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Welcome to the latest episode of the Igniter NFL Pickham Show, where we heat up the debate on the gridiron! Ever wonder how Kirk Cousins stacks up to the Vikings' new quarterbacks, Josh Dobbs and Jaren Hall? We're stirring the pot with fiery discussions on the Vikings' strategy, Aaron Rodgers' woes, and the hot-button NFL trade deadline. This episode serves up a high-stakes pick segment with Jameson and Scott, accompanied by a spicy side dish of Kweifei Adult-Momentum's standout zone defense.
With a hunger for riveting analysis and conversation, we dig into the meat of Patrick Mahomes, AJ Brown, Russell Wilson, and Tua Tagovailoa's careers. We ladle out our thoughts on game-ending penalties, and slice into Tyreek Hill's season performance. We also cook up a special segment on Jaren Hall's journey from his early years to present day, garnishing it with some bold bets on his performance in the upcoming game.
Wrapping up with a hearty serving of upcoming game predictions, we dish out the possibility of Brett Favre's return and the Commanders' chances against New England. We also sprinkle in a fun Halloween recap and a taste of AI-assisted podcast hosting. So pull up a chair, grab your utensils, and dig in to the Igniter NFL Pickham Show - your one-stop shop for all things NFL!
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Before we begin. Everything youre about to read was generated by Artificial Intelligence. We have changed nor added nothing. While it is error laden and non-sensical we believe it is still an upgrade over Scott.
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Welcome to the latest episode of the Igniter NFL Pickham Show, where we heat up the debate on the gridiron! Ever wonder how Kirk Cousins stacks up to the Vikings' new quarterbacks, Josh Dobbs and Jaren Hall? We're stirring the pot with fiery discussions on the Vikings' strategy, Aaron Rodgers' woes, and the hot-button NFL trade deadline. This episode serves up a high-stakes pick segment with Jameson and Scott, accompanied by a spicy side dish of Kweifei Adult-Momentum's standout zone defense.
With a hunger for riveting analysis and conversation, we dig into the meat of Patrick Mahomes, AJ Brown, Russell Wilson, and Tua Tagovailoa's careers. We ladle out our thoughts on game-ending penalties, and slice into Tyreek Hill's season performance. We also cook up a special segment on Jaren Hall's journey from his early years to present day, garnishing it with some bold bets on his performance in the upcoming game.
Wrapping up with a hearty serving of upcoming game predictions, we dish out the possibility of Brett Favre's return and the Commanders' chances against New England. We also sprinkle in a fun Halloween recap and a taste of AI-assisted podcast hosting. So pull up a chair, grab your utensils, and dig in to the Igniter NFL Pickham Show - your one-stop shop for all things NFL!
Ideas, rage, praise, dirt? Send it to igntrnetwork@gmail.com
Live from the igniter bunker deep, deep under cold spring Minnesota. It's the NFL Pickham Show, with your host, the two-time boatman of the year and 2023 cold spring Lions golf scramble champion, dr Alstard, joined in studio by the big-wing Jameson wall oh my god and remotely from their smoke stain shed. Interim producer. Interim producer Scott Nyberg. Nfl analysis and inside information from across the league. Meant to edify and entertain. It's the igniter NFL Pickham show and it starts now. Are you ready for some football?
Speaker 2:we're ready for some football, baby just when all hope was lost in the season on the brink, the Minnesota Vikings went out and pulled one out of the fire by signing Josh Dobbs. Welcome to the igniter NFL Pickham show. This might just be a funeral procession for the Minnesota Vikings, who season is clearly over, though excited about Jaren Hall. We're gonna get into that and so much more. I'm shocker, of course. Your, your hostess with the most is joined in studio by Jameson the big-wing. Scott, remote in his smoke field actually not in a smoke field shed his wife's out of town. So Scott, believe it or not, is responsible for two humans at this point yeah, terrifying hopefully they make it through.
Speaker 3:I never, I never recorded my shed.
Speaker 2:It's always in the basement so you say this is what week nine, week ten yeah, our tenth show this season, but week nine is what we're picking certainly the most momentous news filled, I think, of all the week so far in the NFL since Aaron Rodgers, achilles injury and Rogers apparently some sort of shame, a shaman demon has now passed along that misfortune to Kirk Cousins and I couldn't be happier in addition caliber yeah, well, this into that in the trade line.
Speaker 2:I mean so much to talk about, scott, as we do. We've got a little competition here that Jameson has been running away with like a freight train, a steaming locomotive, the actual pick segment itself. Would love to get just a quick update on that, scott, and we're gonna jump right into the good news. Sounds good brother.
Speaker 3:Well, sorry, jameson, not this week good, what do we got? It is I. I'm sorry, david, it was not me right.
Speaker 2:Moving on to news it's like always.
Speaker 3:I will be happy and say I did gain one point on you. David had nine for the week, 11 for Jameson, 12 for me, 10 for the the spread overall 70 for David, 79 for Jameson, 74 for me, 72 for the spread. So yeah, vikings, fuck up. I think the Green Bay Packers that you picked fuck you as well. Yeah, there was a couple I was like why, david? Why you pick st Louis?
Speaker 2:I think my Achilles my. Achilles heels. I pick with my heart, now with my head. I need to stop doing that, jameson. The very logic base, very pragmatic, like a human computer I am overly emotional, almost like there's an infusion of estrogen and the things that I picked. So I need to slow down this week, scott. I need to engage my brain, remove the emotion and focus strictly on deep thinking, critical thinking what do you think about that?
Speaker 3:it's gonna be. I think that's great. And what a horrible week for you to start doing that, because we have a lot of close lines this week, a lot of difficult games, so I always appreciate you the support you give me when, when I'm down, I actually put on the board David regressing the picks this week.
Speaker 2:Clearly that was my fear, like I just I just knew I was gonna lose this week I'm not doing well. But I would also like to know that I read about the halfway point in every season. The half the wheels have fallen off my train, anyway my wagon. It's not good. So you guys are clearly running away with me and that's fine. I stopped caring about the NFL already. I'm already bored. I'm here for you guys.
Speaker 2:We're talking little football and see if I get Scott all peppered up on a podcast every now and then I at this point, sadism is my only goal. I just want to see him upset. Does that work for you, scott?
Speaker 3:that seems to have done so for 20 plus, all right pretty good.
Speaker 2:Trade deadline was October 31st. We had what will we consider blockbuster trade chase young to the 49ers that was a big one there.
Speaker 3:Yep, yeah, what did you say? They have how many first rounders on that line?
Speaker 2:on their starting defensive line, the first pick I think it's the first pick the second pick, the ninth pick and, like, the 127th pick. So, in essence, the San Francisco 49er are stacked in the front, as they are in most positions. Brock Purdy, speaking of aggression, seems to be struggling the last couple of weeks and I don't know what's going on. Maybe he's moving, finally moved out of that duplex he was sharing with the offensive lineman and he's moving into his own joint. He's just distracted.
Speaker 3:I have no idea, but Purdy has not looked, does not look good, I'll give them the Cleveland one as a pass because they have a stellar defense. So I mean generally as far as quarterback someone out.
Speaker 2:But same defense it keeps to Sean Watson from any available besides therapists within a 20 yard vicinity.
Speaker 3:No, to Sean, put the D line out there in front of the the strip mall he gets out to running there real quick.
Speaker 2:I can 12 dudes jump out of a van, just zone defense them. Nope, not today but I'm itching yeah, it was an interesting one. We I was not nearly as impressed, so we're gonna talk about Viking stuff soon. I would say that Kweifei, adult, adult, what's? This is what's his name's. Got you like to say it crazy? Crazy adult adult momentum.
Speaker 2:Is that it? That's it. Okay, it's correct. I'm gonna give you the chance. Might be. I don't know what he's doing. I honestly, at this point I'm wondering if he's using chat GP tears, some sort of generative AI to help him make decisions, but it's not doing well. It's like at the 3.5 it's two versions behind. It's uninspired. I'm not impressed. No one knew who Josh Dobbs was and the most remarkable thing about him is he has no hair. I looked at his stats. They're not good. We're gonna get into that. But yeah, I think Chase young, it was a. It was a weird, almost uneventful trade deadline. Anything else big happen?
Speaker 5:I think there was one more well, the bear has got Montes sweat, which is not gonna do anything, let's say no one knows why that right but yeah, kind of interesting.
Speaker 2:I mean, the whole season was in the can and they're like we should probably just do something even the Vikings getting Dobbs yawn. Well you have to assume, like you almost wonder if the sports writers in Chicago were just so bored they were threatening to stop writing about this team. They're like, well, what about Montes sweat? We need something, yeah something to write about.
Speaker 2:God damn it should think about that. They're just appeasing the Chicago Tribune. Yeah, chase young to the 49ers. Obviously they're interested in winning. Was there, you know? I was trying to think, was there anything else that happened?
Speaker 5:I know the Packers traded Raul Douglas to the bills nobody knows who that is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but if you're a, Packers fan.
Speaker 5:You do, and he was actually pretty good for him.
Speaker 3:So that helps the bill defense speaking of Packers, david and I were talking about a certain X Packer today, which one?
Speaker 5:Brett Favre yeah, what about?
Speaker 3:yeah well, yeah yeah, go ahead, scotty fill him in, david, and for me, that his defamation lawsuit against Shannon Sharp got thrown out today no yeah, there was a great line.
Speaker 2:I have to read this.
Speaker 3:You're gonna love this because he was talking about what happened, obviously, with his daughter's volleyball in Mississippi State and he took the welfare monies of the poorest, stupidest state in the Union yeah, we all know he did wrong.
Speaker 5:You should be defamed.
Speaker 3:It was embarrassing he should be, and then I can't remember what. Specifically what David David, you have to write. He's looking for it now. It was pretty funny, but I said well anything Shannon Sharp says he could you understand what he said?
Speaker 2:a lot of times it sounds like he's they made a constitutional framework argument that it was basically protected under free speech, but under specifically like hyperbolic expression which. I mean sums up Shannon Sharp in general well, he's with Skip Bayless.
Speaker 3:For how many more he's gone now?
Speaker 2:no, no, I know he's got low weight or low weight. Now fucking stabbed poor skip right in the back. All 93 pounds of him.
Speaker 3:I think he'd like to do it in the front yeah.
Speaker 2:So apparently Brett Favre did not, did not take well with Shannon Sharp's assertion that only a scumbag would take money from the lowest of the low in looting the, the welfare pool, to pay for a volleyball stadium, which I still think. You know, as I said to Scott, is a man, had his wranglers, he had his dog, he had his hunting land. He was revered in that center right political party. I think even people on the left were like, hey, it's bread far managed to get through the dick pic fiasco and the whole Jen Sturges bit. You know whoever. He was sleeping with an unimpressive penis average, but you think bigger became a good fine.
Speaker 3:I wouldn't be like, oh, I won't ever have weathered all of it.
Speaker 2:And what does he do for his final act? His PA's. There is his dance. He steals money. He gets in cahoots with the governor to steal money from people who don't have it, to pay for volleyball stadium for people who are so affluent they have no idea what poor is. That's. That's how he ends it. So at this point I think you're reput you. So he lashed out, followed the Trump playbook. If you say something mean about me, I just sue you and end up losing. Interesting enough, I didn't want to root for either of these people, but I guess Shannon Sharp is in the right legal framework. Thank you, founding fathers, for providing the rights and the constitution for Shannon Sharp to a sale red farm. We should have said something about the size of his cock. I left that part out.
Speaker 3:They wouldn't have got thrown out with that. That would have been the specific definition then. Yeah, it's a huge dig. Probably what he?
Speaker 2:should have said and also, he's a scumbag, you shouldn't have taken him from those people, but I think he's got a huge penis.
Speaker 3:One cancels the other out. Yeah, you'd forgive him.
Speaker 2:Probably. Oh, I was going to sue him, but Is it a?
Speaker 3:rich white guy thing. Do you think what you get at a certain level?
Speaker 2:I don't think we need to run race into it. What's wrong with?
Speaker 3:you, you know, that's just talking about Brett Favre didn't need to do that. Oh, I understand. My point is. It's like the. What did Chris Tucker say in rush hour films? It's the rich evil, rich white guy theory. Right, and the rich white guy and that's the villain.
Speaker 2:I'm not commenting.
Speaker 3:Very good, best to move on, will Lovis.
Speaker 2:What happened with this guy?
Speaker 5:Or touchdown.
Speaker 2:Remember that? Remember that hot chick that was hanging out with them at the draft and then shortly thereafter broke up with him. I think she's. She's trying to slide into his DM. She's calling back, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, hi Brittany.
Speaker 2:We'll love us. Four bangers looked good.
Speaker 5:Let's be honest, he's just throwing them up to DHOP and he's catching.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, he is, but you know he's got a good arm. That last one was not.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, you had three to DHOP with a hell of a game, by the way. Good for him. By the way, how long has Hopkins been playing now? I feel like it's 12, 13 years, is it less than that?
Speaker 3:That sounds about right Say it's got to be close.
Speaker 2:Yeah, make a little quick, but he looks. He looks the part. Will Lovis, it was a fun game. I'm sure Tennessee fans are probably, you know, enthused.
Speaker 5:Yeah, good for them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they got some to root for at least. Yeah, I think he's in a good situation there. They're a team that is is clearly always interested in trying to win. They try to be competitive. Vrabel is not a guy who's ever going to just fucking, you know, take a knee and ride it out for draft picks.
Speaker 5:So it's not the guy. So no, give him a shot, yeah.
Speaker 2:So anyway, that was a good one. I loved, by the way, the Oilers throwback uniforms. My God, they're good. What?
Speaker 5:a breath of fresh air.
Speaker 3:Those things were Yep. One of the college teams got a cease and desist letter from the NFL for doing their honor. They did a similar one, but DeAndre's 11 years, by the way.
Speaker 2:Okay, you imagine somebody from like Exxon or it's just at home watching the game and just fucking all happy as shit. Hell yeah. This suck on that tree hugger. Somebody from Marlboro is like we need to get those F1 cars back. That was my favorite thing about formula one, do you guys? I don't know you're young Jameson, but I used to watch formula one way back in the day when Marlboro had two Ferrari cars.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:And it was just Marlboro. All over the wing Basically just looked like a fucking cigarette on wheels. I love that.
Speaker 3:I was going to say it kind of looked like a pack of cigarette with a cigarette in it.
Speaker 2:It was everything that was great about the 80s, because you had the Marlboro and that would be followed by the Johnny Walker car and then the Miller light car and then the. Kfc mobile.
Speaker 1:It was just. It was the vice races.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I loved F1. It was so great. It was just babes and fucking men smoking cigarettes and drive around, probably drinking whiskey in the pit, I don't know, but you can't have that on the cars anymore. I miss those days. Were we dying of lung cancer? Yes, but I would argue we were happier. Was it worth it? Yeah, better. I'd rather go back in time and deal with that shit. Remember when you can smoke in Perkins. I do Hell of a good time. I used to light up a carton and a half on a Friday night. Remember that We'd go in there for to see how long we could stay for 15 bucks.
Speaker 3:We are one of the first night we hung out ever. We went out at the Perkins.
Speaker 2:Perkins brought us together smoking cigarettes at Perkins.
Speaker 3:It's a cute story. 1 AM it's cute.
Speaker 2:It's a 25 cent rail drinks set. What was that place after the gold rush? What was it?
Speaker 3:called Throwbacks and shoot. They have a hundred names. Dude, Cincinnati.
Speaker 2:Cincinnati back at. Oh Scotty, you had an epiphany. You're back now. Go ahead.
Speaker 3:No Cincinnati on the rise. On the rise.
Speaker 2:Joe Berle good. I think people are making a lot out of his performance, their performance against the San Francisco 49ers, but I would contend that the 49ers are not playing particularly 49 ball right now, more like the 39ers.
Speaker 3:It's been a bad month for them.
Speaker 5:It's not been good. Three in a row. They lost right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But he had three tuds Not a bad game. Mahomes did not look good, though. I think he had himself a little bit of a bacterial infection.
Speaker 5:Yeah, he's getting IVs before the game.
Speaker 3:Yeah, After last week when Bijan Robinson didn't feel good the night before and he didn't play much in the game and everyone lost their fucking mind. This week we heard about everyone feeling a little bit sick. Mahomes in particular was one of the bigger names.
Speaker 2:I've heard Straskin weaken your immune system and he's got to deal with that knuckleheaded brother of his and that wife who looks like, after watching the 10 minutes of the Netflix QB show that I was able to muster without vomiting, she seems like a real pistol. I think he thinks he could rethink that decision. I do.
Speaker 5:She's somehow friends with Taylor Swift, though. Oh, they're getting along good. Watch out.
Speaker 2:They're BFS now. No divorce now. Tay Tay probably got a high power to turn it, I would assume several. So anyway, which was interesting because you know we talk about Mahomes is kind of the gold standard in the NFL and I just want to bring this up Mahomes at this point in the season has 15 touchdowns with eight interceptions. Okay, it's not great. Russell Wilson, who I dump on, and this hurts me to say, 16 touchdowns and four interceptions.
Speaker 5:I haven't seen it all along. Okay, I need to knock it off.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to give you your due, but I don't need your rubber.
Speaker 5:Denver is a terrible team but in an open wound.
Speaker 2:Wilson's been good. So I wrote Sierra divorce prediction premature question where maybe we'll see Apparently. He rented out a waffle house. I would have done White Castle at Waffle House. I guess it's fine.
Speaker 3:It's still a weird fucking waffly little fucking sprite it is I can't.
Speaker 2:It is, by the way, Scott, if you want to have a good time, I know who you know who you're, what your personality is and what you can stomach and can't stomach. I dare you to watch the entire carpool karaoke with Russell Wilson and Sierra. I got through about two and a half minutes of it. It was. It was pretty bad.
Speaker 3:I think I listened to more of the Steven Segal reggae song.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's not bad, I don't know. At least make you chuckle.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2:it was funny. His ego, at least, is humorous. So Mahomes was battling illness, which again proves that man flu is a thing. If Mahomes can succumb to the common cold flu bacterial infection, I don't know what it is, web MD it. It is clear to me that that is justification for any of us not being able to get off the couch from from from any infection man flu, man flu, man flu.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think the chief's got some bullshit receiver to maybe trade it for, but nothing worth talking about. Yeah, aj Brown, ooh baby, he's crushing.
Speaker 2:You heard of this guy.
Speaker 5:I've heard of him, aj Brown.
Speaker 2:Six game stretch better than any Jerry Rice six game stretch throughout his entire career. He's the first in history to get 125 yards in six straight games. Is AJ Brown a shoe in for Cantner? Or well on his way.
Speaker 5:That's interesting. Like I hate when we compare to back then, though, because it's such a more of a passing league now that it's hard for any of those old people to have the stats that the new guys do these days, you know.
Speaker 3:I think we do take a lot of the sports writers, do take into account how the games were played and the series in which you know these kinds of points, and you think today's, today's sports journalist has that kind of nuance and context and perspective to be that objective?
Speaker 2:I mean you throw Troy.
Speaker 5:You throw Troy Ackman into what is today and he'd be middle of the league for quarterbacks, almost like his stashes don't add up to what they are these days, you know so it just that's true, got to put an asterisk on it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's it. And we also seem to celebrate these really weird records Like I never would have thought six game stretch. Let's talk about that, though. Interestingly enough, brett, I'm going to blow this one up. Brett Burchison, at B Breck on acts formerly known as Twitter, said with three 31 touchdown passes, oh, with the 30,. With the 31 yard touchdown pass, tua has now broken the franchise record for most passing yards in the first eight games of eight games of a season. This was sent to me by a friend of mine in Miami, bragging. My response that's a record in Miami the most passing yards to the first eight games. What do you get for that? And then I said remind me of the great Jack Elliott leading his team in eighth inning doubles in the month of August.
Speaker 5:Get a big pat on the back for that one yeah.
Speaker 2:This might be the ultimate reason that I hate AI and just stats, stats, stats is that people will pull the craziest shit out of their ass. It's like I can't remember what it is. It's a, the general theory, not relativity. But a physics will tell you that, like an elephant can hang off a cliff by holding on to a Danny lion, that somehow physics can prove that. We all know it to be bullshit.
Speaker 2:But they just pluck these stats out of their ass to make the and two is a very good quarterback, but if you're telling me at this point that you're putting them even near the, the, the rare air of Dan Marino, I can't listen to it. I just can't. And maybe AJ Brown, much like that we just talked about with the six game stretch. It's not fair to Jerry Rice, who's you know the pinnacle of of receivership, though I would argue that Randy Moss was a better receiver. But we do this. We look at things in a microcosm, but we don't see the forest, we see the trees, which is very much why Kirk cousins makes $40 million a year.
Speaker 4:One playoff victory, by the way, you fucking homer biking fan cocksuckers.
Speaker 2:So anyway, on his way to Canton, who knows Jaguar is playing very well? Five and two, six and two, now I believe six and two, and it's funny because it looks like statistically they're playing very average football, turnovers a little high, but they're still winning.
Speaker 5:They're not winning.
Speaker 3:Yeah, their defense is not bad, their special teams not bad. Their offense is churning out points. They're matriculating the ball down the field pretty slowly, steadily, but they're getting in there, etienne is having the best season of his life. I love that name.
Speaker 2:Etienne, thank you. He's French, isn't he? You'd have to be. Thank you, yeah, I think the best days are in front of them. I mean, they've got a lot of runway in a team that I think has its best days Not just in front of them but way over the horizon. They're a young team and they've got a quarterback that'll be there for the next 15, 16 years, if you can say it's healthy. All things looking up just in time for shot con to ask the public for $3 billion and build a new stadium. This is your time to strike shot.
Speaker 3:I suggested to David earlier that Josh Dobbs doesn't have alopecia. He actually has hair like Trevor Lawrence. He just shaves it because he would look too silly.
Speaker 5:It'd be great if he had a picture of this guy.
Speaker 2:I don't know what we'll show you If he had no hair on his head or his body, but just a huge bush. No, Ella, alopecia and his Pina. I want to talk. I think this one.
Speaker 2:I want everyone to weigh in on the controversy around the Hail Mary Bucks v Bills. So I've heard a couple of takes on this, but it goes something like this Throughout the game pass interference is bad, but when it's a Hail Mary, gouge his fucking eyeballs out. It's Thunderdome, it's no holds barred, it's Royal Rumble. There are no rules and I think that the people who think the bucks should have one. If you look at what's going on in the end zone and I've watched this, like the Zapruder pill, Zapruder film back into the left, back into the left, these bills players are just manhandling the box receivers in the end zone. So I'm just curious are there rules? And if there are, do we need to change the way that we govern or do we need to be a bit more totalitarian dictator on the shenanigans that are taking place in the end zone on a Hail Mary? I open this up for discussion.
Speaker 3:Well, a couple of weeks ago we were talking about you know, it was last week we were talking about Ursa wanted to have the penalties being reviewed, right, and then your opinion on that this is just slightly off from that, but the time it would take, and so on like that. But more simply, I would say I do agree it needs to be slightly more governed at the very least, because, like you said, it's fuck it whatever when it comes down to it, especially at the end of the game. You know, I just, I don't even know, maybe the refs are blinded by all the lights too.
Speaker 2:Well, there seems to be this attitude and it's not just the Hail Mary, but certainly it's like 96% of the game. Like the first 57 minutes it's by the book. But then the final three minutes let them play and you hear Chris Collins were just orgasm to this all the time, glad he didn't throw it. You gotta let him play, okay, why are we letting them play in the final three? Why are we letting them fucking? Like you know, I buy I, I gauging fucking kick to the nuts in the end zone on a Hail Mary. If 97% of the game is by the book, so what is the point?
Speaker 5:It's? It's gotta be consistent.
Speaker 2:It does right? I think it does, and so I think teams are going to have to figure out how to be disciplined in guarding against a Hail Mary, because right now they're getting away with fucking murder down there and I don't think it's good. It's not good for the game If we've, if both teams have, done a good, dumb job of moving the ball and stopping the ball and taking advantage of those opportunities and happens to be tied and we move to a scenario in which, you know, desperate times call for desperate measures. What I don't like is that it almost solely benefits the defensive team, the defensive side of the ball. Right, we need Hail Marys to be effective. I mean, these are, these are huge for the YouTube content, the tick. These are huge, momentous occasions in a game and we almost never see them because we're allowing the, the what was the name of the? The karate guys and big trouble in little China.
Speaker 3:The karate guys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the guys that served David Lopez was at the four of the three wins. The three wins, you know. Have you seen this movie?
Speaker 5:No idea what you're talking about. I hate talking about.
Speaker 2:Paul.
Speaker 3:Paxchia Paul.
Speaker 2:Paxchia, which makes me feel so old.
Speaker 3:Not the movie to try to explain either.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah. You got fucking the Raiden influence, the guy with the, the fucking back scratchers of doom, and then the, the boomerang knife that he threw into several skull. It's just. I just don't get it. So I don't know, james, what are your thoughts on this? You're a learned man, you're a patient man, you're a dispassionate man.
Speaker 5:No, I agree it's. It's gotta be consistent. It can't be a bloodbath for the very last play of the game. So I do think that they get away with way too much, and it does suck to see them benefit the defense so much. But I don't know how you change it. You know it's the same as like an onside kick, where you can't expect it to go that way every single time. So you know, does it work? 10% of the time? Yes, and that's what it should be. It shouldn't work more times than not, but you got to give them a fair chance at least.
Speaker 2:So I agree.
Speaker 5:That's my two cents.
Speaker 2:And I get that. You know what we don't want is a silly penalty to be the arbiter of a game, but we got to try to level that out a little bit. It just seems so imbalanced right now to one side. So any who? Yeah, I agree it. For me, hillemaries are like moving the outfield walls to 250 on the left, to 260 on the right. I mean, obviously you're at this point, you're just wanting the fucking hitter to hit home runs. You're influencing the quality of the game and the outcome of the game.
Speaker 3:I don't even know how you stop it, though, because once they're down there, I mean you can maybe call them on something on the way, but once they're all in the end zone it's almost like rugby. Then they're all just together.
Speaker 2:It is but the receiver must be given the opportunity to catch the ball, and they're not given it, doesn't matter. And either see they're all. As long as they're all going towards the ball, that's fine you know.
Speaker 5:But if you're going just for the player, that's different. And, by the way, if that's all happening, at the same.
Speaker 2:You know the ball's inbound and everyone's jumping on top of each other to try to get to it. Defense and offense are all receivers at that point, Correct. But if they're influencing, wrapping up, holding, fucking, chipping, knocking over now, you're taking the guys ability away at all To get to the ball. And my point is is that nobody, nobody on offense is going to sacrifice themselves to try to take out a defender from catching the ball, because it's the offense who needs to catch it. So it's completely benefiting the defense. Defense could display roller derby in there and keep the ball away. So it's. It's an imperfect system and I don't know if there is a perfect answer. I'm just saying that I think that at least should be talked about in the rules committee. Okay, In the opposite.
Speaker 3:That sounds good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, pardon me. Another eight game, another eight game record for the dolphins, now focusing on Tyree kill, who's been the direct beneficiary of two, a tech of violas, ripper of the season, now surpassing a thousand yards in this first eight games. Tyreek ever, the humble man I've been calling my shot since I came in this league. By the way, tyree kill recently, on a podcast, said that his post NFL career he wants to be a porn star.
Speaker 5:Really.
Speaker 2:That is a true story. I didn't just make that up. It seems real though it is. It absolutely is. He actually said it's why you call him Cheetah the funny. I think the NFL player who was interviewing really didn't know what to say. Like what do you? Say to that Good have fun.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's all you can Stock up on penicillin. Get your Steven Spielberg daughter. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the way that he keeps. I don't know, maybe only fan the wide out became the first player in NFL history to earn Finn Only finn, the greatest show. I'm not going to say it, scott, you go ahead. It is show I'd serve for the only fins it became the first player in NFL history to earn a thousand plus yards to the first eight games in a single season Per NFL research? Certainly not, scott, and I've researched because it wouldn't have been completed in time for the show. I don't have access.
Speaker 2:So good for you, tyreek, and good company through the first eight games. The closest ones that got there were Torrey Holt at 978, marvin Harrison and 962. Hill did it twice Sorry at 961 and 2022, wes Welker at 960. And so did Isaac Bruce. A lot of Rams players on the list. Great to show on turf. That was the right one. We like that one Kurt. Warner and his husband.
Speaker 3:St Louis up again.
Speaker 2:Thank you, scott hated Kurt Warner's wife.
Speaker 3:I didn't, I just thought her hair looked better.
Speaker 2:She looked like the Zool.
Speaker 3:She did have. Yeah, yeah, she looked like a gozer. Gozer was a Zool Zool. Yeah, because gozer was the destructor. Yeah, jameson's, like what?
Speaker 2:You see Ghostbusters.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, I had.
Speaker 3:Okay, one, once I had the lunch box.
Speaker 5:I don't remember it.
Speaker 2:But yeah, all right, we're going to talk about Viking stuff. Actually, should we get to the pick Scotty and we'll talk about Vikings when we get to him, that's.
Speaker 3:Sure, there are only a couple of games in.
Speaker 2:Just the tip. Just the tip I like that Makes me horny. Take it away, you've got.
Speaker 3:Thursday night special. Will Leviss tries to take down division rival Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh has the line three. I, however, I'm going to go with the young man Will Leviss, might just I don't think he's going to do four touchdowns again, but Cause Pittsburgh's defense. Pretty good, but I'm thinking Tennessee. What do you guys think? I think that you're a smart man.
Speaker 2:I think I'm going to take Tennessee as well. I'm not a believer in the Pittsburgh Steelers right now. Well, what makes?
Speaker 5:you not believe me.
Speaker 2:What makes you not believe?
Speaker 5:them rather inconsistent this year.
Speaker 2:Offensively they're not putting out a lot of points. Defensively they're just average. This is probably the worst team that Mike Tomlin has ever coached.
Speaker 3:Yeah, five years They've been kind of like this up and down.
Speaker 2:Yeah. They've been kind of like that for a long time They've been kind of like that for a long time.
Speaker 5:It's been a long time.
Speaker 3:They've been kind of like yeah, I'm going to believe you, I'm by all left, oh James is going to take it I'm going to. He sees the opportunity.
Speaker 2:Pittsburgh. Yep, he's going with the line. That's not bad. You know it's only a line of three If I keep losing. I'm going to fucking start doing lines.
Speaker 3:What's the point? I do want this will be a test for him right.
Speaker 2:A test for Will Leviss.
Speaker 3:It's. I apologize, it's not a division game, but for some reason I said that there's any chance that that hot little biscuit of an ex-girlfriend of sport and a Steelers Jersey in the crowd.
Speaker 2:Take that, will you fuck?
Speaker 3:He's got to pick a Jersey pick. It may or may not play, we'll see, who knows? That's another reason to I don't know what their offense is going to do.
Speaker 2:We're going to take the mighty Titans. I think they're going to be getting this one.
Speaker 3:You're going? Steelers, jameson, I am All right. Starting off the Germany games, miami shall visit Kansas City in Frankfurt together. Kansas City has a line two and a half, being the slight home team. This is one of our games of the week. This one was tough, casey. Obviously it's Casey, but they're not going to be able to score as many points. I don't think against Miami. Vice versa, I think Miami's going to take this one. What do you think, david?
Speaker 2:Is. Is Brittany Mahomes traveling with the team or is she staying at the state side?
Speaker 3:A chance to go to Germany, can only imagine.
Speaker 5:You know what Taylor is on the plane.
Speaker 2:She doesn't strike me as someone that is interested in culture. Well, she might just be performing a sold out. So I mean, I do have a wee child.
Speaker 3:So they do.
Speaker 2:We, um, yeah, well listen, frankfurt is like the unofficial home overseas for Kansas City. They have a huge fan base there, which is one of the reasons that they wanted to play that game.
Speaker 2:Oh God, I I wish I could come up with something really interesting about the turf quality overseas and that's going to slow, tidy, kill down, but I just all of it would just be bullshit. I'd just be pulling it out of my ass. Dude, he can run on water. He's so fast. He's been calling a shot ever since he got in the leagues.
Speaker 3:That quote. It also said God is great, I've been calling my shot since I came. God is great, I want to be a porn star after this.
Speaker 2:What a guy.
Speaker 3:He's going to Antonio.
Speaker 2:Just as whatever comes into his little brain fires it right out. Probably has a huge wiener too. What a man can run fast and he's fucking got a low hung rudder. I'm going to go Duck tapes with the Miami Dolphins. I think I have to. You can't go wrong with it, Either one you know right, You're going to take KC the ups and it's going to be a hell of a game, but I'm going to go with Miami as well. Okay.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 3:All right, and one of our now weekly shitter of the weeks. The Vikings are making appearance again. Minnesota at Atlanta. Atlanta is a higher line four and a half, since they've already got a quarterback. They're going to start with that. They've seen before Taylor Honeky. Yeah, ritter's out.
Speaker 5:That's surprising.
Speaker 3:Mm, hmm, sit on the bench bitch. Yeah, minnesota is going with Jaren Hall.
Speaker 2:As they should for the rest of the season, by the way. Okay, let's get to the analysis of this game first, then we'll get into the Vikings meet.
Speaker 3:I'm old. This kid was born the year I graduated.
Speaker 2:I'm going to take the Vikings. I believe the Jaren Hall is going to have a decent outing. I'm feeling in my bones 250 to 275 and two touchdowns at least one on the ground. The defense is going to hold the Falcons. The defense is playing well. I'll give Brian Flore as that he's been doing a good job 250 to 275. 250 to 275, two touchdowns.
Speaker 5:That's a really good game for him.
Speaker 2:It's a very good game and I think he's going to get it. He's got the snaps all week. I've heard in red from some of the Vikings insider stuff that he's basically consuming film at an incredible rate. He's there early, he's there late, he's learning the defense, he's learning how to scout it all out. He's spending time with Connolly to get his head put on straight and he's taken all the first team snaps. The thing that scares me is the ball security bit, right Making sure he's not throwing.
Speaker 2:Which could have just been nerves. You know, hopped up and coming in, we all get it, you get clammy hands, but I think the Vikings are going to pull this one out. I like. Jaren.
Speaker 3:Hall.
Speaker 2:I think he's a better quarterback than Kirk Cousins already.
Speaker 3:You want to hear a little bit about Jaren Hall.
Speaker 2:Let's let Jameson get his picket. Let's dive into that.
Speaker 5:I do not believe in Jaren Hall and I am going to go with the Atlanta Falcons. I think they're going to be the superior team in all aspects this week.
Speaker 2:That's picking with your brain. I'm picking with my heart. I want to believe Scott, who did you take, I took the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 3:Fuck you both.
Speaker 2:I'm going up one on this one, then I'm going to rub it in your face, jaren Hall, I'm going to get the jersey. Tell me about, tell us about our new starting quarterback, jaren Hall.
Speaker 3:Born in March 1998. Jesus.
Speaker 2:Christ. He was born in 98.
Speaker 3:Yep March 24th.
Speaker 2:I was 20 years old.
Speaker 5:Don't date yourself.
Speaker 3:Whoa. He attended attended Maple Mountain High School in Spanish Fork, utah. During his career there he had 5109 passing yards and 52 touchdowns. He committed to BYU, brigham Young University.
Speaker 2:Is he a Mormon?
Speaker 3:Apparently.
Speaker 2:Hall played two games.
Speaker 3:I don't know that yet. I didn't check that, I just saw. Anyway, he played in two games his first year at BYU in 2018 and took a red shirt, played in seven games and made two starts as a backup to Zach Wilson. He became the first black quarterback to start a game for BYU when he started in place of Wilson against South Florida Nice. For the season he completed 31 to 46 for 420 yards, with one touchdown. After taking a medical red shirt in 2020, he all took over as a starter in 21. He completed 189 of 296 passes for 2,583 yards, 20 touchdowns and only five interceptions. He also played baseball for BYU's baseball team in 1920. Interesting this kid. This kid's Deon Sanders. He's an athlete.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's a gamer, he's also a smart, by the way. You know who else went to Brigham Young Steve Young. Steve Young, who was a direct descendant, I think, the great, great great grandson of Brigham Young, Super Mormon Prophet Joe Smith, brigham Young, lineage down to Steve Young, tastic connection to Jaren Hall. I'm going to revise, I'm going to go 275 to 303 touchdowns for Jaren Hall this Sunday. I think the power of the Prophet Joe Smith is going to be with him.
Speaker 5:I really want to bet against that.
Speaker 2:None of my brain was involved in that analysis that is purely from the heart 275 to 3, 3 touchdowns.
Speaker 3:He just went up.
Speaker 2:If I make it 50 bucks from each of you.
Speaker 3:I'm not taking that.
Speaker 2:Because it's so absurd it couldn't happen. I don't think there's any risk in taking that bet 50 bucks.
Speaker 3:You know what you said. Except, I have to pay nothing.
Speaker 2:All I can do is make money on this deal.
Speaker 5:I will take that bet. I will take that bet.
Speaker 2:I will take payment in ribs next year by the way, I'll take rib money.
Speaker 3:It's got to go 50 bucks from Jameson.
Speaker 2:By the way, I will take a caveat because I am not a poor better. If he has zero touchdowns, I will give you another $10.
Speaker 5:OK good.
Speaker 3:So a bonus of so 60 if he throws zero touchdowns. Love that what.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, he's not listening. The other way is the one way street. You know that I make convoluted play to spaghetti bets that make no sense. This is how I feel justified, like I'm a genius a criminal genius when it comes to betting, but I'm the one who keeps paying out week over week.
Speaker 3:All right. So you say three touchdowns or more. What's the bet?
Speaker 2:If he gets three or more, Jameson will give me 50 bucks. If he throws zero touchdowns, I will give Jameson $20. I'm changing the nature of the bet because I'm a fair man. Sounds good All right. Zero touchdowns 20 bucks to Jameson. If he throws one touchdown, it's $100 to me. We got that established.
Speaker 3:Thank you. All that you said right before that Got it.
Speaker 5:Perfect, correct.
Speaker 2:Oondubar. All right, so let's talk about the Minnesota Vikings. I had put together a board shortly before the trade for Alopecia. What's his name? Dobbs, josh Dobbs, ad. And it went something like this I had David Mills, case Keenum, ryan Tannehill, trey Lance, james Winston, blaine Gabbard, marcus Mariota, teddy Bridgewater, and then the three that I think would have been the most interesting Jacoby Brissette, carson Wentz or Mike White, because we all know how I feel about Mike White.
Speaker 5:That makes sense.
Speaker 2:Would have been good. That probably would have let him write their first Super Bowl victory Almost guaranteed. I would have fucking taken out a second mortgage at my home. Let it ride.
Speaker 3:Four TDs to JJ. It's the first game back. Who's that? Mike White throws four touchdowns to just a Jeff, is he?
Speaker 2:back? Is Jefferson back this week?
Speaker 3:No, no reason for him to be back by the way, Addison's a very good player, Well can we all be clear on that?
Speaker 2:He's still Damn good. Let's get both of them back out there and let Jaren Hall, if I could, have a field day, all right. So here's the deal. So they took none of them, they went out and they got Josh Dobbs. I'm going to pull up Josh Dobbs stat line because this is exactly the kind of player that the Minnesota Vikings would select. He was selected in the 2017 drafts, so his first season was 2018. Played for the Steelers for the first two Titans in 2022. Traded to the Cardinals in 2023. So in his career, he's been to four teams in five years, which doesn't speak a whole lot about his skill level or capability. His career stats in those five years are a whopping 2,000 yards, 10 touchdowns, eight interceptions, with an average QB rating of 77.6. This is about as average of a quarterback as you're going to get. And yet, on pro football talk, who's that doofus that runs that site? Again, the attorney, who I can't stand. This is names guy.
Speaker 3:The attorney.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the guy who runs pro football talk. He's always on NBC, always talking with Chris Sims.
Speaker 3:I don't know who you're talking about.
Speaker 2:Damn. Their entire site's broken. I can't even navigate to it. Stress me nuts. What happened here?
Speaker 2:Fucking tech problems, david, this is crazy, anyway, saying that the headline went something like this Josh Dobbs keeps the Vikings at the fringes of a post or a playoff run. Listen to that again Keeps them on the fringes of a playoff run. I mean, there's like her cousin. There's just nothing declarative in that headline. It is the most loosey, goosey, hoarse headline I have ever read. I should be ashamed of himself. Josh Dobbs is a backup quarterback. I demand that Jarron Hall lead this team for the rest of the season. What say you?
Speaker 5:Fuck it. Josh Dobbs has had a couple good games this year, though. Against Dallas, who has a good defense, he had a rating of 120, which is pretty good, and then the following week after that, against the Niners, he had 102 rating. So he is a capable quarterback, but it's just inconsistent, I think, because the thing At the very least he's also not terribly practiced in it.
Speaker 3:I mean he hasn't done a whole lot of starting games.
Speaker 5:Well, he's five years in, though, like you can't give him that anymore.
Speaker 3:No, I'm just saying he's almost a rookie in the sense of how you know game script. He's no different than Jarron in that regard, because he hasn't really started many games other than this season.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but five more years of just learning how to play in the NFL goes a long ways, even as a backup.
Speaker 2:So, I'm going to go in the way, way back machine 1031 Mike White against the Cincinnati Bengals had 405 yards and three touchdowns. How good a quarterback is Mike White.
Speaker 5:He's mediocre.
Speaker 2:Is a backup to that. He's mediocre. Mediocre Mike White. Nice, yeah, listen, you know Josh Dobbs is going to play well enough to keep us on the fringes of a postseason run. Not really. Jarron Hall is probably going to be. I think if he can play well Certainly puts us in a position where we don't have to spring a whole lot of money for Kurt Cousins and his very old Achilles heel Tendon. Whatever he blew out, I would like to see what we can get out of him the rest of the season.
Speaker 3:Don't let the homers hear you talking up Jarron Hall so much Earlier you mentioned you likened him to a young TV.
Speaker 2:I said, there are elements of Tom Brady in the way that he talks about studying game film, constantly pursuing getting better. He's a very level headed guy. Not a lot of hyperbole, he's a grinder. I dig that.
Speaker 3:He's got the hoods and you remember what happened in New England when Bledsoe went down. I mean, this is Hall's year.
Speaker 2:This could be it. He's a late season or a late round pick. This could be the guy Brigham Young, who does develop some decent quarterbacks. They do wear magic underwear there. Koc's the new Belichick. It could happen. Also heard rumors that New England might be getting rid of Bill Belichick and trading him off for a couple of draft picks as well.
Speaker 3:Why would you? I mean, they extended his contract and shit, but that don't mean that doesn't mean that Nope, just ask. Ask Josh McDonies.
Speaker 5:Yeah, thank God so.
Speaker 2:I'd like to talk about Kirk Cousins and then I'm going to not talk about him for the rest of the season. As far as I'm concerned, this was the ultimate Cousins play. I called it. One final fuck from Kirk Cousins. At his highest trade value, he blows his fucking Achilles out, loses all of his trade value altogether, and now he's stuck on this team like in Alabama tick. Ok, Now we got to pay for his medical bills. He has no trade value whatsoever. And not to command it again.
Speaker 2:Correct, and all I'm going to hear about is this is Kirk's team. Kirk was playing so well, just dang it. One more thing that wasn't his fault. That went wrong. It just stopped him from getting that trophy. It has been so elusive with his one playoff victory. It's the first major injury in a non-contact play, so this is the first time he's going to miss substantial time. Of course it was not being touched at all. All I heard you included, james I'm going to call you out Matt Naska, especially fan of this program how tough Kirk Cousins was in the QB show. By the way, all of that, kirk Cousins had the first right of refusal. He had full edit privileges. Nothing was shown in that show that he didn't want people to see. All I heard was how tough Kirk Cousins was. Oh, he gets knocked down, he gets back up. He's so tough he jotted 15 yards and blew his entire Achilles out. Ok, not that tough. I think we've now removed that air of Godlike superiority from Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 5:I don't think tearing your Achilles is anything to do with toughness.
Speaker 3:I hate to disagree with David on such a funny thing, but yeah, james Aaron Rogers did the same thing a few weeks ago. Is he not so tough?
Speaker 2:First strip. It forces the Minnesota Vikings to make tough decisions quickly. Mm-hmm, the Minnesota Vikings front office has not made a tough decision quickly in 55 years.
Speaker 3:What about Cam Acres? I mean, we got him in here pretty quick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we don't even let him run the ball anymore. Where has Cam Acres been? Last game he was hardly out there.
Speaker 5:Madison's still out there. Right Acres is clearly the better running bag.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what is he playing? Special teams at this point, cam Acres, what is he doing? Is he? Fucking.
Speaker 3:He had to get another quarterback.
Speaker 2:Is he massaging Kirk Cousins Achilles heel with some fucking buttermilk? And then I heard a quote, one of my favorite things I've heard, and I can't remember who it was, though I'd love to quote the most loved player in football. Someone described Kirk Cousins no, the most loved player in football. If that doesn't tell you why I'm not fighting the good fight against this fucking guy, I'm convinced at this point that he may be the anti-Christ.
Speaker 2:He's just convincing, yeah it's not happening on my watch. So Kirk Cousins, a fucking organ grinder monkey, was clapping on his little fucking golf cart on the sideline and that's just endeared him to generations of NFL fans who love a good man who can win nothing. And I say this summed up Kirk Cousins a good guy who is never going to win anything. The greatest trick Kirk Cousins ever pulled is being the only player not judged by what he won at all because he won nothing.
Speaker 2:And here he is apparently one of the best quarterbacks of all time. Kirk Cousins, what's?
Speaker 3:that Scotty Nothing.
Speaker 2:Kirk Cousins the living manifestation of white privilege. I thought it was baloney and I'm convinced it's a real thing. I want you to be healthy, I want you to be happy, I want you to be whole and I need you away from this team forever. You're the cancer that's rotting us from the inside. Thank you, scott.
Speaker 3:I gotta stop trying to take a sip of my soda when you're bitchin and ranted about Kirk Cousins. One playoff victory His entire career.
Speaker 2:One, one, one one. He finally won on Monday night football.
Speaker 5:I know and listen my four games there now and I think that the lousiest thing about that is the simp Minnesota.
Speaker 2:Vikings fans who were convinced that once he did that he broke the Bambino curse and we were on a fucking direct shot right to the goddamn Super Bowl. Scottie Kirk can throw some money, can buy in his way.
Speaker 3:Help him get his wife over. That's the thing I really want to talk about.
Speaker 2:Poor can buy in him you got married in the Philippines, thinking that he could get her over here and he hasn't been able to. She's still. She's still in the Philippines Beautiful area I mean military bases. A lot of Americans over there. Philippines is absolutely stunning, but he can't get his wife over here. So maybe Kirk Cousins, with all his free time and all his extra money Everybody likes him so much Put that to good use. You're such an influencer, kirk Put your little fucking electrodes on. Maybe study the constitution and the history of the country. Maybe study the constitution and immigration law and figure out a way to get this four women from the Philippines over here.
Speaker 2:Kirk, by the way he had a successful Achilles surgery and we are thankful for that. Thank you to the surgeons. Enjoy, lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Speaker 5:Yeah, well, you can pay for the best.
Speaker 2:That's right. Yeah, Listen, it's a. It's a shit front office who makes shit decisions. And now we've got Joshua Dobbs backing up a Jaren Hall and all we can hope for is that for once the Minnesota Vikings have drafted goal at quarterback. Just once didn't even mean to Scottie. Can we get it once?
Speaker 3:He'd be singing a different tune about men's, and then Greatest for listen right now, if Jaren Hall gets us to the playoffs.
Speaker 2:coming off the bench Quasi Adolfo Menta is the greatest front office executive of all time. Are you hearing me, Scott?
Speaker 3:He will see lifetime contract. Future quote.
Speaker 2:Listen, I know I'm hard to please. I'm a son of a bitch, I get it, but I've watched this team lose, for I wasn't born in 98. I was born in 78. I got 20 extra years to watch this team, but fuck itself. One season after the next member, dante call pepper, he looks like a but fucker. Remember the love boat? Remember Bryant McKinney, randy Moss, mowing down parking attendance downtown Minneapolis and then shitting all over the what's that place over in Newport that we like so much? Scotty, with the chicken where you fucking pile, drove into my shoulder and fucked me up.
Speaker 3:Oh, tanooches, tanooches.
Speaker 2:Randy Moss shit all over. Papa Tanooches food right in front of his face. I wouldn't feed this to my dog. Super Bowl homeboy.
Speaker 3:It was catered, though it probably wasn't good.
Speaker 2:Adrian Peterson beating his kid with a stick, paying for his own fucking parade in Palestine, brad Childress, it's been a lot to deal with and all I'm saying if we could just once have a quarterback that we could all look to and go, god damn, there might be something there. It's a little promise, just just a glimmer of hope.
Speaker 3:Back to the picks. The teams off this week are Denver, detroit, san Francisco and Jacksonville. However, we will be picking Arizona at Green Excuse me, not Green Bay, cleveland. Arizona at Cleveland. Cleveland has the line seven and a half. I've gone with the Browns. Not a ton to talk about, except Arizona might have Kyla Murray back, but even if he is whatever, I'm going Green Bay. You have to pick them on the next game. I'm sorry, I love it. I was reading the next line and I'm like, as I was talking about, god damn it.
Speaker 3:I hate when I do that.
Speaker 5:So who would be their quarterback, since Dobbs is gone and Murray may or may not play?
Speaker 3:Who else is there?
Speaker 2:Clef Kingsbury.
Speaker 3:He's going to get out there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, clipboard. What's his name? Cliff Kingsbury, or is it Kings Clifbury?
Speaker 5:He's going to do the longest yard bit, and did he play quarterback? Cliff Clifbury.
Speaker 2:What's his name? He's the one that ruined Johnny football. Basically said Johnny, if you keep winning, you can keep drinking, doing drugs and banging under a cliff.
Speaker 3:Who am I?
Speaker 2:to tell you how to live your life. John Mansell, you're Johnny football. For fuck's sake, the winning games. I'm here to win.
Speaker 3:I yeah, fuck that guy. I was thinking of the backup's name and I was like it reminds me of a song. It's a musical thing, but it's Clayton Tune.
Speaker 2:Back that ass up. Clayton Tune Clayton Tune. James, if you could be so kind as do a quick I mean we already got the music playing. You might as well just do some quick research on Clayton Tune.
Speaker 3:He has virtually no information.
Speaker 2:There's not a comical bad guy from some shitty Western from the seventies, clayton Tune. Tell me about him. Did you go to bring him young as well? He went to Houston.
Speaker 3:Houston selected in the fifth round.
Speaker 2:Oh, Scotty's beat you to it.
Speaker 3:Started 42 games during his final four collegiate seasons, totaling 11,201 passing yards, 96 passing TDs and 39.
Speaker 2:Whoa at Houston.
Speaker 3:And also adding 1197 yards and 14 touchdowns with his legs.
Speaker 2:Question why don't we trade for that guy?
Speaker 3:He looks like he fits into the Kyler Murray style of football.
Speaker 2:Well we'll see. Anyway, cliff Cliff Kingsbury, whoever's got out there, who's playing again Arizona guns, who?
Speaker 3:Arizona at Cleveland. I'll take Cleveland, let's not fool ourselves.
Speaker 2:Arizona is not winning this game, cleveland yeah.
Speaker 3:Right on Next up, Green Bay will be hosting the LA Rams. Green Bay's got the line at home by three. I've gone with the Packers. This is kind of one of those games where I probably wouldn't have picked them, but LA's, I don't think Saffron's going to play. Fuck this finger up. So ripin might play some. Mark Reipin, green Bay Can't remember this actually. Yeah, hold on.
Speaker 2:James, you threw your phone down and discuss everything. All right, the Packers have the line. Yeah, they do. That's what I say.
Speaker 5:LA's not playing well. Are you listening to his? Anybody watched the Packers play in the last?
Speaker 2:not great.
Speaker 5:I don't know anyone can give the Packers a line right now, and I'm a Green Bay fan.
Speaker 3:I'll be. I'll be honest. I saw that earlier. I checked all kinds of different lines this week. There's a couple that are out there too.
Speaker 2:If Brett Favre came back this weekend, they signed it for one game deal. You think you can throw at least a touchdown or two. I bet you could, absolutely.
Speaker 5:I've seen him throw, but lately he's still got a rocket for an arm.
Speaker 2:Sure yeah, gunsling out there.
Speaker 5:Yeah, he'd give him a better chance than Jordan Lovewood, wouldn't?
Speaker 2:it be great if he came back and the only contingency was only I want a million bucks for the game and I just want to pass around an offering played for a new volleyball venue.
Speaker 3:Brett Reipin.
Speaker 2:I'm going to take Brett Reipin, I'm going to take Green Bay Packers, and this one, I don't trust the Rams.
Speaker 5:You don't.
Speaker 2:I don't Not this game. They let me down. Last one that's how I pick.
Speaker 5:I mean, their hands aren't a good team either.
Speaker 2:No, it's too. It's too bad teams. But it is Lambo right, it's going to be chilly and the Rams are used to playing in that the easy confines of Sofi Stadium in beautiful and scenic Los Angeles, california. I'm going to take the Packers to play a tough one at home and pull it out.
Speaker 5:You know, if the Packers could have scored on either of those last drives? They could have, they should have. They just they're fucked. They don't ever score Right. They can do it in the red zone. Who's in the?
Speaker 2:last five with the Rams. You are going to take the Rams. I'm digging the Rams. Who's the number one receiver there in the in Green Bay?
Speaker 5:They don't have a true number one. It's Watson or Dott, by the way, adams is not happy in Vegas at all. Yeah, he's pissed yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he might be coming back. I hope so.
Speaker 5:Just get him the ball.
Speaker 2:Get in the ball.
Speaker 3:All right, this is an interesting line. On this one, new England Patriots have the line at home somehow three and a half against the Washington commanders. That's insane. It's very insane. I checked in at a couple of different sites. Jameson, feel free to check that for me right now because I hope I was being punked. But anyway, I've gone with the commanders on this one. I'm not exactly sure why, other than New England just sucks and I can't trust them for anything.
Speaker 2:Commanders have been playing tough. They're not a bad team. They are. They're doing some interesting things. I'm going to take the the commanders here. I don't think that the Patriots are going to win. I'm going to go with Washington here.
Speaker 5:Yeah, no, scott, you're, you're almost right, it's a line of three, so not three and a half anymore, apparently, but I guess it went down in the last three, four hours.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's out, he's fired.
Speaker 3:He's fired.
Speaker 2:Don't fuck with my points. Brett Scott, you know, I factored that into my picks.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I don't trust the Patriots either, so I'm going to go with the the commanders. All right.
Speaker 3:We have Chicago at New Orleans.
Speaker 2:New Orleans.
Speaker 3:New Orleans has a line seven and a half. I've gone with them as well, you guys Same.
Speaker 2:There's. There's no way, jameson. What are you contemplating?
Speaker 5:I don't like the Saints either.
Speaker 2:Right, but they are a football team with players, okay, and coaches.
Speaker 5:I'm going to go to the Saints.
Speaker 3:This might be kind of a fun game. Seattle at Baltimore. Baltimore has a smaller line that I would have expected, but five and a half at home. I've gone with the Ravens at home. I think, um, yeah, they're just too much of a wild card all over the over the field.
Speaker 2:Oh, this is. It needs a heavy layer of analysis. It's going to be the Ravens Jackson's playing out of his gourd.
Speaker 5:Yeah, he should be in the MVP race yeah. He'll do enough to meet the Seahawks.
Speaker 2:Geno can't cut it, we're unanimous, we're going to Ravens.
Speaker 5:Oh is that a Seahawks or a Raven?
Speaker 2:Should we pick a morbid side bed? How many people in the Baltimore area will be shot? The day of that game, at least 10. Yeah, I'm going to say over under on 10,.
Speaker 3:You're taking the over? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:I'll take the over on that. Where you at.
Speaker 3:I'll take the under it's football day for 50 bucks stabs, it'll be stabbings.
Speaker 2:If there's five stabbings, I'll give you a multiplier, I'll give you 20 bucks.
Speaker 3:What could happen in Houston too. Two and a half to the Texans visiting. Have the Tampa Bay Buccaneers visiting? I've gone with the Texans at home. Baker Mayfield makes it look really difficult to play quarterback.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that being said, I'm going to take the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 5:Just a spite. They're a team with a winning record.
Speaker 2:They're not rolling over for anybody, they're three and four. They play well, I'm taking. Listen, I'll take whoever you want.
Speaker 3:I'm taking Houston. I was laughing at the timing of Jameson's reminder of what this record was.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, I'm going to write something down here Talk to this guy the two of you no, no, no, no. This involves you, Scott, don't worry.
Speaker 5:Push the button Insurable herpes.
Speaker 2:Curse.
Speaker 3:I just laughed at the timing. Funny is funny.
Speaker 2:Curable herpes. Sorry, scott, you got an incurable herpes curse.
Speaker 3:Aren't they all incurable on Scott.
Speaker 2:Witchcraft and Jameson.
Speaker 3:Nothing is fucking. Hockham Fresh off their first winter this season. Carolina hosting Indianapolis. The Colts have the line at three. Josh Downs is looking really good. I've gone with the Colts on the road. What do you guys think?
Speaker 2:Colts.
Speaker 5:Colts all the way.
Speaker 3:All right. Another shitter of the week the New York Giants.
Speaker 2:Thank you very much.
Speaker 3:Sorry, new York Giants visiting the interim. We had coached Vegas. I've gone with the Raiders. I think they're going to play hard because they hate McDaniels, so they're happy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that somewhere, Chuckie Mr Gruden is laughing his ass off at the miseries that have befallen the Las Vegas Raiders. I'm still going to take Las Vegas.
Speaker 5:Who's the quarterback for the Giants Tiger got hurt last week, yeah, but Jones is going to come back, they said he is horrible.
Speaker 3:Which is worse? Which is good for the Vegas?
Speaker 2:Tyron Taylor is a better quarterback than Jones.
Speaker 5:And Garoppolo is being benched now too.
Speaker 3:So that's even better. No, connell is going to start. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to go with Las.
Speaker 5:Vegas too, for sure.
Speaker 2:Do you think Davis reconsiders and gets screwed back by next season?
Speaker 5:It would be smart too.
Speaker 3:Nobody cares about the emails. It certainly didn't, for Hillary Clinton All right Igniter, all right we got another game of the week, probably the biggest Dallas visiting division rival for real. This time Philadelphia has the line at home. I've gone with the Eagles and I just go with the home team on this one. This feels like Phillies rockin' hard, but I don't. I don't know. It should be a good game. What do you think, guys? I don't know what you just said, but I'm going to go with the.
Speaker 2:Philadelphia Eagles, because I think that, again, cold conditions, natural turf this is a departure from what the Dallas Cowboys are used to, which is a fast artificial substrate. Dak Prescott is not a great quarterback. He's not elite in Philadelphia. He's just playing well enough to win. Aj Brown is on a tear. Hertz is very good. That offensive line is squat. Defense is okay. I don't know what you just said, but I'm going to go with the defensive line. I'm going to go with the defensive line.
Speaker 5:I'm going to take the Eagles here. I'm looking forward to this one. It's going to be a good game either way. They hate each other, naturally.
Speaker 2:anyway, there's a nice rivalry between these two teams.
Speaker 3:There might be more arrests at this game than the one we were talking about in Baltimore.
Speaker 5:Yeah, Philadelphia is known for that shit.
Speaker 3:They have a courtroom in the stadium. If they don't, they should you know, so 30,000 people don't have to fucking you do you do get that shit fast.
Speaker 2:Let fucking Barry get back to the game. Did he kill him? Let him be my side.
Speaker 5:Can't prove it, I'm going to go with the Eagles as well.
Speaker 3:Solid, all right. Finally, another big game on Sunday night Buffalo visiting Cincinnati. Cincinnati has a line at home. I'm going with the Bengals. I'm loving both of these teams right now. Both of the offenses are flying. I love them for fantasy. I love them for watching and playing other good teams. Joe Burrow is kicking it back up. Chase is on a fucking tear as well. I don't think is Boyd no, it's Higgins that's going to be out still. But Joe Mixon is looking like a fucking running back again and he wants the ball all to himself and they don't really put just good things. They don't have a whole lot else going on in the running back situation. What do you guys think I'm going to take the bills.
Speaker 5:I'm going bills to shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, right on, go guys, Go like that to on both of you. Hope you lose. Now in shoulder hurts. Monday night football the LA Chargers have the line three visiting the New York Jets. Unstoppable force, immovable object. I don't know. Chargers just aren't so good right now and I just like the Jets D. I think they're going to pull it out of the way and I'm going with the upset. The Jets.
Speaker 2:Hmm, I will take the Jets as well.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I'm going to go to the Jets too. We're all fucking nuts.
Speaker 3:I've picked 32 as my total. They've been smoling it over. What do you think, Jameson?
Speaker 5:I want to go 31, but that's a really bad spot to pick.
Speaker 3:I feel like so, I'm going to go to one Twenty nine.
Speaker 5:I'm actually going to go 28. I'm going to go even lower, yeah.
Speaker 2:Scotty, what are you at 32.
Speaker 3:Thirty for you.
Speaker 2:No, I'm going to take, I'm going to take 20.
Speaker 5:20.
Speaker 2:Closest without going over right.
Speaker 5:What a terrible Monday night.
Speaker 2:Closest without going over right. Five oh one Bob. So if they score anything, what do you have? Twenty eight so if they score anything less than 28, I win.
Speaker 5:Yeah, did the press's right style, yeah, yeah but, you'd have to.
Speaker 3:Here's, here's, here's a.
Speaker 2:Here's a fun one, I'm taking four, I'm taking four points. Got to spread down four Closest without going over. You fucked me with it two weeks ago. I'm fucking you with it this week, baby.
Speaker 3:You act as though we all haven't been fucked by this standard rule of tie breaking.
Speaker 2:I am not interested. If you got fucked, it's my butthole that I'm interested in.
Speaker 3:I'm leaving it at 20. Thank you, you, son of a bitch.
Speaker 2:I'm taking one point Gamesmanship.
Speaker 3:That was your Monday night special. Thing.
Speaker 2:Monday night special. Yeah, yeah I can start jerking you off. It doesn't finish.
Speaker 3:I wonder if Zach Wilson knows Jaren Hall. I mean he would have to have if they played together.
Speaker 2:Probably try to sleep with his mom.
Speaker 3:He knows him way too well. He's a good motherfucker.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Real quick. How did everybody's Halloween go? James said this is your first with the with the brood. I heard he was dressed up like a T gray tiger. That's right. How'd it go?
Speaker 5:Really good. Yeah, he had a good night.
Speaker 2:Good.
Speaker 5:Got to see some grandparents.
Speaker 2:You know, the Snickers bar or anything? No Right, oh Scott, what'd you do? What did I do?
Speaker 3:I prepped for the show. Obviously, I got drunk and ate some candy.
Speaker 2:I went out and this is the first year that I said I'm not walking too cold, so I stayed in the truck, put the massages on while they you know brave the elements. We then swung by a good old St Nick, minnesota. It stopped at the Lutkins bar where they were doing some trick or treating for the kids. It was offered a beer by the proprietor of the establishment. It was nearly poured. I was making myself my way into my seat to enjoy a frosty beverage. I was informed by my wife that it was time to leave, because Halloween is not about us, it's about the children. So I didn't get to have my beer party pooper.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2:I'm rethinking this entire lifelong commitment to her over one beer.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's not the beer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's the attitude.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's you know, she only shot me once right, it's only one, you know little hill, it's like yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, anyway, gentlemen, I enjoyed doing this with you. Scotty, we of course we're able to push our recording time late tonight because you are on single dad duty while your wife is in Colorado searching for a new husband. So we thank you for being here.
Speaker 3:She didn't wax, so I'm feeling very secure. Okay, did you check Of? Course.
Speaker 2:Let me get a peek before you go. All right, get on the plate. Of course that could be done anywhere between here the airport Could have happened. I think the new waxing at the airport now, scotty, has your mood. Get that son of a bitch off the field.
Speaker 2:All right boys. Thank you for doing this, scotty. Oh, by the way, one thing I want to let everybody know our podcast hosting platform is now turned on AI, so I'm going to upload this now using their AI assistant. What it does? It generates all the chapters, the description of the show, creates a blog post and social media posts all from the AI. I have not used this yet, so I'm going to upload it and see what kind of quality we're dealing with Nice.
Speaker 4:I just want to let you know that this will be interesting.
Speaker 2:Yep, gentlemen, it was a pleasure you too.
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