.
Speaker 6:No, he's not good enough? No, he tried to make a second. I don't know if it's not good enough.
Speaker 3:I don't think that he can. I think if he he needs to focus on the thing in this case it's the offense when he's taken on the GM roles and he's managing all the other staff and personnel and what's happening in the practices. I just don't. I think that it's too much. He's not able to spin those plates. So he needs to stay focused and it's not a knock. You got to do what you're good at and realize what you're good at and realize your limitations, and this is what his third head coaching opportunity.
Speaker 4:I think so.
Speaker 3:And it's and we got to call it at this point it's a known quantity.
Speaker 6:Least a second.
Speaker 3:This is, by the way, where I start to look at the Rooney rule and if I'm a black head coach going, if that motherfucker gets another head start, come on.
Speaker 6:I'll buy all the fucking let's go.
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely, you start to have a case as far as I'm concerned. So sorry, brett, right, but you can tell your kids one day that you played in an NFL game and that you were so bad that you were cut and never picked up again.
Speaker 4:I played at Lambos, a good place to play right, I only mentioned McDaniels because of when speaking.
Speaker 6:the same guy who goes and fails and keeps getting shots, right.
Speaker 3:And a move that surprises no one, by the way, considering where they took Levis and they're going to shop Tannehill and get rid of them after the season. Anyway. Ryan Tannehill will not be back up for the rest of season as Titans coach. Mike Ravel has announced that levels will be the starting quarterback, for this Does not surprise me. It's the absolute right thing to do. Levis has a ton of potential and I and I really again I think of that girlfriend who left him for so-called greener pastors.
Speaker 3:This is the ultimate revenge. Let that you remember that I don't know if you ever saw Rocky, for now, oh God, we have so many movies with James and that we have no easy way out.
Speaker 3:But that scene where Stallone hangs the picture of Drago and his mirror in Russia, and just that hatred. It just fuels him to get better, more jacked. You know, run through the snow, chop wood, just get big and heavy and ready to do battle with Drago. If I'm Levis, I take a picture of my ex-girlfriend and just stick it right in the mirror, even if it makes this new girlfriend uncomfortable. Don't question me.
Speaker 6:Either way should be uncomfortable, regardless of the need.
Speaker 3:This is how I motivate myself.
Speaker 6:Don't worry about it, let me have my time.
Speaker 3:He's always playing like fucking foreigner Every time he gets up. I'm trying to sleep. So yeah, you wrote to. Scotty Hopkins is likely thrilled. I would probably tend to agree. Levis has a better arms. Got a rocket for an arm. You get that ball down there. He's not afraid right now to take throws and, you know, take some chances, push the envelope a little bit and see, you know where you end up. But again, another team that's found, probably the quarterback of the next 15 years, right. So it's kind of fun to see. It's very few of those old guard quarterbacks left. You've got like Russell Wilson, you've got Aaron Rodgers, kirk cousins I guess at this point could be, you know, considered one of the old guard, but they are a fuck up disappearing fast and furious.
Speaker 3:Yeah, young generation coming in. By the way, I heard that on that McAfee that Rogers says he'll be back on the field in the next two to three weeks.
Speaker 4:Get the fuck crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and the jets and the jets of, he comes back and plays. Well, the jets have a chance to go, oh absolutely so it's nuts.
Speaker 3:It's nuts. I could care less. We got a little bit about Keenan Allen here. He's got 10th. Oh, sorry, not that the one after that about Kyler Murray. I'm going to give Keenan Allen his respect because this is a dude. This has been consistent his whole career and looked. Unless you're a football guy, you look over Keenan Allen. It's probably where he plays. It's just you never think about he gets no love there. He gets no love there and yet he stays cause they obviously value him a great deal.
Speaker 3:He'll probably retire there, but 10,000 receiving yards. That's now sixth amongst active players. Only Julio Jones, Jandry Hopkins, mike Evans, travis Kelsey and Devonte Adams have more, and I would argue that all of the I didn't realize Mike Evans was that high. Yeah, that's a lot I mean since 11 scenes and he had Brady thrown it to him for a couple of seasons, which never hurts. So congratulations to a guy that I believe he's had no significant injuries.
Speaker 4:He's remained healthy One year. He hurt, yeah, okay.
Speaker 6:Nothing as bad as Echler or McCaffrey or anything like that.
Speaker 3:But congratulations to Keenan Allen. A good dude doing good stuff. Now you have a long and healthy career and may you get out before those injuries could potentially become longterm debilitating. I've seen him speak quite a bit on podcasts and ESPN a lot of probably a big future in broadcasting. At some point he's got some. He's got a good personality to him. For what that's worth, kyler Murray could care less about. Arizona is going to start again. I they're. They're a team that's going nowhere. Yeah, scott wrote. They're still shitty. Yeah, they're going to be shitted into this year.
Speaker 6:They're going to be shitted at the end of next year and I put that on Scott.
Speaker 3:we talked to one point. Do we remember what Kyler Murray's guaranteed money was? Was it like 91 million or was it more?
Speaker 4:than that Was it.
Speaker 6:It was obscene yeah.
Speaker 3:Remember when they were trying not to do it, Cause even Arizona was like what are we doing? I don't know how that happens Like I want to be a fly on the wall in those offices where there's clearly people who are like, don't do this, and then they still do it 160 right.
Speaker 6:Five years two 30 guaranteed, 160 guaranteed. That's ridiculous, kyler.
Speaker 3:Murray, who thinks the playbook is in Madden football, got 160 million guaranteed.
Speaker 4:I play mediocre for a couple of years.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 6:And he's tiny. It feels like it's autistic and he can only read the place.
Speaker 3:You should give an autistic person 160 million dollars. What would they? Know to do with it Good point.
Speaker 3:You're getting fleeced and less. What are you doing? Giving that out? It's like a rain man autism, and they know exactly how much is in their bank account at any given time. I could go lots of different ways, so congratulations to Kyler Murray. So if he, all he has to do is basically wait to get fired, like if he quits, I'm sure there's some sort of claws in there that they can claw back some of that money. I'm sure, as long as he shows up and flanks the ball and plays some Madden and you know is on time, he's basically collected 160 million bucks. Even if they let him go.
Speaker 3:Unbelievable. Can you imagine in your line of work you know you've got like a, like a, a bagger, or someone like a stock, a night stalker who does a decently good job. In the only way for you to keep that person is to sign them to like a $200,000 guaranteed contract for the next three years, and they can then just come in and like fucking piss in the middle of the floor and show up late to shifts and all you can do is continue to pay up. Can you have any other arrangement in the world where that that goes over?
Speaker 4:well, just goes to show there shouldn't be guaranteed contracts. Can you imagine?
Speaker 6:I would just guaranteed contract.
Speaker 3:It's not realistic, though. Scott just wants a contract.
Speaker 6:I'll take a grant contract stipend, whatever you got.
Speaker 3:Just don't fire me. Promise me for five years. You won't do it. I'll promise to give you at least 72% power rankings. Let's get into the power rankings. I mean, you know the number one team. Let's see if we agree. Philadelphia Eagles I guess we good with that.
Speaker 6:We got the least win, or least losses, right.
Speaker 3:So yeah, I'm telling you it's the least compelling season of NFL football in a long time.
Speaker 6:There's nothing to care about this. Last week was down big.
Speaker 3:Baltimore too. That stuns me, I got to be honest with you. I was down on the March, the mobile quarterbacks. Not that I didn't think he had talent, but the mobile quarterbacks always scare me because half a second later his legs explodes and he's done forever.
Speaker 4:That's the part that's good. All right, you three are right there.
Speaker 3:Yep. Unlike Kyler Murray, lamar Jackson ended up being worth the money. Probably good that he held up for sure. Kansas City number three fucking Jacksonville. Jaguars number four that has to be the first time they've been in the top five ever. It has to be. Yeah, I don't disagree with that. Detroit at number five long time since they've been there. San Francisco seven. Cincinnati nine Look at two teams in Ohio nine and 10, the Cincinnati Bengals and the Cleveland Browns. Can we just make an observation? I have a question about the Cleveland Browns. How much is Deshaun Watson responsible for this team? By the way, I would also just make a note that the nine and 10 teams are both five and three. So that goes to tell you this is just a weird season of football, deshaun Watson level of responsibility one being hardly there, 10 being all me. How?
Speaker 4:much is Deshaun Watson four or so. Give him a three or four.
Speaker 6:Not barely, not even that is better there's further defense.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's all they care about Minnesota Vikings at 17. It's just always in the middle of the pack, this team always in the middle of the pack, with the chargers above them, who just lost bad Houston. Texas one big sorry, one big in the Pittsburgh Steelers and the New Orleans Saints who we play this weekend. So, hey, congratulations to the Minnesota Vikings. You're doing great. Scott, you want to deliver on the legal updates. What do you got? Well, we're not going to the Resort Prison, no, no, no, we're going to federal.
Speaker 1:Palmy in the ass prison.
Speaker 3:Well, certain uh we got five to 10.
Speaker 6:Certain wide receiver star Martavis Bryant, you might remember from a few years back, drafted by the Steelers Quite the deep threat, could not keep his substance abuse in line during season. So he kept getting yeah, well, you know it's just smoking weed and as you consider the climate of most of the country, he's in trouble for Gief. This was back when right substance abuse. Nfl still doesn't allow it, you know right, they really should, yep.
Speaker 6:Yeah, they have all fucking people. These guys are sitting around with Aiken Joe and some shit. Let them get high. Relax, it's better than all this shit that Pfizer is pumping into them.
Speaker 3:Roger Goodell would be probably a far more entertaining commissioner If he came on at stage of the draft just clearly high out of his mind, his eyes red in the seventh round.
Speaker 6:Fuck it Eyes are blazing red, just like his cheeks.
Speaker 3:In the seventh round, the Minnesota Vikings select.
Speaker 6:You gotta be fucking kidding me. They select no can't.
Speaker 3:Who's that guy that everybody wants the quarterback that just cried, cried for 20 minutes on the sideline and then got his defensive coordinator fired.
Speaker 4:Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3:Yeah, by the way, I read an article. I think grown men crying at football should only be reserved for when you win or you're or you're playing a game right after one of your parents died, right. Yeah, then you're allowed to cry and even far like shed one tear and then instantly sucked it right back in the man.
Speaker 6:Teardog day he went out and threw four touchdowns in it. Day after that they're in a 49 spot.
Speaker 3:Caleb lost and then cried because of that they had to fire the defensive coordinator but isn't that just a perfect little example of the way the country is?
Speaker 6:Well, I think it just goes to show you why don't cry.
Speaker 3:One man cries, another man gets fired. We do not like outward expression of the domino effect.
Speaker 6:So I thought it was funny because the Cowboys they signed Martavis Bryant. He's on the practice squad for now, but he was suspended since 2018. He's 31 years old and he's played the past summer for the Vegas Vipers of the XFL who actually distribute marijuana to their players.
Speaker 3:That's part of your compensation.
Speaker 6:They sat around and watched the big sphere.
Speaker 3:Everybody took up before you play. We can't afford that fucking tour at all.
Speaker 6:All I could think of is that Jerry Jones plays fantasy football and he's just looking for an edge. Yeah, trust me, he's not going to win with that one.
Speaker 3:Jerry Jones is playing a whole different type of fantasy.
Speaker 6:I know Dave will hate it and he knows it, because the bottom will drop out. But Dak Prescott has been playing pretty fucking good.
Speaker 3:Absolutely. I mean I think they should win the Super Bowl this year. He's playing so well. Who cares, Gives a shit. Kirk Cousins going to have 55 touchdowns this year If we get smoked out the first round of the playoffs. Who gives two rats fucking dicks? You're right.
Speaker 4:Thank you, got to win one of the counts I got, I got.
Speaker 3:I got people on fucking Facebook paying money or going on AI image generators and be like, make me heroic image of Kirk Cousins and then just blowing it out on social media. I can't do it as press Kirk.
Speaker 6:That's the combination.
Speaker 3:Dak press conference Cause press conference Dak press conference. I'm here to talk about how good I am.
Speaker 6:Here's my stats. I've brought my own board. Thank you, if you please pay attention.
Speaker 3:Dak charcuterie.
Speaker 6:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Did camp buy them? His wife get over here. Yet I haven't heard any movement. I mean the Philippines are an ally. This shouldn't be that difficult. He pays his taxes. What's?
Speaker 6:the news.
Speaker 3:Maybe we should just have her fly to Mexico and just walk across the border. Anyone can come in from.
Speaker 4:There.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Just claim asylum. There's a pathway to citizenship. I'm sure they can afford the ticket Now everything.
Speaker 6:I can see is that he's still asking for help. I haven't seen any news here about him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, enable, I mean seriously if they don't have the money? Seriously, if anyone could afford to pay a coyote, I mean he, she could be in the country in the next four days. Anybody know a guy?
Speaker 6:Yeah, they're able to traffic humans. I understand. I don't, I don't.
Speaker 3:As you understand it Problem is yeah, Tell me about the geopolitical issues. Got it?
Speaker 6:That shit you said to me today was so awful. I was like whoa, what happened, david? That text.
Speaker 3:Lot of hot takes by the tick tock generation. On the old is Israel Palestine conflict. I read this stuff on Facebook and I'm like God damn. God damn be quiet.
Speaker 6:Because you opened with that shot to me this morning. I was like what is that, scott? I was insulting him.
Speaker 3:Scott thought that I was calling him a tick tock. Generation geopolitical expert.
Speaker 6:And then I thought, yeah, I read it first I responded with a question mark.
Speaker 3:He's like what is? That the fuck you're talking about. It's got a. All right, shall we get to the picks?
Speaker 6:Sure, sounds great, all right, and the first shitter of the week. We have Carolina visiting Chicago Bears.
Speaker 4:Yeah, this is a bad one. Yeah, why is this? The prime time game.
Speaker 3:Because, I think, they actually obligated to have one probably.
Speaker 6:Well, you had fields, assuming they get the start of the season and the young price, yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 4:Everybody knew before the season started these two teams would suck. Let's be honest.
Speaker 6:And that's why I got there. I think there's been a couple of better games. I think this season Right. The Pittsburgh game last week was this is the Thursday game.
Speaker 3:Yep, yep. Interestingly enough, though, will be a full power for AWS's new intelligent metrics and AI and my analyzation and what so they do. It's the stats, but they're doing in real time monitoring and then using what AI To like overlay stats and interesting information on the screen. How?
Speaker 6:far does that go? And expectations? Yeah, they were talking about it last week a little bit.
Speaker 3:So you could just figure out probability of a sub 10 point game. Right, where do where do these teams rank historically in the pantheon of all time Worst teams? You could overlay things like the 85 bears, like their average drive distance touchdowns, like where they would have been performing anything that all that stuff, yeah so you could.
Speaker 3:What I'm saying is that I don't know if there will be bad NFL games in the future. I think it's just an opportunity to entertain you in different ways. You know what I mean. It's like sex it's not all great, but it's never bad. Yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 6:Scott.
Speaker 3:Scott fun, so I feel like as men.
Speaker 6:that's our probable take on that Right. Women might have a different take on sex could be bad.
Speaker 3:Let's not speak for them. We're not here to. We're not here to support just theorizing. I have no, not what I say.
Speaker 6:I've gone with Chicago because they're the home team. That's about as deep as I'm getting there. Were they playing in Carolina who's got a little bitty something, but not not.
Speaker 3:Jamison's looking at some sort of app over there.
Speaker 4:No, I'm just looking at the schedule. What?
Speaker 3:do you think?
Speaker 4:Check, I'm going with the Bears. Then lost by seven to the Saints last week. They actually looked decent like the agent man, they can make it happen.
Speaker 6:Interesting Carolina Gramps. Carolina Gramps is not happy with you and I'm going to put Adam Thielen out there.
Speaker 3:I don't feel it, whatever.
Speaker 1:James, you can change your mind. So Carolina the other way.
Speaker 3:Locking in. Oh, that's the wrong one. That's the wrong one.
Speaker 6:Bing, bing, bing. All right, Closing out the international games and unfortunately in Frankfurt this will be the last game they see for the NFL. Indianapolis has the line one and a half to New England attending to be the home team. I've gone with Indianapolis. I know it's a crap line and New England's terrible, and Carden Minchoo just isn't being that light up mustache guy that he used to be Indy, I guess.
Speaker 3:Light up mustache guy. I'm going to go with Indy as well. This is a horrible game, colts.
Speaker 4:Another shitter of the week. Yeah, you can't trust the Patriots, so we're all going to go with the Colts on this one.
Speaker 6:International shitter oh and their best receiver, one down to before we get to that game buys this week Casey, the Rams, Miami and Philadelphia. So everybody that plays fantasy is pretty pissed off.
Speaker 4:That's a tough week Wow.
Speaker 6:Yeah, mine was last week. I built my back soft. Houston is visiting Cincinnati and I, in my opinion, this is one of our games of the week, because Houston has a lot to bring to the table and Cincinnati is fine in their way. I think we should see it.
Speaker 3:Cincinnati has a line. I guarantee everyone's taking Cincinnati in this game.
Speaker 6:I'm taking Cincinnati 100 percent. I know it wouldn't be foolish Just saying.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this is why you don't get excited about five touchdown performances, because eventually they go play the Cincinnati Bengals. So Cincinnati.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they'll come back to earth. You're right, we're not polishing this turd.
Speaker 3:Right, it is what it? Is so be it.
Speaker 6:Well, in another game of the week, minnesota is hosting New Orleans. New Orleans still has a line two and a half. I have gone with Minnesota against the spread, just going to ride the wave until it stops. What do you think?
Speaker 3:I'm going to take the Saints.
Speaker 4:All right, it's a 50 50 game. Like I said that earlier when we were picking yeah, tough one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, taysom Hill might go off of 404 touchdowns.
Speaker 4:Tayson Hill yeah.
Speaker 3:Is he still there? Yeah, so good.
Speaker 6:Isn't car, so their quarterback who, of course, of course, but Taysom is more fantasy relevant than their car.
Speaker 4:Correct. Yeah, I like Hill. Um, that's tough one. I want to go to the Vikings.
Speaker 3:Good God, I can't wait to fucking be in the dog position at the end of this week Games like that.
Speaker 6:David, I like I'm fine with him picking and you going that. I like that. Thank you. Green Bay Packers shall visit the Pittsburgh Steelers. Steelers fresh off a buy, have the line of three at home. I've gone with the Steelers too much for the Packers. They ain't, they ain't shit.
Speaker 3:Can't argue with it. I'll take the Steelers as well.
Speaker 4:Packers gave you a glimmer of hope last week. They did?
Speaker 3:They played a shit team which is understandable. Yeah, pickett's not a bad QB though.
Speaker 4:But here in Jones was back and he finally played good.
Speaker 3:Hey listen, I think this might be the time that you can finally back your fucking team.
Speaker 4:I'm wondering what's Pittsburgh's a good team, yeah.
Speaker 3:Take it, take, take the Packers, go for it.
Speaker 6:Yeah yeah, Pickett. Pickett hasn't even had a multiple touchdown game.
Speaker 3:It sucks, pickett, stinks. This might be the game you stick green Bay.
Speaker 4:I'm gonna get with Pickett.
Speaker 3:You see, you see, you got picked the picket. I'm picking picket. We're going to try Steeler.
Speaker 6:No steel, All right. Tennessee Titans are visiting. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have the line at home by one. I'm going with Will Leviss and a lot of hope. What do you think, David?
Speaker 3:I will take the Titans as well. You love them.
Speaker 4:I do. I'm just going to go with the Buccaneers, just because you guys went with the Titans. So to hell with us.
Speaker 3:Well, the thing is, jameson has such a sizable lead, he's just taken out for a test drive.
Speaker 6:He's just taken out just playing with it, taking it for a run Totally fair.
Speaker 3:Don't you toy with me.
Speaker 6:One of our other games of the week. San Francisco at Jacksonville, both off of buys fresh and hot. Three is the line to Jack. Excuse me, San Francisco has the line by three and I'm still going to go with the Jaguars. I want to see what San Francisco can do again. They've had a real bad month. Conversely, Jacksonville's had a pretty decent month. So what do you think?
Speaker 3:I completely agree with everything you just said. I also will be taking the Jacksonville Jaguars. I think this can go either way, but I believe that they're the better team right now. Something's going on with Purdy and the and the playing calling has been odd. Jacksonville's got a decent defense. I think that they're dedicated, they're driven. I think that they're going to win. There's something about them, I don't know, just a certain Genesis Again. The San Francisco 49ers is a very good football team, but they don't. They look off Scotty not not quite playing up to the 49er level.
Speaker 6:So they were mostly on the rails for the first month and they were kind of skidding off in the last month and we'll see what they got after. Buy yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, everything you guys said was very true, but I'm going to ride McCaffrey on this one and I'm going to go with the 49ers and their defense is going to do enough, so can't fault it at all.
Speaker 3:Ride McCaffrey.
Speaker 4:He would if he could.
Speaker 6:Ooh white, white, I ain't giving up this.
Speaker 3:I ain't giving up this booty hole for free.
Speaker 6:He's got a lot of money. Don't we got. We got a divisional matchup. Baltimore at home six is the line They'll be defeating, I think, Cleveland. What do you guys think?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think that Cleveland is good against marginal teams. This is going to be a real test for them. These guys are elite. In Baltimore I'm going to take the Ravens. I don't. I don't even think this is going to be all that close. To be honest with you.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the Browns offense isn't going to do enough against their defense. I don't think so. Baltimore will run away with this one a little bit.
Speaker 6:I feel like I would have gone contrary on this one if we hadn't done so far already. Be a good long shot. Oh, this one, atlanta one visiting Arizona might have Kyler Murray. Don't give a shit, atlanta will be starting Taylor Heineke at quarterback. I've gone with Atlanta. It's, yeah, anybody's game, I think.
Speaker 3:I think if I'm the network I'm like is there, can I contractually get out of this and show anything else? Is there a dog show?
Speaker 6:Murder. She wrote.
Speaker 3:Yeah, is there a law and order marathon I could put on?
Speaker 6:Seinfeld.
Speaker 4:Gilmore girls. Even I lost the.
Speaker 3:Gilmore girls over there. Great, the great English baking show.
Speaker 6:Yeah. The property brothers.
Speaker 3:Ramsey yell at people for hours that on, so I think we're all in agreement.
Speaker 6:Atlanta.
Speaker 3:Atlanta. I am taking Atlanta.
Speaker 4:I know yeah.
Speaker 3:I do like that guy. Is he still in the skull cap or has he moved on from that?
Speaker 4:I don't know it looks silly.
Speaker 3:I like it.
Speaker 6:They should be a fairly fun game to watch. This week, detroit off by two and a half, has the line visiting the LH archers. I've gone with the lions. They've shown me nothing to think that they can't beat LA In LA.
Speaker 3:Yeah, david, something to let you go. I'm going to exercise a little executive privilege.
Speaker 4:That's unfortunate. I was waiting for you to answer, I know.
Speaker 3:I think you and I are. I could tell your body language shifts when you're in that I don't know phase and you kind of push you over, do you have? It yeah.
Speaker 6:Because LA just beat the shit out of a real good defense.
Speaker 4:That's just it. I mean, they're riding high right now and the lines coming off a bio will be not as professional I think. So I'm going to go with the chargers.
Speaker 3:I am also going to go with the charges. That was going to be the team I took. Anyway, it did not. Your answer did not influence me, but I am going to take the chargers as well.
Speaker 6:I must not have. Maybe it did, I don't know. Can we trust that? David, you've been all about the lions most of pretty much all year.
Speaker 3:Remember last week when I said I got to stop picking with my heart and pick with my head.
Speaker 6:I just remember that I need to start doing that, just yeah, but the jets don't have a quarterback, so we'll see oh biggest line of the week coming up Dallas hosting their division rival without their star quarterback, Daniel Jones. Star quarterback 16 to the Dallas Cowboys. I've gone with the stars. Nothing, nothing else to talk about.
Speaker 3:It might be Maybe the last time the words Daniel Jones star quarterback are ever said in the same sentence.
Speaker 6:It was awful, it was a joke anyway.
Speaker 4:Still be the weekends, it's a good road.
Speaker 6:He'll be the fucking. He beat Joe Lewis.
Speaker 3:He beat the Vikings. Yes, yeah. So I think you'd have to be a fool to not take Dallas here. So yes, Dallas.
Speaker 6:I had said what was the one star burst was the punch it in. We were talking about for the tush push for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we had a couple of good ones. You know they called the tush push in Philadelphia. Scott and I were having a couple of names Scott, can you remember some of those for that? We for the Minnesota Vikings. We talked about Valhola.
Speaker 6:Valhola, that was good. That was your push in near the house. I'm just I mean listen connecting the dots.
Speaker 3:Here we're talking about putting hands on butts, yeah.
Speaker 6:The tush, push the, because the brotherly shove is so unique. So I posed to David and said wouldn't it be funny if we come up with it? So I said the Nord Horde for the Vikings. Dave's like Valhola, you know. Yabble good stuff. What do you think Jameson? Good stuff, I like any ideas? What do you?
Speaker 4:think Boy, not the top of my head.
Speaker 3:For the in Cleveland. We call Cleveland steamer because we're putting the hands right in there.
Speaker 6:I suggested the dog pound like as a verb.
Speaker 4:That's also a good one. It is good.
Speaker 3:It is San.
Speaker 1:Francisco.
Speaker 6:With the Cleveland steamer.
Speaker 3:You definitely the Pittsburgh pink guy the.
Speaker 6:Pittsburgh, the stealer. Yeah, what would that one be? The smelting pot.
Speaker 3:That'd be the Pittsburgh pink guy.
Speaker 6:I said that what that Niners would be, eureka gold, they're going gold digging or something like that, new Orleans. I got it, since they're the saints, the confessional Taints, the Taints, yeah, we got that one. Oh, David, you had me laughing my ass off yesterday. I should have wrote them down then. But we had Tampa Bay, the pirate one, but there was the pirate hole, or the booty hole. Everything I had was a hole or something.
Speaker 3:I had a hole in almost 90% of my ideas Makes sense. I'm not a creative person.
Speaker 6:One more, for the Commodore was one that I liked for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Yup the plunder bus Let me go for the for the New York or the New England Patriots packers.
Speaker 3:We just leave it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, just packing that.
Speaker 3:That's it.
Speaker 6:Maybe they just say fudge, pack, fuck it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the bunghole in Cincinnati.
Speaker 6:The banghole, banghole, cool Yummy. There again Hole.
Speaker 3:Always, always a part of the equation. Yeah, you can have a lot of fun with that.
Speaker 6:Um, oh, are you ready for a bad taste one, or should I just skip that one? No, go for it. Okay, the jets could be the twin towers. What? Yeah, cause they crash in for a little bit. Yeah, it's pretty bad. That's dark yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah Well, I warned you, didn't I?
Speaker 6:I didn't know you're going that dark.
Speaker 4:Well, it's Scott it could be really all over the place.
Speaker 6:I'm sorry, I should have told you it could be really all over the place. I'm sorry, I should have prefaced that was horrible, simply horrible. Should we just go on to the next? Thing I was thinking like dirty, not not just mean you know, I wouldn't even preface it with anything if it was just dirty Shit. He doesn't know what to think. He's just like because he's now he's picturing the jet logo flying into two twin linemen. Oh, I didn't need to do that, Sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 6:Washington. Washington shall go to Seattle. Seattle has the line at home. I have gone with the Seahawks. Excuse me, sam Howell is just under fire all the time. He manages a decent fantasy day, you know, but it's just not. That's upright long enough for them to win.
Speaker 3:I'm going with the Seahawks. Would you like to make any references to any terrorist attacks in Seattle?
Speaker 6:I haven't heard about any attacks at the Starbucks headquarters or anything like that.
Speaker 3:I think I'm going to go with the Washington commanders here. I don't have a lot of faith in what Seattle's doing right now.
Speaker 4:I want to do the same, Actually take the commanders, I think I might Yep, I don't trust the Seahawks at all.
Speaker 6:I don't. Either you suppose Vegas is fucking that up, or maybe I don't know. That's a line of six. That's a pretty decent size line for the home team, it is.
Speaker 3:This could be the money game. Look for sizable bets on the commanders shortly before kickoff that's a fine point.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm going to take the commanders.
Speaker 4:I'm changing my answer.
Speaker 3:I won't see you, Okay you do it, I'll stay out on that limb they're at home, so that makes a difference to me, it really doesn't.
Speaker 6:I need to shut up.
Speaker 3:Scotty, the floor is yours.
Speaker 6:I'm just fucking around. I shouldn't speak any more. I'm sorry For Sunday night. For some reason they have New York jets with the line of one and a half at the Las Vegas Raiders. I'm picking the Raiders on that one at home. I think they're still riding high and the jets well. They don't have Aaron Rogers back yet, so they can't really win much often.
Speaker 3:Who are you taking?
Speaker 6:Raiders.
Speaker 4:They scored 30 points. Raiders.
Speaker 3:Are they playing in Vegas?
Speaker 6:Yes, Jets have the line right now as of Tuesday one and a half, but I'm going to take the jets.
Speaker 4:I don't know what to do.
Speaker 3:I know, these are tough games.
Speaker 4:They are, they really are. They're all 50-50 games for me.
Speaker 3:The problem is is that even if you were to, if you're the human computer, if you run all the variables, do the high-level quantitative analysis, you're still going to shrug your shoulders and go. I don't know. So I'm going to go with the jets because I need them. This is where I'm at. This is where I'm at with my heart. I need the jets to be competitive for Aaron Rogers' return.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they're going to do enough just to get them back.
Speaker 3:And solid knows how to slow. I mean, if he needs to, he'll play a drag out, knockout, run a heavy game, control the clock. He doesn't care if he wins fucking seven to three, it really doesn't matter to him whatsoever.
Speaker 4:And they got embarrassed last week, so they're going to be ready to play.
Speaker 3:So I'm going to take the jets, jets, jets jets jets, it is.
Speaker 4:You take the jets too. Yep Nice.
Speaker 6:That's what I'm talking about Locked in, I still would flex it out. I don't want to watch that game too much. Monday night has Denver going to Buffalo? Buffalo has a decent line of seven and a half of a respectful line Because, like we were talking about earlier, denver's got a little action going on here and there. Gruden or not Gruden, excuse me, payton's got a little more up his sleeve, but I still don't think it'll be enough. Buffalo, and I say 51 total.
Speaker 3:Well, that's only going to happen if Buffalo is putting up 48. James, and you're gonna have to pick this one first.
Speaker 4:I'm going with the bills and 56.
Speaker 6:Scott, what'd you have? 51.
Speaker 3:Great, I'm gonna go with the bills. I'm gonna go 40.
Speaker 6:40. Just 40. That sounds fine. Yep, you're good. Either way, I'm in the middle Um one.
Speaker 3:We need to make a rule against this. You have to, you can't do it. It's just so cheap.
Speaker 6:We don't do it. We don't normally do it, it's just I know about it, that's fine. It's like the push push.
Speaker 3:Nobody did that either. Now they're doing it and they're like well, that doesn't seem fair.
Speaker 4:Maybe we all need to write down our number before we do it, so we can't go off each other. Ah.
Speaker 3:To be fair, I'm away right first.
Speaker 6:So you guys have to figure that out.
Speaker 3:What if we all take one?
Speaker 4:I'll take two.
Speaker 1:You have to be realistic Zero.
Speaker 6:It's fine, it's. You know, I kind of sometimes, a lot of times it will get screwed, because I pick a number and then you guys can go over. Yeah, so we're trying to get fair for everyone.
Speaker 4:I honestly think it'll be 51.
Speaker 6:I mean I go by it. They think the money says 47 to 50 for the total.
Speaker 4:How did you come up with 51?
Speaker 6:I just think Buffalo will score a few more points. I think it's going to be a higher scoring game. I think it's going to be something like you know 383.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Could be. Yeah, right, 40, 11 to get us to get a safety 3417 41, 10.
Speaker 3:Yeah, good safety Could happen, I think.
Speaker 4:I think 34 is happening to the Vikings, yeah, well what hasn't horrible bull. Oh.
Speaker 3:Sting Stake in my heart, but they really are a bunch of nice guys, aren't they?
Speaker 6:All the matters. He's a nice Viking.
Speaker 3:I got to tell you when the whole love boat scandal happened on Lake Minnetaka. I'm like fine Good, let this team be dirty, let them be gross and filthy. They sure were that I wanted it. Then we're going to go right back to being nice. Drives me nuts Wearing ties and how do you do? The is quarterback. I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 6:I think players show up looking like a Louis Vuitton and bag these days. I don't like that either.
Speaker 3:It's a little too much. Fans that were in the skinny pants that go just above their ankle. They're like Caprice, are you tough? Is that what I'm saying? Well, look to everyone. Jared Allen would show up in a cowboy hat and a pair of fucking jeans. Man's man, that was a man, a mullet, careless boy Miss that guy.
Speaker 3:Man, he was fun, one of the best signings. I mean, some Vikings ever made one of the best trades ever for this franchise. And then the fact that he got to play with far, but you just had, you know, redneck Nirvana.
Speaker 4:Where do we get him from?
Speaker 3:Kansas City, where he was dominant, and we gave him a lot. I think, it was like a $96 million deal to get him here, which at that time was a lot. He was the highest paid defensive player in the history of football, or in every bit of it, but boy did he make that game fun for us. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Just as Antex after the sack, all that. Oh, I loved it, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:And he was someone that I was actually interested. He's now in what he's trying to become an Olympic curler.
Speaker 4:Really yeah.
Speaker 3:He's almost there. I think you damn near qualified in the last Winter Olympics. He was trying. Yeah, his team up there and they're doing quite well.
Speaker 6:I was just watching a video on how the stones are collected, harvested. There's only like one place in the world that they get the best granite for it. It's really interesting Actually is it? Here, Is it Minnesota? No, no, it's more like in the I think it was like Ireland or somewhere crazy up there Was that where the sport originated.
Speaker 3:I'm not asking to know this, by the way, so I'm not trying to put you on the spot.
Speaker 6:It was an island, it's somewhere. Because it did, they did say, canadians obviously like it, and there was another one too, but the the stone.
Speaker 3:Canadians like taking a stone and sliding it across ice.
Speaker 6:What else is there to do? That's all they got. Yeah, they say. Once it became an Olympic event, they they started to make a whole lot more to save the business.
Speaker 3:What do we think about flag football? I know we talked about it before, but it really seems to be going full tilt, boogie. What is this obsession with flag football? Yeah, my home says he's in. Yeah, is this the ultimate manifestation of we want to watch football, but no one should ever be hurt.
Speaker 6:Yeah, it just feels like I don't know. It feels like zucchini squash or no, no, like a spaghetti squash. Excuse me, you know it's supposed to be like pasta, but it's not.
Speaker 3:So I should. I'm going to ask you a question. I get, I don't get, but I at least understand the pathway to it being an Olympic sport. But there's no way you would ever pay to go see a flag football game.
Speaker 4:I don't think so, right yeah.
Speaker 6:Nope, nope, they do that for free over it, even if they're serving lineup was like D hop Kelsey.
Speaker 3:I mean all the best NFL players.
Speaker 4:Let's say I don't even know. It's basically like a pro bowl game.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't even think I go.
Speaker 4:I wouldn't go. Which people don't watch a pro? So that tells you already.
Speaker 3:It's the skills challenge that people like.
Speaker 6:It was over at the TCO stadium in Egan and it was 10 bucks. I'd be like, eh, fuck it, why not? But that's cause mine. I'm close to it and that's cheap, but I'm not going out of my way.
Speaker 4:People like football for the big hits. Right, yeah, you take out the big hits and it's not going to be as fun.
Speaker 6:Yeah, it's like a vegan substitute, but this is not going to sit well.
Speaker 3:It is, yeah, all the. It's funny All the vegan restaurants in Minneapolis that were trying to be like meat substitute places, like, yeah, they're all gone because people don't want it they want what they want. I get overseas but I've never quite understood the allure of flag football, but it seemed to come on quite quickly I get for kids. It's a great way to develop correct Run routes you don't want them to get these.
Speaker 6:Right. The best thing for youth, we're down Special Olympics.
Speaker 3:Well, yes, but they're, they're para athletes. They need, they need the games. They don't have an option. These are, these are, these are, you know, the Greek gods of men, and they're, they're playing flag football.
Speaker 6:Let me, let me take you on a chain of events. My brain is just how foolish even becoming an Olympic event might be. So the people that loved Quidditch from the Harry Potter series decided to make it an actual league, and then they played Quidditch for years, and then JK Rowling said her right opinion on you know whether men or women, and et cetera, et cetera, and then they dogged the woman, and now the Quidditch league had to become something else because they didn't want to be associated with that. And now I, even after wanting to become an Olympic sport. Does that make any sense? Who gives a shit? Flag football is Quidditch, fuck it. I know, I just said my piece.
Speaker 6:Why you can't stop the words it runs. You gotta keep on going, Da-da-da-da-da-da. Whenever you play. That all I think of is the Simpsons. Homer is sitting outside the Earl Smith concert and I was spinal tapped.
Speaker 5:What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
Speaker 3:Scotty God love you, I love you. Thank you, quidditch.
Speaker 6:It's the same. It's exactly the same as far as importance.
Speaker 3:Is there anything else? I don't know what to do with that. What do we tack on to that? Why did they quit the Quidditch league?
Speaker 6:Because JK Rowling has opinions on trans people. The Quidditch league wanted to be an Olympic event, but they were like Get that son of a bitch off the field right now. He's fired, he's fired.
Speaker 3:In what might be the worst, ending to an episode of the night. Nfl will do better next week. Ever. This is shocker. I'll start. Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1:And the body politic.